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Borrovan posted:Will try but I can't actually get on the Court of Session website to access the judgment atm, looks like half the country's trying to access it. hmu if there's anything specific you want to know (bearing in mind I'm an English academic contract lawyer, I only teach a little bit of constitutional law & know gently caress all about Scots law), or I'll try and access it again in a bit & give you a summary. You should post in the lawyer thread, there's never anyone around when we scratch our heads over powdered wig law. To be fair that's not often. But the less americans the better, as I always say. poo poo uh: 179 years ago, Great Britain started the first opium war with China, ending in British victory and the treaty of Nanking. Nice piece of fish fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Ash Crimson posted:Is there a chance the UK could break up if the scottish decision is ignored/overruled? Directly, no. Increased support for independence? I'd assume so.
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Ash Crimson posted:It's a reasonable question though You are a sea lion in a see you jimmy hat and I claim my five pounds
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Was today the day Yellowhammer documents were meant to be released? What's happening with that?
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Niric posted:This is cool and I had no idea! But what is it with modernists and cats? I think toxoplasmosis is the link there Jim Davis is the greatest modernist writer of our age
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Nice piece of fish posted:You should post in the lawyer thread, there's never anyone around when we scratch our heads over powdered wig law. To be fair that's not often. But the less americans the better, as I always say. fewer
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What’s the timeframe for the supreme court now?
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Sanford posted:Was today the day Yellowhammer documents were meant to be released? What's happening with that? Government is too busy hiding from citizen arrests to provide the documents. Priorities, you know.
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United Ireland and Scotland? Gaelic Union?
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Maybe Boris' plan is to try and revoke the act of union so parliament only has to be bound by English law.
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Guavanaut posted:Almost as Scottish as deep frying your computer.  Pictured, a modernist moggie: 
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Mokotow posted:What’s the timeframe for the supreme court now? Decision next Tuesday apparently.
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Mokotow posted:What’s the timeframe for the supreme court now? Tuesday, but Miller's case has to lose first.
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Gasmask posted:fewer Yes. But also in so many ways lesser
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Sanford posted:Was today the day Yellowhammer documents were meant to be released? What's happening with that? Boris decided not to follow the law.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Is there a technical difference between doing something unlawful and breaking the law? It seems like the second one gets you like a punishment of some kind whereas the first...?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is there a technical difference between doing something unlawful and breaking the law? It seems like the second one gets you like a punishment of some kind whereas the first...? I ANAL but I think a key difference to normal people breaking laws is that the laws Boris is breaking don't have a "if you don't follow this law you will be thrown in the dungeon for 3-10 years" part.
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suck my woke dick posted:I ANAL 
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Gasmask posted:fewer nah
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Gasmask posted:fewer I barely even know 'er!
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Sanford posted:Was today the day Yellowhammer documents were meant to be released? What's happening with that? the deadline is 11pm
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I thought I'd come up with this, then found other people on the twitters had done it 30+ mins before me Parliament is Prorogued Parliament is not Prorogued This is Schrödinger's parliament.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is there a technical difference between doing something unlawful and breaking the law? It seems like the second one gets you like a punishment of some kind whereas the first...? Not sure about Scots Law but I'm fairly sure that Nicola Sturgeon hasn't overturned the general principle of no crime without a statute.
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PST posted:I thought I'd come up with this, then found other people on the twitters had done it 30+ mins before me For gently caress's sake, I thought we were taking back control from the Germans.
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Guavanaut posted:(This is muddied a bit by the fact that judges can and do make up laws on the fly if you end up in court, but they shouldn't.) This is interesting - do you have some examples?
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PST posted:I thought I'd come up with this, then found other people on the twitters had done it 30+ mins before me And much like the pratchettian version of that thought experiment "bloody furious" is also a possible outcome.
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sebzilla posted:For gently caress's sake, I thought we were taking back control from the Germans. That's a container I'm not going to open.
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Is the distinction something like Illegal: doing something forbidden by law Unlawful: doing something not permitted by law You're not allowed to do that vs you haven't been allowed to do that
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Guavanaut posted:I can't see how there could be under the basics of English Common Law, one of the key principles is that everything which is not forbidden is allowed, unless there's a law against something you can do it, so to be doing something unlawful you'd have to be breaking the law. (This is muddied a bit by the fact that judges can and do make up laws on the fly if you end up in court, but they shouldn't.) Parking offences are unlawful, but not criminal. In the UK there's everything in criminal justice acts (which are illegal), and then everything else which has been proscribed, without being a crime, or limited, etc. (which would be unlawful). This crosses over to civil law back and forth. Not paying my water bill is unlawful, but not a crime Not paying my TV License (if I am watching broadcast television) is a crime (because bleurgh)
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Gort posted:This is interesting - do you have some examples? The canonical one is murder, what is and isn't murder isn't decided by any statute but by the precedent of a collective of judicial decisions, but we've decided that's generally working, but this case was a judge doing some sort of rear end-pull rather than something that we all generally go along with. e: ^^^ Yeah, but to be unlawful there has to be some sort of law pertaining, even if it's not necessarily a crime. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/hilarybennmp/status/1171750159056801792 here was the last time it was done 
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WHEREAS parliament stands prorogued for the next five weeks, and whereas the court has informed me that boris is a loving moron, get your arses back in the building and do something about it, love brenda.
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OwlFancier posted:WHEREAS parliament stands prorogued for the next five weeks, and whereas the court has informed me that boris is a loving moron, get your arses back in the building and do something about it, love brenda. P.S. stop brexit for one
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I don't think the queen gives a poo poo about brexit but she's probably very much annoyed at boris right now for making her look stupid.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:whats watson been up to? i missed it Jose posted:Said he'd refuse to let the party have an election before a referendum And he's hosed it up royally by thinking that 1) Nothing else would happen today and 2) By even losing gently caress centerists over this. It really is one of those things that makes no sense unless you are trying to get in the papers and even they have forgotten about you today. It's pathetic, self-serving and makes him look fundamentally unserious on Brexit.
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Ratjaculation posted:United Ireland and Scotland? Just for the Rangers fans I think it should be the Celtic Union. Pronounced with a hard c but it'll still have them fuming.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't think the queen gives a poo poo about brexit but she's probably very much annoyed at boris right now for making her look stupid. Statistically she is probably in favour of brexit as shes rich, white and old.
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OwlFancier posted:Doesn't that require Wales and Brittany? And Cornwall, right?
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OrthoTrot posted:Statistically she is probably in favour of brexit as shes rich, white and old. nah, she is part of the generation that actually went through the war. They loving love the EU as they know what's is meant to be for.
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