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OwlFancier posted:Also yes Hebrew has an actual letter for that noise though it's present in most germanic languages. It's an upside down u! - ח  Arabic has it too. It's pretty standard in semitic languages in general. 122 is the number for the po-po in Egypt.
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HorseLord posted:Both of these posts are correct. The horrifying part is that the disgusting painful sounding throat clearing noise is how they pronounce the letter G. I can only figure that the Netherlands was once colonised by Klingons, because nobody completely human can pronounce Van Gogh "properly". If you ever feel like you're getting to grips with the language, you can always humble yourself by trying to correctly pronounce the name of famous Dutch beer Grolsch.
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big scary monsters posted:If you ever feel like you're getting to grips with the language, you can always humble yourself by trying to correctly pronounce the name of famous Dutch beer Grolsch. I know a Dutch dude who ordered that in the UK - with correct pronunciation - and got given a Carling that was probably accompanied by an eye roll.
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So, even after the worst start ever as PM the tories are still massively ahead in the polls. This loving country man. I blame the yellow tories.
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Sep 7, 2019 18:58
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Miftan posted:It's an upside down u! - ח
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Guavanaut posted:I did wonder whether the noise in Modern Hebrew came from the Germanic sound or Semitic sound. Like Hebrew has the distinction of being both an ancient liturgical language and also a modern revival language constructed mostly by Yiddish speakers from central and eastern Europe and Arabic speaking Jews in Palestine. Probably the semitic sound. The language was still spoken for prayers and stuff AFAIK, just wasn't used for every day things because the biblical version is a pain in the rear end. The letters and the sounds probably predate the modern Germanic sound though and has been kept 'in use' as it were through reading the bible.
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Sep 7, 2019 19:01
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It exists in some slavic languages too, it's more the romance and perfidious brit languages that have a problem with it.
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Sep 7, 2019 19:02
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HorseLord posted:Both of these posts are correct. The horrifying part is that the disgusting painful sounding throat clearing noise is how they pronounce the letter G. I can only figure that the Netherlands was once colonised by Klingons, because nobody completely human can pronounce Van Gogh "properly". Yep, and they blend something like it into the "sch" as well (which the Germans pronounce more sensibly, roughly like English "sh"), pronouncing it a bit like "s", then "crazy throat sounds". Vandaag ga ik graag met Geert naar Schiphol en Scheveningen om genoeg grappige groentjes te gooien!
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notaspy posted:So, even after the worst start ever as PM the tories are still massively ahead in the polls. I don't know how much polling has been done this week but I'd expect the Tory vote to hold up for the next month because the death cultists think that he's going to just not extend A50 somehow. moostaffa posted:https://twitter.com/dirk1978/status/1170270081223462912 Glad someone did this.
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notaspy posted:So, even after the worst start ever as PM the tories are still massively ahead in the polls. They were before the last election too, and that one lead to the biggest swing to Labour in half a century
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I mean we've seen before that polling has both a lag and the fact that a lot of folks are just convinced that whatever choice you make its a good one. This is what being middle class is like.
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Bobstar posted:
I swear, I can almost read that crap and have it make sense, but it's just outside my grasp. It's infuriating. Like someone writing really really obscure dialect from some fuckin valley in the middle ages.
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AceOfFlames posted:Oh I assure you I am real. I just dump the thoughts I don't dare express here because I believe the people on this forum are the most aware of the troubles facing the world and thus are the best equipped to understand where I am coming from and thus come to a solution. To be honest, since you decided to dump this on a public forum, in a thread about politics, I'm cautiously guessing we would also like to sent you to an asylum, because hot drat. On the other hand, we weirdos on the internet surely can't just drive on the information super-highway to your house/apartment and drag you bodily to the next mental health institute, like the people you know in real life theoretically could. So maybe this therapy by internet you're doing will work out for you? I sincerely hope it does, at least. Since I only had one module on psychology and communication at university I can't really help you, but I have two tips for things you've mentioned, based on my life experience: -Walking for fitness works, as long as you walk at least 6 hours a week. A combination of biking and running works better, and according to my doctor you will only need 3-4 hours of exercise a week to stay healthy. -If learning a language is troubling you, even though you expend a lot of effort, seek novels or books you like in the language you want to learn. Start with using a good one-way dictionary for [target language - your language], as this will help you think in the language you are learning. Don't give up and work your way through the novels. After a couple of books, learning should become easier, after that it's just about understanding the grammar well enough you can ace tests, the feeling for the language will already be there and help you. After a couple years, you won't even need the dictionary anymore, only an occasional trip to a translation website to explain a particular strange new word. Namtab posted:My message to ace of flames is thus. Also good advice. AOF, take note! AceOfFlames posted:I just can't seem to square the circle set forth by society. On one hand scores of well intentioned therapists say "love yourself! You are good enough" and on the other everyone else says "Do CrossFit! Enjoy your job! Don't just do what you're told, go above and beyond! Travel! Make lots of friends! Try out new careers! Try! IMPROVE! WORK! WHY ARE YOU DOING NOTHING? What do you mean you say at home and browsed the internet all weekend for the 3rd month straight? You think "free" time is for doing nothing? DO SOMETHING!" I do nothing with my free time, I get afraid of trying because people will no I did nothing and the cycle repeats. Am I supposed to just ignore it and risk further ostracism? My job as a computer touched is the only thing I have. And yet it's not enough? Holy poo poo, welp that certainly doesn't belong here, but let me try to help again. After all, I have 6 months of psychology education so I should be awesome at this! 1. Get a good smartphone and a nice data plan 2. Get out of your home and browse the internet while you're doing other things, like I dunno, walking in the forest? Hiking in a nearby mountain? 3. After you feel better about yourself, get a pet. Preferentially one that takes lots of work to care for. 4. Now you fit in perfect with society and if someone asks what you're doing in your free time, just fill it with stories about long forest walks and pet care. 5. Everyone will secretly think you're awesome but also avoid your tedious, boring stories. Double-victory! And now this case is closed and we can turn back to the shitshow of British politics forever. 
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How is Grolsch pronounced correctly? I used to go over to the Netherlands at Christmas because our Brussels Sprout supplier was based there and we used to supply supermarkets a few sprouts at Christmas. They were just outside Rotterdam, went there a few times while I should have been working and wandered around the town all the time. Bought 8 bottles of Grolsch Kanon (or something like that) for about 7 euros and got absolutely hammered. It was a nice tasty beer too. Very strong. Didn't go look at Sprouts very early the next day.
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Gort posted:They were before the last election too, and that one lead to the biggest swing to Labour in half a century I agree things cam change very quickly but expecting lightning to strike twice is a bold move when most of the swing came from Corbyn being a decent bloke and not having suffered 3 years of character assassination. This was more a statement on how bone headed the people in this country are and how we need to make sure we are not drawn to deeply into the Westminster bubble, which is mostly ignored outside of nerds like us.
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Dead Goon posted:How is Grolsch pronounced correctly? 
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notaspy posted:I agree things cam change very quickly but expecting lightning to strike twice is a bold move when most of the swing came from Corbyn being a decent bloke and not having suffered 3 years of character assassination. to be quite fair, the only thing people are expecting to happen twice is that labour runs a much stronger campaign than the tories and their policies are popular, which is quite likely besides now bojo is the extreme stalinist candidate so we'll see how easily he wins this *bojo wins GE easily from within the tower of london* ah! well, nevertheless
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Dead Goon posted:How is Grolsch pronounced correctly? Roughly the same as trying to pronounce "grouse" immediately after being punched in the face.
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Nice piece of fish posted:I swear, I can almost read that crap and have it make sense, but it's just outside my grasp. It's infuriating. Like someone writing really really obscure dialect from some fuckin valley in the middle ages. German speaker?
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Meanwhile at Stormont there was a big march   deary me whats all this about then https://twitter.com/skydavidblevins/status/1170126653831503873 yes yes indeed
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kustomkarkommando posted:Meanwhile at Stormont there was a big march There's no fucker in there to see them  I'm sure the security guards and cleaners were very impressed.
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So if Johnson advises the queen to refuse royal assent on the anti-no-deal bill, or if he refuses to ask for an extension at the EU summit, is there still parliamentary time before Brexit day to do anything about it? The idea of Bercow sending Boris to the tower is very funny but I don't for a moment believe it would actually happen if Boris refused to ask for an extension.
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Dead Goon posted:How is Grolsch pronounced correctly? "Heineken" (advice only applies in the Netherlands - I assume the cat's piss they export to us is some sort of retribution for the Anglo-Dutch Wars)
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crispix posted:There's no fucker in there to see them I wonder if the IT guys are still there. The top floor used to be base for the IT for all councils and departments. I was given a tour there in 98, but I heard they were being kicked out as the incoming assembly saw how lavish the IT offices were and wanted them for themselves. Servers were going to be housed in temp rentacabins until a newer place was found from what I heard. Not sure if they did this or not.
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OwlFancier posted:I find it slightly weird that the NI government meets in a building with grounds that look like they were designed by Vauban. You can find that style all over NI and maybe Ireland. When the big landowners constructed their own mansions, they were usually like this, so they could 'look' over their domain. And to make sure those that can see the house know whose in charge.
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marktheando posted:So if Johnson advises the queen to refuse royal assent on the anti-no-deal bill, or if he refuses to ask for an extension at the EU summit, is there still parliamentary time before Brexit day to do anything about it? Parliament comes back on the 14th October, I'm not entirely sure how the FTPA works but in theory if Corbyn got enough support he could become PM after a VONC even if they have to wait until the end of the 14 days "make a new government" period before he's allowed to do prime minister things. This is just about the only way I could see the LDs etc support a temporary Corbyn government and it still seems very doubtful
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Assembly IT still have offices on one of the higher floors (renovated, don't know if it's the top) but the other departments and council's run their own stuff elsewhere afiak (servers are not in rentakabins, lol if they were)
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Sep 7, 2019 19:40
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OwlFancier posted:I find it slightly weird that the NI government meets in a building with grounds that look like they were designed by Vauban. They basically built the parliament building in the grounds of a stately home (known as the Castle because it was redesigned in the late 19th century to look like one) which was previously the official residency of the PM (of NI), then the HQ of the NIO and now houses the Executive office. The actually surrounding estate is pretty big 
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See I have been to so many of those loving country piles that I could have sworn I knew that one. Why is it that all of these drat places look the same.
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Gasmask posted:let's just give northern ireland back to ireland?? We're an economic sinkhole. The South doesn't want us.
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Gasmask posted:let's just give northern ireland back to ireland?? You broke it, you fix it. With loads of napalm preferably.
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Private Speech posted:It exists in some slavic languages too, it's more the romance and perfidious brit languages that have a problem with it. Phonemes are the new patriotism 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Russian companies but yes basically It seems more like some bizarre death wish to me. It really reminds me of the crowds in 1914 rapturously cheering the beginning of WW1 and eagerly lining up at the recruiting offices for the Western Front meatgrinder. It's a symptom of some deep sickness in our society imo.
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Pistol_Pete posted:It seems more like some bizarre death wish to me. It really reminds me of the crowds in 1914 rapturously cheering the beginning of WW1 and eagerly lining up at the recruiting offices for the Western Front meatgrinder. It's because the only action many people know to fill the void within them is violence and the hope that in some way, they will die to. Not all of "them" but the "them" they don't like. The idea of cleansing, of purging of making oneself clean is a big thing for people and one of the only ways that gets channelled is into warfare. Nevermind that violence hurts the wielder too, people just want to go "back" to "before". It's saddening, maddening and dispiriting, but its not all that there is.
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happyhippy posted:You can find that style all over NI and maybe Ireland. And sometimes to make sure we didn't forget the ones what had died, either!  When I was wee when I stayed at my auntie Georgina's house if granny was on night shift, the two aircraft warning lights atop this thing stared right down into the bedroom like a pair of eyes and absolutely loving terrified me because it looked like an evil giant was just watching Gives ye a grand oul' view of the town though, and seeing it come into view from behind hills and clouds when driving home from the airport was one of the best parts of the year for me because it means my holidays had begun and I was home.
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marktheando posted:So if Johnson advises the queen to refuse royal assent on the anti-no-deal bill, or if he refuses to ask for an extension at the EU summit, is there still parliamentary time before Brexit day to do anything about it? I don't think boris gets to ask the queen to say no to something thats passed parliament. Shes certainly not going to get drawn into a constitutional crisis trying. She only agreed to prorogue parliament because that is a thing she can do, and while its immoral for boris to tine it like this he is within his rights to do so. As for the latter, i suspect that if boris refuses to ask himself then as its a passed statute he'll be found in contempt and they'll get someone else to ask unless the law is stupid enough to say that boris will do it as opposed to the government
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