UKMT September 2019 - A Fish-Abandoning Government

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Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Pochoclo posted:

�you great big girl�s blouse� has to be the shittiest possible posh toff oxbridge oval office insult you could ever possibly come up with, and of course it�s also sexist on top of it all

It went down a storm in the quad when the Earl of Quisling used it. How we all laughed.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:43

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# ? May 24, 2024 02:12

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

Unkempt posted:

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:46

Cast_No_Shadow: Jun 8, 2010; The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

There's no mandate for remain (untested)

There's no mandate for no deal (3 votes)

So what about the deal that was voted down so loving hard. Maybe there's a mandate for Bringing The house together argle bargle

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:47

Cast_No_Shadow: Jun 8, 2010; The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Apparently something being readily available and on the shelf is more important than your quality of life folks.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:50

spiderbot: Oct 21, 2012

Just got an email from Jennie Formby saying "With Boris Johnson's disastrous government now without a mandate and a majority, we are very likely to find ourselves with a General Election over the next few weeks." So maybe labour are planning to push for an election now?

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:56

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

spiderbot posted:

Just got an email from Jennie Formby saying "With Boris Johnson's disastrous government now without a mandate and a majority, we are very likely to find ourselves with a General Election over the next few weeks." So maybe labour are planning to push for an election now?

not until No Deal has been well and truly pushed off the table

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:57

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

spiderbot posted:

Just got an email from Jennie Formby saying "With Boris Johnson's disastrous government now without a mandate and a majority, we are very likely to find ourselves with a General Election over the next few weeks." So maybe labour are planning to push for an election now?

yeah, but not as soon as the tories are wanting. It's happening, but it'll be after the extension is sorted, so look forward to a November election (happy birthday to me)

# ? Sep 4, 2019 18:57

Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

Bacon Terrorist posted:

The big deal about the whip being withdrawn is you are out of the party and essentially going to lose your seat at the next election when your former party runs a new candidate against you (because people vote for parties not candidates).

To clarify, technically people vote for candidates not parties, but in almost all cases voters care more about party affiliation than anything else about the candidates.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:00

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

not until No Deal has been well and truly pushed off the table

Yeah Boris would love to have an election right now, even if it means the death of the Tories, because he would be guaranteed a hard brexit like he wants.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:01

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
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spiderbot posted:

Just got an email from Jennie Formby saying "With Boris Johnson's disastrous government now without a mandate and a majority, we are very likely to find ourselves with a General Election over the next few weeks." So maybe labour are planning to push for an election now?

If the bill passes then bojo is required to ask for and accept an extension, but if there's an election before he actually does it then there's a chance he could win with a majority/coalition and overturn that legislation. (Plus he'd be able to campaign on doing exactly that)

So if they can wait until it's actually done, that's a better time to have a GE

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:02

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

For the record, I know a number of CLPs are absolutely not ready for an October election, so pushing it to November is fine by me.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:02

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

making Pfeffy the shortest serving PM ever would be funny though.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:03

Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

Darth Walrus posted:

For the record, I know a number of CLPs are absolutely not ready for an October election, so pushing it to November is fine by me.

Conversely, I know that at least 21 consituency tory parties are absolutely not ready for an October election.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:05

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Darth Walrus posted:

For the record, I know a number of CLPs are absolutely not ready for an October election, so pushing it to November is fine by me.

I'm abroad in the middle of October so fine by me too! I want to vote in person dangnabbit

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:06

ShadowSpectre: Oct 6, 2016

Qwertycoatl posted:

Conversely, I know that at least 21 consituency tory parties are absolutely not ready for an October election.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:07

Soylent Yellow: Nov 5, 2010; yospos

Qwertycoatl posted:

Conversely, I know that at least 21 consituency tory parties are absolutely not ready for an October election.

Doubtful. I'd be very surprised if at least half of them haven't had a hard brexiteer candidate on standby for months.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:09

Eschenique: Jul 19, 2019

So despite all threats of deselection the bill still passed?

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:11

sebzilla: Mar 17, 2009; Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.

The email was about selecting candidates for constituencies that don't have one ready. Let's get a goon into parliament!

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:12

Chuka Umana: Apr 30, 2019; by sebmojo

Caroline Flint saying she regrets not voting for May�s deal

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:14

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Chuka Umana posted:

Caroline Flint saying she regrets not voting for May’s deal

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:15

sebzilla: Mar 17, 2009; Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.

How many amendments do we have to sit through and are any of them important?

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:16

kustomkarkommando: Oct 22, 2012

The filibuster in the Lord's seems to have been adjourned with an agreed pause in hostilities with some talk about the guillotine motion being withdrawn and Tory peers backing off their filibuster of the bill proper if an election is allowed

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:16

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

The ships sinking quick tell the sun to run another jeremy corbyn hit piece.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:20

Maugrim: Feb 16, 2011; I eat your face

kustomkarkommando posted:

The filibuster in the Lord's seems to have been adjourned with an agreed pause in hostilities with some talk about the guillotine motion being withdrawn and Tory peers backing off their filibuster of the bill proper if an election is allowed

What is the guillotine motion? That sounds fun

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:21

Cast_No_Shadow: Jun 8, 2010; The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Are the Tories trying to waste time in the commons here? This a long loving division

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:22

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

Maugrim posted:

What is the guillotine motion? That sounds fun

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49580185

quote:

As it stands, the motion gives a mechanism - known as a "guillotine" - ensuring all stages of the bill are finished in the Lords by 19:00 on Friday.

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:23

Flip Yr Wig: Feb 21, 2007; Oh please do go on; Fun Shoe

sebzilla posted:

How many amendments do we have to sit through and are any of them important?

https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1169313758180773888

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:23

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

What was the amendment that just got crushed?

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:23

Cast_No_Shadow: Jun 8, 2010; The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

marktheando posted:

What was the amendment that just got crushed?

Remove the requirement for parliament to approve no deal

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:24

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

Ten amendments? The actual bill won't be voted on until about ten or 11 pm then...

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:24

mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

sebzilla posted:

The email was about selecting candidates for constituencies that don't have one ready. Let's get a goon into parliament!

It also likely indicates an immediate end to the trigger ballot process

E: I'd see where was available to stand for but the site is 504ing

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:25

kustomkarkommando: Oct 22, 2012

Maugrim posted:

What is the guillotine motion? That sounds fun

Old fashioned way of saying programme motion - it's the motion tabled to try to restrict debate on the bill proper so that all stages have to be completed by Friday (not common for the Lord's). Tory peers co-ordinated a planned filibuster to talk about their 70+ amendments to the programme motion, which themselves aren't constrained by the time limits set out in the motion, to force the clock to run out to the end of the week so the Lord's never even get round to debating the bill being passed in the commons before prorogation

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:25

Latitude Ocotpus: Nov 17, 2009

Do we have a list of the amendments they are voting on?

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:25

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Remove the requirement for parliament to approve no deal

Haha

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:26

sebzilla: Mar 17, 2009; Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.

Bardeh posted:

Ten amendments? The actual bill won't be voted on until about ten or 11 pm then...

Bercow usually provides a list of the ones he's selected, no?

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:27

Henry Black: Jun 27, 2004; If she's not making this face, you're not doing it right.; Fun Shoe

Bardeh posted:

Ten amendments? The actual bill won't be voted on until about ten or 11 pm then...

Depends how many go to division.

Lindsay Hoyle just tried to call a division off and is now being heckled though

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:27

Cast_No_Shadow: Jun 8, 2010; The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Wtf is happening

# ? Sep 4, 2019 19:27