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Alternatively, you could spend both zero dollars and zero hours playing a game that isn't actually entertaining unless you spend unreasonable amounts of time or money.
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If you can afford to spend $80,000 on a mobile game, and choose to do so... Then either gently caress you you dumb oval office or get some psychiatric help. Or both. Seriously doubt most of them are investment bankers. Their sons, maybe.
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Sep 5, 2019 12:46
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I think about this kind of thing when I'm playing Egg Inc. Like... why do I like it? I like the progression, and whatever happens in my brain when a new 'thing' unlocks is enough for me to want to keep going. I also would love to be the type of player who, when joining a contract, carries other players. Not there yet, and I've already spent probably the most I'll ever spend on it, which was the $6.50 or whatever (in CDN $) for the unlocked filled piggy bank at level 6 or 7, so I'm more or less cool with waiting, and then just periodically refreshing my game, emptying my silos, stuff like that. It doesn't bug me how long it'll take to get 250 million standard eggs, if the end result is something like 400 million soul eggs. If I paid money to make that (or any major advancement) happen almost instantaneously, then I wouldn't really have any draw to go back to the game. And it would likely give me the same 'yes!' feeling that even a smaller gain would give me. I mean, I really don't think the feeling of success is stacked when I get 5 things in this game vs 1, so I might as well pad it out and have more of them happen over time, than have a bunch happen all at once.
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Sep 5, 2019 13:12
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Epic 7 : I was doing some Covenant pulls and I pulled a 4 star dude but then he seems to have vanished, like not in my hero list anywhere. Is that normal, did I need to press something else after than?
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Sep 5, 2019 13:26
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Aramoro posted:Epic 7 : I was doing some Covenant pulls and I pulled a 4 star dude but then he seems to have vanished, like not in my hero list anywhere. Is that normal, did I need to press something else after than? He might be in your storage box?
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Sep 5, 2019 13:30
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I was reading an article about microtransactions which put an interesting spin on it from the perspective of a 'whale' player. The wealthy whale is largely a myth. It's overwhelmingly people without impulsive control that can't afford it. That's why gacha games go to such lengths to hide how much real money you're spending. Bezos wouldn't care, but a normal person would be shocked and might stop.
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Sep 5, 2019 14:03
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I read an article some time ago about a guy who spent thousands of dollars on, uh, FF Brave Exius (one of the FF games that frequently has crossover characters from other games) or something. Except he didn't really have that kind of money to throw around, and it very nearly ruined his entire life because of the game exploiting that bad brain logic that casinos exploit as well to ruin people.
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Sep 5, 2019 14:11
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Morpheus posted:I read an article some time ago about a guy who spent thousands of dollars on, uh, FF Brave Exius (one of the FF games that frequently has crossover characters from other games) or something. Except he didn't really have that kind of money to throw around, and it very nearly ruined his entire life because of the game exploiting that bad brain logic that casinos exploit as well to ruin people. Pretty sure that guy was married and had kids, too. And hid it all. gently caress mobile gaming. It is so incredibly hard to find decent games now that aren't cash grabs 
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Sep 5, 2019 14:14
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I mean, it's easy to do - you just completely and utterly avoid the 'free to play' section of the store. Lots of good games. Lots of games that, unfortunately, simply don't have the budget to advertise (usually in other f2p games) When I want something that I know will be simple and just poke that gacha part of my brain, I browse the f2p section, otherwise I stay far away because they're always all trash.
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Sep 5, 2019 14:16
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Thundercracker posted:The wealthy whale is largely a myth. It's overwhelmingly people without impulsive control that can't afford it. That's why gacha games go to such lengths to hide how much real money you're spending. Bezos wouldn't care, but a normal person would be shocked and might stop. Yeah the whole wealthy whale thing is just a few cases and it's unfortunate that people spread that idea around to justify exploitive practices.
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I find it weird just for gaming reasons. Like theres no skill curve to climb or boss to master. Its literally just paying actual money to see some numbers go up. It is poor impulse control like said above. Also a dubious form of social validation too perhaps. These guys could probably lose their phone, get sucked in by a new game rather than reinstalling the old one and be top of league in a day and I guess thats a feeling of accomplishment maybe? For me its the git gud bit thats fun. Games like AFK really are devilish clever in pushing the brain buttons making you think you achieved something when none of its skill. Its a fun thing to tap at and looks purty and I cant deny it feels cool to get that summon and ascend that dude. It feels even cooler cos its lucky and a wait between good luck.
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Morpheus posted:I mean, it's easy to do - you just completely and utterly avoid the 'free to play' section of the store. Lots of good games. Lots of games that, unfortunately, simply don't have the budget to advertise (usually in other f2p games) Even the paid games these days still have pay-to-win microtransactions. It's rare to see a game where you pay the sticker price and that's it.
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I think one of the things that sets afk apart is that you genuinely can reconfigure your team to beat some encounters that were stopping you, plus they actually make it pretty cheap and easy to experiment, unlike say epic7 which charges you big bucks to move equipment around. I've pushed past several encounters by switching teams and it was a pretty cool feeling to go 'what if...' and see it work.
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Girls Frontline is incredibly F2P friendly. Even pulls cost resources that you get for absolutely free over time, and it doesn't even take much of them to get something decent. The game hands you hands-down one of the best complete squads in the game just for playing the story. If anyone is curious, while a lot of the images in the OP have fallen away but there's still good info there, if a little outdated. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3848572&pagenumber=1 New Leaf fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Sep 5, 2019 |
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Sep 5, 2019 15:09
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Has anyone here started getting ads for previously simple games but with a big chunk of the screen devoted to a paypal counter, promising money for being good at Not Bust A Move and such? Isn't that ilegal as hell?
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Sep 5, 2019 15:51
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New Leaf posted:Girls Frontline is incredibly F2P friendly. Even pulls cost resources that you get for absolutely free over time, and it doesn't even take much of them to get something decent. The game hands you hands-down one of the best complete squads in the game just for playing the story. I found the grind in Girls Frontline rather tedious just to get my squads strong enough to do each story mission. Running 2-1 Emergency on repeat and whatnot. Anyway if I do come back to the game, I'll post in the proper thread.
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Sep 5, 2019 16:04
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Kunster posted:Has anyone here started getting ads for previously simple games but with a big chunk of the screen devoted to a paypal counter, promising money for being good at Not Bust A Move and such? Anything trying to pay you to install it that has 💰 for ads wants to gently caress with your device or information and should probably be reported if you're feeling like upping that G rep. Advertising equivalent of "Bruh, quit being a nerd and just install it, it'll be cool" RubberBands Hurt fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Sep 5, 2019 |
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Sep 5, 2019 17:01
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Morpheus posted:I read an article some time ago about a guy who spent thousands of dollars on, uh, FF Brave Exius (one of the FF games that frequently has crossover characters from other games) or something. Except he didn't really have that kind of money to throw around, and it very nearly ruined his entire life because of the game exploiting that bad brain logic that casinos exploit as well to ruin people. The post is "A Whale of a Tale" and is good reading for anyone thinking of spending money on gachas. I don't mind throwing a few dollars at some of these games that I play a few minutes every day as long as the value is guaranteed (e.g. the pick a 5* banner in Another Eden). I refuse to spend non-disposable income on gambling for a database entry that will vanish whenever the company turns off the servers. At least in a casino there's a chance to walk away with actual money.
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I fall into the trap of it being a serotonin button. If I get something good it gives me a little thrill, like buying some useless plastic figure for my desk. It's a terrible habit that I can't seem to break away from.
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New Leaf posted:I fall into the trap of it being a serotonin button. If I get something good it gives me a little thrill, like buying some useless plastic figure for my desk. It's a terrible habit that I can't seem to break away from. Ah yes, that's what I was trying to get at with my previous post about Egg Inc. Thanks!
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I'm pretty sure that for a few grand at most, you could just hire a programmer to hack any mobile game to give you infinite premium currency and set up a private server if needed. Of course, most of these games wouldn't be much fun without the gambling aspect, just like it's no fun to play blackjack or roulette with no money on the line.
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Konstantin posted:I'm pretty sure that for a few grand at most, you could just hire a programmer to hack any mobile game to give you infinite premium currency and set up a private server if needed. Of course, most of these games wouldn't be much fun without the gambling aspect, just like it's no fun to play blackjack or roulette with no money on the line. I dunno, people spend thousands on Candy Crush-likes and other single-player games with no gacha mechanics. It's not always about the gambling.
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I think there's a degree of wish fulfillment.. Like, I've "hit a wall" with my work/family/social life and I'm stuck and can't progress, and now I'm stuck in the game that helps me pass the time or take my mind off of things - but for just $4.99, I have the power to change that!!! Then you pay for the next wall, and the next, and the next.. Vicious cycle.
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Anecdotal, sure, but having worked for a company with a gacha game the majority of emails I'd deal with weren't from people wanting refunds, it was from people wanting their spending cap removed. (There would be a $2k monthly cap for the first 2 months) Of course I'm sure it's game dependent, but most of the people I dealt with were older retired rich folk who wouldn't balk at dropping a few hundos in a day to roll the gacha. From what a lot of them would say, it was this or the casino and with this they didn't have to leave home and they'd actually get "something" for the money instead of it all just going to the house anyways.
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Sep 5, 2019 18:41
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I just want to find a fun RPG based card game like Gems of War or Ascension that is F2P or dirt cheap. I tried Star Realms which didn't really click with me, Sentinels is a bit too expensive for my liking, especially when I get to play the actual game a bit. Pathfinder Adventures was cool but you hit a wall early on. Any other games like those?
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This talk reminds me of when I worked for IGT (then Spielo) as a sound designer and composer, and while most players would just shut off the sound, I was still tasked creating that essence of 'fun' in my work. Like when you touched something and it exploded, that had to sound satisfying. Even button presses needed audible feedback.
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OxMan posted:Anecdotal, sure, but having worked for a company with a gacha game the majority of emails I'd deal with weren't from people wanting refunds, it was from people wanting their spending cap removed. (There would be a $2k monthly cap for the first 2 months) Of course I'm sure it's game dependent, but most of the people I dealt with were older retired rich folk who wouldn't balk at dropping a few hundos in a day to roll the gacha. From what a lot of them would say, it was this or the casino and with this they didn't have to leave home and they'd actually get "something" for the money instead of it all just going to the house anyways. Jesus, I'm glad my mom didn't get into mobile games. Sounds like borderline elder abuse actually. The 'its this or slots' rationale doesn't make the situation any better.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Ah yes, that's what I was trying to get at with my previous post about Egg Inc. Thanks! Essentially people with money* can buy the hit, people without it have to grind for it for an amount of time tweaked just past the point of comfort to make them spend a little and often because they want it, and neither of these positions are ok. * Whether they can afford it or not
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Osmosisch posted:I think one of the things that sets afk apart is that you genuinely can reconfigure your team to beat some encounters that were stopping you, plus they actually make it pretty cheap and easy to experiment, unlike say epic7 which charges you big bucks to move equipment around. I've pushed past several encounters by switching teams and it was a pretty cool feeling to go 'what if...' and see it work. If you like that try Final Fantasy Record Keeper. It's essentially a boss battle game with nearly every boss from a FF game, so hundreds of bosses all with very unique battles. Extremely generous too. Just from beginner free rolls and give aways you can a dozen characters easily. Levelling up is trivial and all equipment and abilities are modular. And hard boss battles are like puzzles. In the Reddit community the biggest brags aren't how much you whaled, but beating end game with starter or free gear
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Thundercracker posted:If you like that try Final Fantasy Record Keeper. It's essentially a boss battle game with nearly every boss from a FF game, so hundreds of bosses all with very unique battles. Extremely generous too. Just from beginner free rolls and give aways you can a dozen characters easily. Levelling up is trivial and all equipment and abilities are modular. I'm pretty sure I played FFRK for three years starting when it first launched. It's an incredibly good game, especially if you are a final fantasy fan.
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AFK arena now immediately crashes whenever I try opening it. Aww.
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Luisfe posted:AFK arena now immediately crashes whenever I try opening it. Aww. Get out while you still can.
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Luisfe posted:AFK arena now immediately crashes whenever I try opening it. Aww. I was able to complete the new Voyage of Wonders island but hit some major lag. First time this even stuttered on my Pixel 3a.
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Baddog posted:Jesus, I'm glad my mom didn't get into mobile games. Sounds like borderline elder abuse actually. My mum's mainly playing farming or word-puzzle mobages, and she refuses to spend a single cent 
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Luisfe posted:AFK arena now immediately crashes whenever I try opening it. Aww. Meydey posted:I was able to complete the new Voyage of Wonders island but hit some major lag. First time this even stuttered on my Pixel 3a. I can't wait for the free diamonds in apology. Wish this game had more issues tbh
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I think I'm addicted to gacha games. Specifically deleting them. That feeling when you remove the app and suddenly how much it had become a chore is revealed as the feeling of obligation lifts, it's intoxicating.
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Resdfru posted:I can't wait for the free diamonds in apology. Wish this game had more issues tbh 600 this time. Not bad
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Arms_Akimbo posted:600 this time. Not bad So far I have been affected by exactly zero of these bugs they keep compensating us for. But I sure enjoy the free currency!
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Arms_Akimbo posted:600 this time. Not bad The 600 was for the maintenance that caused the lag. Should be more diamonds coming for the new issues.
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Can I get an opinion on the android version of King of Dragons Pass? I had played the poo poo out of the original was very disappointed that they rereleased only on iOS. When I saw it recomended for me on the app store I was ready to throw money at it until i saw the reviews for Ui issues. Can anyone attest to how bad the issues are if I try playing this on a phone instead of a tablet?
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