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twoday posted:Look, they are starting a new round (or “rogue”) of parliament, so they need to “prorogue” it. But the only one with any power ceremonially is the queen. So she must ceremonially give away her power to the parliament, so she must be involved. And where does the queen get her power? From her ancestors who are buried in a “cairn” or stone tomb under Buckingham palace, which represents the realm of the dead. But the living can only cross the bridge between the realms of the living and the dead in the darkest phase of the lunar cycle, a.k.a. the “New Moon.” To guarantee that she will have enough time to do this, she is given 4 weeks (28 days, one full lunar cycle) to do the ritual in the cairn, plus one more week to prepare the speech. This is why there are 5 weeks of proroguement. On the night of the new moon she consults with the spirits of her ancestors in the cairn, and “charges up” the Golden Mace with parliamentary authority from the collective ancestors of the crown. Then she delivers a speech and the mace is returned to the House of Commons, newly recharged with ancient authority, and a new session (or “rogue”) of parliament can begin. The queen is the only one who can wear the crown, and thus the only one who contact the dead monarchs on the New Moon, so it is essential that she is involved. It may be largely ceremonial, but failing to comply would be a violation of the Druidic code by which Parliament functions, and if they didn’t do this, the whole house of commons would be considered “tainted” and they would have to ceremonially sacrifice them and throw them into a bog. This would require an entire set of local elections to be done, and even more delays (to prepare them for sacrifice, etc.), it would really be a giant headache. now i understand
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https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20 Very wholesome vibes here
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redleader posted:yeah, i can't believe they still let the queen have all the swans how much wealth do you think the royal family has in the commonwealth tax havens?
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a bunch of sticks bound together can be a symbol of government, makes u think
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20 oh yeah free trade deals with the US are always super great for the
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sorry what https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1169720609095462913
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Maybe that forces an election to happen, which could mean that any useful business gets pushed back a couple of weeks, which means the country slides into no-deal Brexit.
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prefect posted:The Lincoln Memorial has fasces carved right into the front of it. It wasn't an uncommon symbol before you-know-who. READ ANOTHER GODDAMN BOOK
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Squizzle posted:???the southern baptists are an evangelical denomination tho????????? (thread drift ends.)
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Is that a thing that happens?
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is that a thing that happens? *picks up phone* BREXIT! *click*
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Raskolnikov38 posted:READ ANOTHER GODDAMN BOOK I realize this is a joke, but I would like to say in my defense that I have never read a Harry Potter book or seen one of the movies. I might have touched some of the books -- I used to work in a bookstore. But I haven't read the jacket copy, either.  (There are certain accusations that must be denied, even if they were made in jest.)
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I think it is the speakers gift to hear a vote of no confidence, only the leader of the opposition is guaranteed a vote.
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20 he's not wrong your country is also called "Airstrip One" now
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Kaedric posted:did I do this right you did good man
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20 I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a gammon than the outside of a chud.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:grape i mean this in the nicest possible way when i say this, but please stop making posts Oh no, oliwan and This Guy are upset. I've gone too far.
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Would be epic if a vote of no confidence also failed to pass.
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i'm just gonna post this here too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAoR4h6SQGg
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20 Once the UK is out, the US is in. No lube or nothing, so get ready.
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Jo Jo in blow to bro Bo Jo’s majo as Bo Jo’s bro Jo Jo goes page 2: ScarJo, ho?
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broad germanic forehead and coiled potency
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this government failing to pass its own no confidence motion would be completely on brand
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20
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Martout posted:broad germanic forehead and coiled potency
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Raskolnikov38 posted:because its stupid as gently caress that you haven't beheaded them in the past 200 years You have a political office that's got all the power of a monarch but they use that power every day, and 1/4 of every term is dedicated to the country going completely insane in a disgusting media spectacle in order to prepare for the next term. in comparison our old lady seems to last about 70 years with maybe only commemorative plate collectors going insane at the start and end. hobbesmaster posted:it didn’t really have the same connotations until Mussolini The yanks started using it even more after Mussolini, specifically around the time they started their most public suppression of political dissident groups like communists and black people
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shyduck posted:We're joining the EU? In a manner of speaking 
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HorseLord posted:You have a political office that's got all the power of a monarch but they use that power every day, and 1/4 of every term is dedicated to the country going completely insane in a disgusting media spectacle in order to prepare for the next term. in comparison our old lady seems to last about 70 years with maybe only commemorative plate collectors going insane at the start and end. yes but we elect them so its infinitely better
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like the third time ive mentioned this so i know your getting tired of hearing it, but if the govt fails a vonc, law doesnt compel a ge until 2 weeks have passed w/o someone gaining the confidence of the chamber hes just running out the clock
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HorseLord posted:You have a political office that's got all the power of a monarch but they use that power every day, and 1/4 of every term is dedicated to the country going completely insane in a disgusting media spectacle in order to prepare for the next term. in comparison our old lady seems to last about 70 years with maybe only commemorative plate collectors going insane at the start and end. yeah we know the country was super in favor of nazis until pearl harbor
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Squizzle posted:like the third time ive mentioned this so i know your getting tired of hearing it, but if the govt fails a vonc, law doesnt compel a ge until 2 weeks have passed w/o someone gaining the confidence of the chamber If the government fails to pass a VONC in itself then there is no election.
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/1169728827213303808?s=20 people laugh, but when England is the worlds greatest Amazon Fulfillment Centre who'll be laughing then!!
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the 80s were a great time for art and I therefore welcome the brexit apocalypse. up the (classical) fall
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According to FPTA 2011, if the VONC succeeds than there must be a GE unless the parliament approves an alternative within 14 days, which it can not do if it is prorogued, so does it default to an automatic election, or is that 14 days counted once parliament is back in session? Are they still going to be prorogued?  I just saw that there are two prorogation-related petitions scheduled to be debated in parliament but I can’t figure out if they are going to be prorogued before debating them or not? 
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dpf posted:the 80s were a great time for art and I therefore welcome the brexit apocalypse. The Fall were the soundtrack to what a post-apocalyptic version of Britain would sound like. Which I guess was contemporary Manchester at the time.
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