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Henry Black posted:Lindsay Hoyle just tried to call a division off and is now being heckled though
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That's what I mean the blarite ammendment wins by default what the gently caress is happening and what does it mean
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Sep 4, 2019 19:29
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So does this mean we have another vote on May's deal? I'm confused.
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Wait, do they seriously take the mace out of its stand when the Speaker is not presiding over the House himself?
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I'm even more confused than I normally am when watching this arcane bullshit. Did an amendment just get passed by accident while all the MPs were off voting on something else?
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marktheando posted:So does this mean we have another vote on May's deal? I'm confused. Yeah wtf just happened Has Stephen Kinnock just hosed us
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Barry Foster posted:Yeah wtf just happened Hope is a lie
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Oh no.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:34
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So, do they take it back and redo the vote?
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Sep 4, 2019 19:34
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Not watching the stream, what does that mean?
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Sep 4, 2019 19:34
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They'll just quickly vote it down again, it's not the end of the world just a colossal waste of time
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this time parliament will get behind May's deal
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5 Cummings wandering around last night with a glass of wine picking fights is so stupid it feels like some rationalwiki inspired play, but unless he seriously thought JC would turn around and say “oh alright then, election tomorrow”, to what end?
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frankenfreak posted:Wait, do they seriously take the mace out of its stand when the Speaker is not presiding over the House himself? It sits under the table during Committees of the Whole House, because they don't want the mace to hear any secrets. That's not actually why, but it might as well be with all this ancient poo poo.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:36
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Enallyniv posted:Has everyone accusing MPs of "blocking Brexit" collectively forgotten that there's like 10 different ways to leave the EU that aren't No Deal or are they just quietly hoping nobody remembers at this point? Leaving the EU has never been, in the main, about enacting a policy. It's come about because charlatans have used it as a scapegoat for decades, and fascists have hated it for decades. The former primed a big chunk of the population to be open to leaving because they filled everyone's heads with nonsense about what the EU did and why - but the fash are the ones who are the ideological leaders and true believers. Brexit is an article of faith. The more extreme it is, the better, because it puts more distance between us and hated Brussels. Combined with the usual right wing bollocks about how great $MYCOUNTRY is and it's a potent combination. EU both bad and duplicitous - UK both strong and Blitz Spirit. There's no way we'll be worse off that's Project Fear and even if we are it's worth it for Sovereignty. And the one attempt at a deal was by Theresa and it was terrible so surely all other deals must be too! Brexit is the realm of fanatics and fabulists, and there are few remaining voices to say that we must Brexit carefully and thoughtfully. Each seeks to prove themselves more devoted to Brexit than the last, each accuses others of betrayal and treason and propounds their own purity and zeal. No Deal Brexit has become the shibboleth of Brexiteers, and anything less is proof of secret Remain sympathies. E; hahaha for gently caress sake, Kinnock you twat
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Henry Black posted:It sits under the table during Committees of the Whole House, because they don't want the mace to hear any secrets. It's a known fact that the queen and the mace are bounded together through ancient Norman french blood magic
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Are the ones who don't know what second and third reading of a bill mean all American or are so many Brits uninformed about Parliament?
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kustomkarkommando posted:It's a known fact that the queen and the mace are bounded together through ancient Norman french blood magic The Queen is of German heritage.
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Rust Martialis posted:Are the ones who don't know what second and third reading of a bill mean all American or are so many Brits uninformed about Parliament? Both!
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Rust Martialis posted:Are the ones who don't know what second and third reading of a bill mean all American or are so many Brits uninformed about Parliament? I went to uni for politics and I don't understand half the shite that goes on there, not surprising that folks might be unclear.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:39
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This means that Kinnock's sole success in life was accidental. Fitting really. I presume it can be amended in the lords?
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Ash Crimson posted:The Queen is of German heritage. I said the magic was Norman French not the queen's blood. Listen it's all very complicated and German Magic is completely negated by the house of commons symbols of power so you gotta use the old stuff
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Sep 4, 2019 19:40
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Rust Martialis posted:Are the ones who don't know what second and third reading of a bill mean all American or are so many Brits uninformed about Parliament? I'll be honest, it took a while for me to get the hang of actual commons stuff that I don't really have any clue how the house of lords works or what "readings" are.
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A bill is read once and introduced into the house, it's read a second time and debated as a whole and then voted on (usually), then it goes to committee and a bunch of amendments are tabled and voted on individually, then the amended bill is read a third time and a final division on the whole bill is held
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Sep 4, 2019 19:42
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Did anyone ever see what happened to the minimum letterbox height bill?
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Skarsnik posted:Did anyone ever see what happened to the minimum letterbox height bill? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47457758
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Rust Martialis posted:Are the ones who don't know what second and third reading of a bill mean all American or are so many Brits uninformed about Parliament? The actual process - readings, committees, amendments, etc - are actually pretty similar between the UK and US (unsurprisingly), the details vary of course. I think the thing is, even for those normally fairly clued up, the idea of the whole thing - which can take years - happening in an evening is pretty confusing.
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Can someone explain to me exactly how this works? I know our system is pretty dumb but being able to pass votes without actually voting seems like one of those things that just shouldn't happen.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:47
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Well thank gently caress for that, Britain is saved
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May's thrice defeated deal or the cross party one that has a bunch of concessions in it?
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Sep 4, 2019 19:48
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Sky reporting that the One Nation Conservatives (the wet bloc) have written a letter to Johnson demanding the 21 have the whip returned - as they have enough numbers to force an internal VoNC the whole thing has just got even funnier.
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Guavanaut posted:May's thrice defeated deal or the cross party one that has a bunch of concessions in it? Kinnock's amendments all referred to cross party talks in May 2019, so it's the latter I think
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RabidWeasel posted:Can someone explain to me exactly how this works? I know our system is pretty dumb but being able to pass votes without actually voting seems like one of those things that just shouldn't happen. If one side can't find two people to count their votes then the other wins by default.
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Guavanaut posted:May's thrice defeated deal or the cross party one that has a bunch of concessions in it? The latter https://twitter.com/SKinnock/status/1169301840636317701
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Hellworld: Maybot Brexit by the end of the year. Also 327-299
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If one side can't find two people to count their votes then the other wins by default. Like... Wait five minutes? Go into the hallway and ask if anyone's free?
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