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Jose posted:It's all coming up Liz truss Comes the hour, comes the man.
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Necrothatcher posted:As clearly demonstrated by them blocking Johnson into a corner and making his only option a vote of no confidence in himself. If only they had some strategic sense though... Yes, they have obviously done the right thing here, eventually. But the fact that it basically took the entire frontbench to make the point against the instincts of the leadership is pretty concerning IMO.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:
The only thing I have to say about it, and this is in no way your fault, is that Podbean sure don't make it easy to avoid their app if as me you just want to download the audio file. The solution, by the by, is to find the feed and grab the files directly. Josef bugman posted:Apparently I used to do this as a kid, like if I saw something I found embarrasing I would just leave the room or put my fingers in my ears to block things out. I think the worst is when I am trying to watch "cringe" comedy and I just can't do it without feeling very sorry for the people on screen. That diatribe aside, I hope you find something you're comfortable with, friend. You do you! Firos posted:Lol that after being asked to make shorter episodes we've managed to make an even longer episode this week.  justcola posted:Maybe that could be a way of getting more used to conflict? Watching The Thick of It could be like aversion therapy. But - I used to blush a lot, mostly when people would make suggestive comments to me, flirt and so on, which further embarassed me and making me blush more. I then got a job teaching life drawing to hen party's, so every session I'd be stood in front of 20 or so women I'd never met before (or meet again) and had a whole host of sexual comments aimed at me. I quickly got over blushing this way, particularly as each session was self-contained and in the end I knew it didn't really matter. 
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Igotadigbick posted:Have you seen the state of most of the British public? Yeah I guess so. What happens if BJ calls a vote of no confidence in himself? Does that trigger elections or something ?
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Igotadigbick posted:Bugman, do you utilise any mindfulness practice in your day to day life? It's been a big part of the DBT I've been getting and it really helps with powerful emotions like the kind that conflict and embarrassment can bring up! It might not make the sensations and urges go but it puts a little distance in there and helps them not become all encompassing. I have difficulty using CBT. Theres a fair old amount of things where I know the tools I can use but I just end up looking at how to use them for this moment and end up going "huh". I rely on instruction far far Far too much.
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Jose posted:It's all coming up Liz truss *in extremely McElroy voice* Oh, there's a hog crisis alright Alternatively: Legit question for rural Chinese: How do I inseminate the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small children play? E: CBT is generally best with a partner 
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Sep 6, 2019 09:24
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Ms Adequate posted:*in extremely McElroy voice* Oh, there's a hog crisis alright 
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Chinese Gordon posted:Yes, they have obviously done the right thing here, eventually. But the fact that it basically took the entire frontbench to make the point against the instincts of the leadership is pretty concerning IMO. I don't think it's so clear cut on whether to push for an election on Monday or not. I posted an article by Steven Bush earlier on this, but more time can give Johnson space to recover as it can for him to collapse, and more time for them to come up with policies and campaign outside of election rules. Still, it's not the end of the world, and if johnson resigns as PM rather than extend article 50 that's still pretty good since that looks betting going into an election, which Ideally we'd hold early november.
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D. Ebdrup posted:Urrrgggghh, I absofuckinglutely cannot stand that kind of comedy (though I'm not a fan of using that particular word, I don't have suggestions for what else to call it). Unfortunately for me, a show that was wildly popular a bunch of years ago is now scheduled to return with the same cast of mostly people who have demonstrated in the past to have good comedy chops and this one guy who is just absolutely the worst because he is just trying so damned hard to be awkward and it's his only schtick that he's flogging like an 80s hack comedian. Would the term embarrassment humour be better do you think?
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Miftan posted:Glad to hear I'm not the only person with this clusterfuck of a voice. You do sound weirdly familiar to me too but I have no idea why cos I definitely don't know anyone with that accent. Josef bugman posted:the worst is when I am trying to watch "cringe" comedy and I just can't do it without feeling very sorry for the people on screen. This is me 1000% I do not at all understand the appeal of cringe comedy because I don't see what's funny about it, like I don't see the part that's supposed to induce laughter.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I don't think it's so clear cut on whether to push for an election on Monday or not. I posted an article by Steven Bush earlier on this, but more time can give Johnson space to recover as it can for him to collapse, and more time for them to come up with policies and campaign outside of election rules. Still, it's not the end of the world, and if johnson resigns as PM rather than extend article 50 that's still pretty good since that looks betting going into an election, which Ideally we'd hold early november. There is some merit to the argument that the Tories and their fash press allies can use the unofficial campaign period to their advantage. Expect to see some variation on the hilarious chicken gag on every front page daily. However, I think it's clear that whatever advantage that may bring is almost certainly going to be massively outweighed by Humiliation For Loser Johnson as he is forced to publically eat poo poo and request an extension. Or resign. Or call a vote of confidence in himself (this galaxy brain plan wouldn't work, for multiple reasons).
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OwlFancier posted:This is me 1000% I do not at all understand the appeal of cringe comedy because I don't see what's funny about it, like I don't see the part that's supposed to induce laughter. It's cathartic - it's actually good for the reasons you and bman don't like it, it shows you the absolute worst, most awkward people, and you get to laugh about how you're (hopefully) not like that. Also mix in the sheer schadenfreude of watching terrible people have a terrible time. We all enjoy watching Johnson humiliate himself, so why not Alan Partridge or David Brent?
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Delthalaz posted:I don't get it, the Tories have been a nonstop train wreck for loving years, how is there even a remote chance that they'll win an election? xtothez posted:News on local radio here is again repeating Boris' line on Labour "denying the public" a general election, while picking the shortest, weakest Labour quote they could find as the rebuttal. loving disgusting. Most people hear only one heavily distorted side of the story most of the time. I had an interesting conversation with a colleague earlier this week about the possibility of a new GE. She didn't want to vote for anyone because while she hates Tories, she also "doesn't like" Corbyn for reasons she couldn't really explain. I pressed it, and she showed me a Daily Mail (or maybe Express) article one of her friends had recently shared on Facebook about Corbyn supporting sending British soldiers to jail. She thought that was totally wrong, but clearly hadn't looked into the article. Just from the headline I knew the story was about historical crimes during the troubles, so I explained the case of a British soldier deliberately shooting an unarmed teenager in the face and how his fellow soldier had reported him for it. She asked why the newspaper would publish stories that are so misleading; I said one of Corybn's main policies is to raise income tax for anyone earning over £80k, how much do you think newspaper editors and senior journalists earn? She said "oh wow I never knew that either, makes a lot of sense". While I didn't convince her to vote Labour from one conversation, she did agree to give Corbyn a chance during the next election and listen to a speech or party broadcast. Luckily she is a fairly bright person and is someone capable of changing her mind based on new information. There is a scary amount of people out there who just glance at news headlines and internalise them as fact without verifying or even reading any details, and over time it becomes very difficult if not impossible to shift. After a certain number of "Corbyn loves terrorists" headlines some people just will not vote for him, no matter how much evidence you have to the contrary. And that's how you end up with Tories.
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Barry Foster posted:It's cathartic - it's actually good for the reasons you and bman don't like it, it shows you the absolute worst, most awkward people, and you get to laugh about how you're (hopefully) not like that. The very critical point is that I enjoy Johnson eating poo poo because he's actually someone I bear great hostility to. It's like competition, I don't like competition, I don't derive any enjoyment from beating people unless I have a reason to feel animosity towards them, and being arbitratily assigned to fight someone doesn't generate that. So, Johnson eating poo poo is extremely enjoyable. Ricky Gervais eating poo poo would be very enjoyable. Ricky Gervais being paid a lot of money to pretend to make people uncomfortable isn't enjoyable at all. It's only fun if it's real. It's only cathartic if you actually lust for the blood of the person in question.
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Barry Foster posted:It's cathartic - it's actually good for the reasons you and bman don't like it, it shows you the absolute worst, most awkward people, and you get to laugh about how you're (hopefully) not like that. I just get annoyed/angry at cringe comedy most of the time, mostly because I'm thinking "no one would do that/be that stupid, they should do X..." most the time when watching it. I suppose they are getting a reaction from me, just not the one they want. Still, stay on the right shade of believable and it can be good (The inbetweeners)
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OwlFancier posted:You do sound weirdly familiar to me too but I have no idea why cos I definitely don't know anyone with that accent. Well at least you aren't my friend who thought the office was an actual documentary after seeing the first episode (when it first was on tv). He thought it was a "bit boring". I couldn't stop laughing at him for ages after that.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ultimately it's all down to personal taste, just trying to explain why I like it. The Inbetweeners is really really good though. It's obviously exaggerated a bit, but it's an incredibly accurate depiction of that stage in a sixth form teenage boy's life. A lot of it is eerily close to my own experiences, and I suspect that's true for a lot of people. Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Sep 6, 2019 |
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Nuclear Spoon posted:the inbetweeners is bad because all it does is make me remember how poo poo school was. cool let's revisit a really unpleasant experience during your formative years. this is funny, for some reason. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jippa posted:Well at least you aren't my friend who thought the office was an actual documentary after seeing the first episode (when it first was on tv). He thought it was a "bit boring". I couldn't stop laughing at him for ages after that. This really is a testament to its writing, to be fair.
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For you younguns who might have missed it look up "This is Spinal Tap" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Spinal_Tap
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OwlFancier posted:The very critical point is that I enjoy Johnson eating poo poo because he's actually someone I bear great hostility to. The catharsis comes if you've worked for a oval office boss like David Brent IRL.
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Jippa posted:For you younguns who might have missed it look up "This is Spinal Tap" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Spinal_Tap An absolute masterpiece and probably the zenith of cringe comedy
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Jippa posted:For you younguns who might have missed it look up "This is Spinal Tap" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Spinal_Tap See I like Spinal Tap, because its so daft as to make itself impossible to take seriously. The detachment makes it work IMO.
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Failed Imagineer posted:The catharsis comes if you've worked for a oval office boss like David Brent IRL. It doesn't do it for me, I'm afraid.
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Can't actually read the article but students would defo be more active and involved for a Nov election - given the term doesn't start till late Sept/early Oct getting students to register in time and orgnized for canvassing would but an utter nightmare for a Oct election - it was hard enough back last June when it was during exam season, very start of term would be worse. That extra month would be pretty massive for student organization and votes.
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coffeetable posted:there's also a pleasure in having cringeworthy moments that you thought were unique to you revealed as universal experiences This is the big one for me. When it comes to oval office bosses and being a teenager, it's nice to know that other people have had similar experiences and that I'm not alone in thinking 'is it just me or are most people in offices insufferable pricks? or ''I was a uniquely insufferable little prick at 16-20'
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coffeetable posted:you put £1 on a conservative majority, you get £2.62 back if they actually get a majority Sounds like a good deal for putting down twenty on. If you lose, you win, if you win, you get to drink yourself into a stupor.
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Jippa posted:Well at least you aren't my friend who thought the office was an actual documentary after seeing the first episode (when it first was on tv). He thought it was a "bit boring". I couldn't stop laughing at him for ages after that. People like that are the reason Police Squad only got a single series and should be hunted down and used for compost.
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Having those experiences to relate to on the show is vital too - It's why I bounced off Peep Show, not being a working adult yet means it just didn't land with me as it's more unfamiliar.
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People were constantly on at me to watch the Office because "we've all had bosses like that" and it's like yeah we have and they weren't funny either 
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Rincewinds posted:Sounds like a good deal for putting down twenty on. If you lose, you win, if you win, you get to drink yourself into a stupor. this is 'emotional hedging': bet against the side you want to win in an amount large enough that you no longer want your side to win. then get on with your life. whether you'll place the bet or not, it's an interesting thought experiment to figure out just how much you care about politics of course the better option is to not let yourself care that much in the first place.
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