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Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Miniature Market is having an Army Painter "sale" but it includes the strong, dark, and soft tone inks for $1.50.

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Grundma
Mar 26, 2007

DOG controls your destiny. Seek out three items of his favor and then seek his shrine.
Thanks for the heads up, I love the strong tone and have been using a ton of it on buildings lately

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

XPostin from the 40k thread.

Cooked Auto posted:




Done over about a weeks time or so. Possibly two. Didn’t really keep track of things. Unlike last time around this has some of the best edge highlights I’ve done in a while, having sharp corners (and good flowy paint) helps a lot. Even if there’s some smearing here and there.
First time I’ve used transfers in a very long time and it ended up pretty well. Did help I cut it out pretty close.

The lessons learned from this is that if I’m ever building another Armiger is that I’m going to magnetize the connection between the body and legs because that thing is not stable at all. Probably not meant to stay unglued.
Oh and base with metal primer next time around.

Still a neat kit. But I do wish I could swap one of the arms out for the chainsword or some other melee weapon. And also use one of the head swaps available on Shapeways.

Base will be unfinished until I get my hands on Mordant Earth.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Grundma posted:

Thanks for the heads up, I love the strong tone and have been using a ton of it on buildings lately

They need to start selling Strong Tone in 200ml bottles.

(no, dip cans don't count)

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!

Cat Face Joe posted:

Miniature Market is having an Army Painter "sale" but it includes the strong, dark, and soft tone inks for $1.50.

Thanks for this! I grabbed some AP paints I didn't have already, along with extra bottles of the aforementioned inks.

VoodooXT
Feb 24, 2006
I want Tong Po! Give me Tong Po!
How are Army Painter paints? I’ve only used their inks but never their paints.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

VoodooXT posted:

How are Army Painter paints? I’ve only used their inks but never their paints.

Nothing to write home about.

Their wash/inks are some of the best in the business, tho.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

VoodooXT posted:

How are Army Painter paints? I’ve only used their inks but never their paints.

Some colors are the equal of or better than citadel equivalents but a lot are not as good. Still usable but you definitely want to put agitators in their bottles and I had a bottle of Alien Purple solidify into goop after only one use and a couple of days.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
My general approach is Vallejo paints, Army Painter washes, and Liquitex inks.

KING OV HELL
Apr 2, 2014
Been making steady progress here and there on the multitude of plastic shame I own, and taking bad pictures to prove it! Pay no attention to my attempt at caution stripes, merely bask in the cheeto dust basecoat



JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

KING OV HELL posted:

Been making steady progress here and there on the multitude of plastic shame I own, and taking bad pictures to prove it! Pay no attention to my attempt at caution stripes, merely bask in the cheeto dust basecoat





That orange is rad.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Cheetos Marines.

Lookin good though.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

My general approach is Vallejo paints, Army Painter washes, and Liquitex inks.

What's your opinion on Vallejo's metallics? I've been using some of the Game Color metallics, and I find I don't care for them, but it occurs to me that I might not be thinning them properly.

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
Vallejo Metal Color is (apparently) one of the best metallic ranges out there. I probably wouldn't bother with VGC metallics, personally.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Avenging Dentist posted:

Vallejo Metal Color is (apparently) one of the best metallic ranges out there. I probably wouldn't bother with VGC metallics, personally.

I bought metal color this week and it's miles ahead of anything else. Have run some pale burnt metal through the airbrush and applied with brush, it's amazing.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
I really like the Mr Metal Color line of metallics from Mr Hobby. A little hard to find, but they brush on great, airbrush even better, and they're buffable after they dry.

This was part of a project I did a while back, and I think they look drat good for brush application.


Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

JBP posted:

I bought metal color this week and it's miles ahead of anything else. Have run some pale burnt metal through the airbrush and applied with brush, it's amazing.

I guess there's also Vallejo Liquid Gold, which I've heard works phenomenally. With Liquid Gold, though, you have to thin it with paint thinner or something, because it contains actual metal flakes, and water rusts/ruins the paint. I haven't tried it, but if I ever get to the point of doing Adeptus Custodes, I'd want to try it.

Can Metal Color be thinned with water? Also, how well does it work with a brush? The website description makes it sound like it's only intended to be used with an airbrush, which I don't have.

Also, how do Citadel metallics hold up in general? I think the only metallic I have is Retributor Armor, but it seems to work pretty well.


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I really like the Mr Metal Color line of metallics from Mr Hobby. A little hard to find, but they brush on great, airbrush even better, and they're buffable after they dry.

This was part of a project I did a while back, and I think they look drat good for brush application.




That looks really good! :eyepop: I looked it up, and the polishing effect seems really neat, though maybe difficult to do if applied to minis. It looks like you can get it from Hobbyworld USA.

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Sep 7, 2019

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Max Wilco posted:

I guess there's also Vallejo Liquid Gold, which I've heard works phenomenally. With Liquid Gold, though, you have to thin it with paint thinner or something, because it contains actual metal flakes, and water rusts/ruins the paint. I haven't tried it, but if I ever get to the point of doing Adeptus Custodes, I'd want to try it.

Can Metal Color be thinned with water? Also, how well does it work with a brush? The website description makes it sound like it's only intended to be used with an airbrush, which I don't have.

Also, how do Citadel metallics hold up in general? I think the only metallic I have is Retributor Armor, but it seems to work pretty well.

I've thinned metal color with water and applied it by brush. It's great, no issues at all.

The "base" citadel metals are good imo. The higher brightness ones are lovely.

Badablack
Apr 17, 2018
Metal color can be thinned with water but you probably wouldn’t ever need to, it’s very thin as is. It’s fine with a brush, though you’ll have to be careful of overloading your brush due to its aforementioned thinness.

As far as citadel metals, all the stuff in pots with a white top are excellent with some new formula. Other metals can be hit or miss, someone else can go into the specifics of the goods and the bads.

Liquid gold has to be thinned with alcohol, needs fresh alcohol constantly applied to keep it from drying out on a palette, and is generally a huge pain in the rear end but it gives amazing results.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
My bottles of vallejo metal colour leak like the clappers though I have no idea why. Anyone else get this with theirs?

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
So after using Army Painter Quickshade Wash Mixing Medium for a while, I used it recently and discovered that it was really thick and white (heh...), so that when I mixed it with a tone or wash it made it really cloudy and also went on kind of lumpy. I thought my bottle had just gone off, but then I ordered another and it's doing basically the same thing. I feel like I'm going crazy, because I remember that first bottle working well before, but now the results look drastically different when compared with earlier minis I used it on... Has this happened to anyone else?

Also, what are you best recommendations for other mediums or flow improver to use with AP washes?

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
You've been shaking that sucker thoroughly before use right?

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
Yep, and it doesn't make a difference. In fact, shaking actually makes it more homogeneously white, instead of mixed clear and white :/

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
So since the Warstore is dead, does anyone have any recommendations for US-based online shops that sell Vallejo paints? (Mainly Model Color, though I use bits of their other ranges here and there.) Bonus points if the website isn't infuriating to navigate when all I want is to pick up some specific individual bottles by looking up their product code.

darnon
Nov 8, 2009
Miniature Market has a pretty huge selection of Vallejo.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Avenging Dentist posted:

So since the Warstore is dead, does anyone have any recommendations for US-based online shops that sell Vallejo paints? (Mainly Model Color, though I use bits of their other ranges here and there.) Bonus points if the website isn't infuriating to navigate when all I want is to pick up some specific individual bottles by looking up their product code.

https://www.michtoy.com/series-Vallejo.html

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
Cool, Miniature Market looks like they have pretty good discounts, and Michtoy should be a good backup if anything is out of stock at MM. Thanks!

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

MeinPanzer posted:

Has this happened to anyone else?


That sounds really hosed up. I haven't had that happen with quick shade mixing medium and their washes, myself.

Are you conditioning your brushes with something that's reacting with the medium/wash?

Is your water non-potable?


I know that sounds insane, but I have zero idea why that would be happening. Other than you somehow got 2 bad bottles of QSMM

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

MeinPanzer posted:

So after using Army Painter Quickshade Wash Mixing Medium for a while, I used it recently and discovered that it was really thick and white (heh...), so that when I mixed it with a tone or wash it made it really cloudy and also went on kind of lumpy. I thought my bottle had just gone off, but then I ordered another and it's doing basically the same thing. I feel like I'm going crazy, because I remember that first bottle working well before, but now the results look drastically different when compared with earlier minis I used it on... Has this happened to anyone else?

Also, what are you best recommendations for other mediums or flow improver to use with AP washes?

An chance it's a change in your local weather causing the issue? Paints/mediums can react very differently during hot and humid periods than during colder months. If your local weather has a sudden change one way or the other, it could be causing the mixing medium to react.

Saying that, have you tried any other mediums to see if they will thin your quickshade? Maybe a do a few small spot tests with some Lahmian medium, or airbrush thinner/medium from companies like Vallejo, Golden, or Liquitex.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Avenging Dentist posted:

So since the Warstore is dead, does anyone have any recommendations for US-based online shops that sell Vallejo paints? (Mainly Model Color, though I use bits of their other ranges here and there.) Bonus points if the website isn't infuriating to navigate when all I want is to pick up some specific individual bottles by looking up their product code.

Why did the War Store close? I never ordered anything from them. Were they a good site?

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Max Wilco posted:

Why did the War Store close? I never ordered anything from them. Were they a good site?

They were good. They hired some people on work release from prison (iirc) who ended up defrauding them to the point they could no longer stay in business.

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
It should be noted that said people were child molesters, and all the theft ultimately got found out after the WarStore owner's adult son found child porn on a thumb drive: https://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2017/12/sex-offenders-hired-through-church-program-allegedly-stole-from-southold-employer/. I didn't realize that was what led to the closure of the store though.

WarStore was good, although the site was pretty old-school and I think they updated inventory manually so sometimes you ended up with a big delay if an item just went out of stock.

Avenging Dentist fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Sep 8, 2019

Beffer
Sep 25, 2007
This is not the first time I’ve heard this story but it never fails to amaze. It is the most Trad Games thing of all time.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
It's the grognard's campfire tale now, unbelievable stuff.

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

MeinPanzer posted:

So after using Army Painter Quickshade Wash Mixing Medium for a while, I used it recently and discovered that it was really thick and white (heh...), so that when I mixed it with a tone or wash it made it really cloudy and also went on kind of lumpy. I thought my bottle had just gone off, but then I ordered another and it's doing basically the same thing. I feel like I'm going crazy, because I remember that first bottle working well before, but now the results look drastically different when compared with earlier minis I used it on... Has this happened to anyone else?

Also, what are you best recommendations for other mediums or flow improver to use with AP washes?

Are you 100% certain you have a bottle of 'quickshade mixing medium' rather than 'warpaints mixing medium' ?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

See you gold cowboy...

R0ckfish
Nov 18, 2013
So I finished*, a set of tac marines for Salamanders test models, to see if I can improve/speed up my scheme from years ago.



* Pending transfers whenever the supplement releases

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Avenging Dentist posted:

It should be noted that said people were child molesters, and all the theft ultimately got found out after the WarStore owner's adult son found child porn on a thumb drive: https://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2017/12/sex-offenders-hired-through-church-program-allegedly-stole-from-southold-employer/. I didn't realize that was what led to the closure of the store though.

WarStore was good, although the site was pretty old-school and I think they updated inventory manually so sometimes you ended up with a big delay if an item just went out of stock.

Oh poo poo, I saw they were closing but assumed it was just typical business stuff. No idea all this was behind it, that's really lovely and horrible for Neal. :( He ran a good store and I was always happy when I bought things through them, it really sucks he got sunk trying to help people out.

The article says that he lost something between $100-$200k in theft. I'm guessing it was a typical small business situation where the inventory was not closely kept and tracked and they were able to steadily swipe stuff out from under him.

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth

Avenging Dentist posted:

It should be noted that said people were child molesters, and all the theft ultimately got found out after the WarStore owner's adult son found child porn on a thumb drive: https://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2017/12/sex-offenders-hired-through-church-program-allegedly-stole-from-southold-employer/. I didn't realize that was what led to the closure of the store though.

WarStore was good, although the site was pretty old-school and I think they updated inventory manually so sometimes you ended up with a big delay if an item just went out of stock.

My favorite part:

quote:

Federal Elections Commission filings show Mr. Wolm identified himself as the internet sales manager at thewarstore.com in a series of donations to Sen. Ted Cruz’s presidential campaign.

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TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

R0ckfish posted:

So I finished*, a set of tac marines for Salamanders test models, to see if I can improve/speed up my scheme from years ago.



* Pending transfers whenever the supplement releases

very cool and good

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