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tylersayten posted:But nobody is denying this though? The new part is the ample amount of evidence detailing billionaires, millionaires, and intelligence agencies organizing and maintaining child rape sex operations with the explicit goal of blackmailing each other in order to maintain the current capitalist status quo of the last 60 + years? They're probably just upset about their faves getting implicated :/
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Helsing posted:The fasc adjacent narrative this thread is getting hooked on about how every rich person is basically a space alien obscures the fact that almost every business owner, parent, community leader, manager and landlord is also potentially in a position to leverage their social power for coerced sex. Most rapes are committed by someone in the family of the victim not a billionaire on a topical island. Let's not obscure the very real and human face of sexual violence by projecting it onto some Otherized boogyman. yes, we're fash adjacent for highlighting the billionaire satanist child rape and sacrifice to moloch cult
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Helsing posted:The fasc adjacent narrative this thread is getting hooked on about how every rich person is basically a space alien obscures the fact that almost every business owner, parent, community leader, manager and landlord is also potentially in a position to leverage their social power for coerced sex. Most rapes are committed by someone in the family of the victim not a billionaire on a topical island. Let's not obscure the very real and human face of sexual violence by projecting it onto some Otherized boogyman. I hear you but those people were never elevated to being paragons of capitalist virtue for their philanthropy and business acumen like the mega millionaires and billionaires.
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Serf posted:yes, we're fash adjacent for highlighting the billionaire satanist child rape and sacrifice to moloch cult
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Big Mackson posted:you can only have 7 GM pedophile related skills. You can drop one of those down to 70 and have it not count toward the pedophile cap
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Serf posted:yes, we're fash adjacent for highlighting the billionaire satanist child rape and sacrifice to moloch cult
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Ytlaya posted:This part basically confirms what Citations Needed was saying about Bill Gates on their episode about him: a foundation is a great way to not pay taxes on a bunch of money while still controlling what happens to it
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Serf posted:yes, we're fash adjacent for highlighting the billionaire satanist child rape and sacrifice to moloch cult It is literally a variation on the pizza-gate conspiracy theory that is a signature belief of the alt-right so yes, whether or not it is true it is fasc adjacent in the most literal sense. tylersayten posted:But nobody is denying this though? The new part is the ample amount of evidence detailing billionaires, millionaires, and intelligence agencies organizing and maintaining child rape sex operations with the explicit goal of blackmailing each other in order to maintain the current capitalist status quo of the last 60 + years? What we have is a lot of evidence of a government sanctioned child sex trafficking ring with sprawling connections to elite philanthropy and American / Israeli intelligence. How we interpret that information and what political implications we think it has are a more open question. Since the media's attempt to convince the public that Epstein committed suicide was incredibly ineffective the greatest danger right now is that the only people trying to raise awareness of the details of the Epstein scandal end up sounding like Pizzagaters.
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Helsing posted:It is literally a variation on the pizza-gate conspiracy theory that is a signature belief of the alt-right so yes, whether or not it is true it is fasc adjacent in the most literal sense. are you in the running for the idiot awards, or is this just for fun?
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Helsing posted:It is literally a variation on the pizza-gate conspiracy theory that is a signature belief of the alt-right so yes, whether or not it is true it is fasc adjacent in the most literal sense. hmm yes it would be a shame if epstein people were compared to the psyop designed to discredit attempts to investigate a global pedophile ring
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getting mixed messages here...so we should look into the global paedo network of elites but we should also be aware that doing so is pretty fascist. nevertheless we should dig the dirt but only if we first agree not to share what we find in case we look like q chuds...
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i think the most foolish mistake of people itt is thinking that there's only one cabal and not several competing ones
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Al! posted:i think the most foolish mistake of people itt is thinking that there's only one cabal and not several competing ones I've been thinking about this and wondering what the kgb/fsb cabal is like. Also, Epstein was into girls. There's probably a boy cabal, cabal lite, tartar control cabal...
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it seems to me the japanese cabal operates in the light of day, i've ready horrifying poo poo about their av idol industry, chances are if you have seen japanese porno you have probably seen a real rape at some point edit: actually let's be real if you have seen any porn you have seen a real assault at slme point and not realised gh0stpinballa has issued a correction as of 21:22 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:getting mixed messages here...so we should look into the global paedo network of elites but we should also be aware that doing so is pretty fascist. nevertheless we should dig the dirt but only if we first agree not to share what we find in case we look like q chuds... We should be aware that there's a ready-made fascist narrative ready and eager to adsorb and neuter anything that is uncovered and do our best to avoid falling into that trap. One way of doing that is to focus on a materialist analysis and to be wary about slipping into modes of thought that downplay systemic forces in favour of individualist ones. Al! posted:i think the most foolish mistake of people itt is thinking that there's only one cabal and not several competing ones Even referring to "cabals" may be presuming a greater degree of coherency and order within high level elite politics than actually exists. Are there durable long lasting coalitions with clearly defined insiders and outsiders or is it an endlessly complicated shifting mosaic of individual relationships that don't cleanly map onto any larger organizational schema? Are there literal secret societies where you're inducted via unspeakable crimes and rituals or just a lot of bilateral relationships between powerful people that over time become so dense and interlayered that they approximate a vast conspiracy? Is this a relatively recent development or does this go back centuries? Do we need to start dusting off Carol Quigly's writings on the Round Table movement? The frustrating part is definitive answers to these questions will probably never present themselves and we're left interpreting shadows on the wall of the cave. At the very least though I think it is safe to say that we probably wouldn't be learning anything about this and Epstein probably wouldn't have been arrested in the first place if there wasn't some kind of high level elite conflict going on behind the scenes. What, for instance, is the role of the Murdoch owned press and why have they been so central to the reporting on what happened? Why did the SDNY prosecutors decide now was the time to move against Epstein? What was Epstein's relationship with the FBI? etc.
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I'm glad another alleged pedophile poster has stepped forward to carry the banner of the pedophile elite and cia (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Helsing posted:We should be aware that there's a ready-made fascist narrative ready and eager to adsorb and neuter anything that is uncovered and do our best to avoid falling into that trap. One way of doing that is to focus on a materialist analysis and to be wary about slipping into modes of thought that downplay systemic forces in favour of individualist ones. see this isn't fash adjacent its just moronical
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Helsing posted:We should be aware that there's a ready-made fascist narrative ready and eager to.. 
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Mr Hootington posted:I'm glad another alleged pedophile poster has stepped forward to carry the banner of the pedophile elite and cia this isn't healthy
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Helsing posted:We should be aware that there's a ready-made fascist narrative ready and eager to adsorb and neuter anything that is uncovered and do our best to avoid falling into that trap. One way of doing that is to focus on a materialist analysis and to be wary about slipping into modes of thought that downplay systemic forces in favour of individualist ones. huh what? oh I know this game, source your quotes you clever man
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Helsing posted:Even referring to "cabals" may be presuming a greater degree of coherency and order within high level elite politics than actually exists. Are there durable long lasting coalitions with clearly defined insiders and outsiders or is it an endlessly complicated shifting mosaic of individual relationships that don't cleanly map onto any larger organizational schema? Are there literal secret societies where you're inducted via unspeakable crimes and rituals or just a lot of bilateral relationships between powerful people that over time become so dense and interlayered that they approximate a vast conspiracy? Is this a relatively recent development or does this go back centuries? Do we need to start dusting off Carol Quigly's writings on the Round Table movement? The frustrating part is definitive answers to these questions will probably never present themselves and we're left interpreting shadows on the wall of the cave. Thing is, we don't I actually need to give a poo poo about this. We already have "there's a network of powerful pedophiles who are being protected and enabled by basically everyone who makes seven figures or more", we can fit in whatever narrative we want.
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Helsing posted:Even referring to "cabals" may be presuming a greater degree of coherency and order within high level elite politics than actually exists. Are there durable long lasting coalitions with clearly defined insiders and outsiders or is it an endlessly complicated shifting mosaic of individual relationships that don't cleanly map onto any larger organizational schema? Are there literal secret societies where you're inducted via unspeakable crimes and rituals or just a lot of bilateral relationships between powerful people that over time become so dense and interlayered that they approximate a vast conspiracy? Is this a relatively recent development or does this go back centuries? Do we need to start dusting off Carol Quigly's writings on the Round Table movement? The frustrating part is definitive answers to these questions will probably never present themselves and we're left interpreting shadows on the wall of the cave. Intelligence agencies are involved, and they're bureaucratic, so to me that's a pretty good reason to assume these things are formally codified as operations, because that's how you stake out your turf and keep your job in a bureaucracy. Intelligence agencies would also tend to want to force such operations into some kind of organized form, because the alternative as you're describing is chaos where nobody knows what's going on, the opposite of the mission of "intelligence".
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gh0stpinballa posted:it seems to me the japanese cabal operates in the light of day, i've ready horrifying poo poo about their av idol industry, chances are if you have seen japanese porno you have probably seen a real rape at some point paging andrea dworkin, angry ghost of andrea dworkin please report to the Epstein thread
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Dr. Killjoy posted:qanon for one!  Is that what you are worried about Helsing? Being lumped in with Q truthers? lol
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an organized conspiracy to rape boys would definitely include the catholic church, various universities, and las vegas concierge services
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sleeptalker posted:Intelligence agencies are involved, and they're bureaucratic, so to me that's a pretty good reason to assume these things are formally codified as operations, because that's how you stake out your turf and keep your job in a bureaucracy. American intelligence agencies are full of byzantine office politics and bureaucratic empire building, and many of their most significant operations are conducted at arms length with minimal oversight, so I wouldn't assume that just because they are involved in this there must be some underlying coherence. Perhaps the model to look to here are the oligarchic conflicts that afflicted 1990s Russia in which you'd have rival billionaires both assassinating each other and also attacking each other in the press by leaking compromising information on each other's business and personal affairs. The main difference here being that the Russian oligarchs were unsophisticated nouveau riche squabbling over table scraps whereas the people who killed Epstein are presumably integrated into the most powerful ruling elite in world history.
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Johnny Red posted:this isn't healthy sounds like something a pedophile would say 
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StashAugustine posted:paging andrea dworkin, angry ghost of andrea dworkin please report to the Epstein thread increasingly compelled by her theories since last month tbh. the smut lover's fantasies aren't harmless, they are grist for the CIA kiddy mill. every porn merchant has peddled a kindertape at some point, due to the proliferation/normalisation of paedoplay via "role play" vids on "legitimate" porn sites. every click on a porn site is therefore a click in favour of the cabal, who own the internet, so i'll be goddamned if anyone is going to talk that sex positivity mess to my face after all this. we must crash the porn servers as part of our ruthless efforts to overthrow the pedophocracy.
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sleeptalker posted:Burning the Amazon is a cover for destroying the evidence of the jungle base.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Don't forget Boys Town!  lol
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gh0stpinballa posted:increasingly compelled by her theories since last month tbh. the smut lover's fantasies aren't harmless, they are grist for the CIA kiddy mill. every porn merchant has peddled a kindertape at some point, due to the proliferation/normalisation of paedoplay via "role play" vids on "legitimate" porn sites. every click on a porn site is therefore a click in favour of the cabal, who own the internet, so i'll be goddamned if anyone is going to talk that sex positivity mess to my face after all this. We need to shut down heterosexuality until we figure out what the hell is going on
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StashAugustine posted:We need to shut down heterosexuality until we figure out what the hell is going on hell yes, shut it all down
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comedyblissoption posted:an organized conspiracy to rape boys would definitely include the catholic church, various universities, and las vegas concierge services and the state of pennsylvania
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