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nerdz posted:yeah when everyone was united in hating muslim citizens drat, David was a loving burn master at 13.
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You will find that it is we who are owned. https://twitter.com/josh_hammer/status/1172337472090456064 
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Data Graham posted:For real, I want someone to frame billionaire-ism in terms of how much of THE ENTIRE loving NATIONAL BUDGET they could pay for. Individually? Not much. A billion dollars is a ludicrous amount of money for an individual to have, but the US federal budget is in the trillions.
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I absolutely don't blame her. I've had toxic jobs where I'm still thankful for the money I got paid.
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Tiggum posted:Individually? Not much. A billion dollars is a ludicrous amount of money for an individual to have, but the US federal budget is in the trillions.  Iunno, seems like we're in spitting distance
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Skwirl posted:I absolutely don't blame her. I've had toxic jobs where I'm still thankful for the money I got paid. You have a product, your ability to sexually satisfy rich ugly men, you get proceeds from the sale of that product, reinvest in the product and make more money. Basic business transaction.
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Data Graham posted:
I'm genuinely curious if you understand why what you just said is stupid. Do you understand the difference between net worth and a yearly budget?
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Patrick Spens posted:I'm genuinely curious if you understand why what you just said is stupid. Do you understand the difference between net worth and a yearly budget? Fine, fair enough I understand that golden egg laying goose was real tasty though Data Graham has a new favorite as of 04:31 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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Data Graham posted:
Again, it is ludicrous for one individual to have a billion dollars. For a single human that is an insane amount of money. But trying to compare individual wealth to national spending is pointless and absurd. They're just not on the same scale and they're not even the same type of information.
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Tiggum posted:If they were all able to liquidate all their assets for their full value and we added them all together they're still well over a trillion dollars short of paying for the national budget for a single year. Also a lot of the typical billionaire's net worth isn't cash. It's in stocks and property. Even if you were to throw Jeff Bezos in prison and sell all of his stocks, houses, sports cars, private planes, etc. to put the money back into the government, you'd need people willing to pay the price they're worth to actually get the nominal value out of it (simply printing huge amounts of money to pay for stuff tends to have an....adverse effect). Estimates of his cash reserve have it at less than $20 million. Even if you were to lock up every billionaire and make them pay for every social service, you'd hit insurmountable hurdles trying to get the money out of it.
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This is like when people point out how Elon Musk is worth X amounts of billions due to his Tesla stock. But If he tried to sell off all his Tesla stocks he wouldn't get a fraction of that for any number of reasons. Theranos had a theoretical net worth of what? 9 billion? without ever having sold anything. But who would have forked up that in cash to buy it? Netscape was at one point worth 3 billion and all they did was put out a free browser. And all of this in comparison to how much real money the US government spends on any given year. What's the net worth of the US government? All the money in the world times 10?
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I mean, cash doesn't actually matter as much as, say, all their land and their property and their delicious, delicious other means of production. Imagine if Amazon became a goods distribution system for a socialist state, or even better for a communist society. Setting the rent for vast swaths of the US housing system to $0. We don't even really need to go after the millionaire landlords and below at that point, you can't beat free and actually maintained. Water, electricity, healthcare, weed, gigabit internet guaranteed as an irreducible minimum, libraries of tools, of recreational equipment, of fancy yachts, of whatever the gently caress you want. Actual dollars in a computer or written on cotton has always been a method of restricting goods and services to the rich, and hasn't equalled anything relating to overall goods or service capacity ever since some jerk invented lying. Everyone deserves a free (weekend or two on a) yacht.
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T-man posted:I mean, cash doesn't actually matter as much as, say, all their land and their property and their delicious, delicious other means of production. Imagine if Amazon became a goods distribution system for a socialist state, or even better for a communist society. Precisely what about actually existing communists or socialists makes you think they would be capable of organizing said goods distribution system?
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it's not like jeff bezos personally directs every shipment. when you nationalise a company the point is to use the existing infrastructure first the public good.
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Patrick Spens posted:Precisely what about actually existing communists or socialists makes you think they would be capable of organizing said goods distribution system? What makes the current organisation structure acceptable to you?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You will find that it is we who are owned.
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Somfin posted:What makes the current organisation structure acceptable to you? There's lots of things wrong with capitalism, but none of it's problems make, "amazon, but communist" any less of a sad joke.
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Patrick Spens posted:Precisely what about actually existing communists or socialists makes you think they would be capable of organizing said goods distribution system? The US postal service seems pretty good speaking as someone from outside the country. Cheap because of big subsidies right?
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The IOSM is me for not owning this
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Arbitrary Number posted:The US postal service seems pretty good speaking as someone from outside the country. Cheap because of big subsidies right? Big fan of stuff never being delivered I take it.
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See, the anecdotal efficacy of the delivery services is just that, anecdotal. You obviously have had poor experiences with them, whereas I have had wonderful experiences and consider them to be the best by far.
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Sep 13, 2019 08:31
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I've had vastly more problems with private shipping services than I've ever had with the US post office including the time Fed Ex just completely fuckin lost a Christmas gift I then had to scramble to replace a week before Christmas.
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In my experience USPS doesn’t pull the classic FedEx trick of slapping “sorry we missed you” tags on your door for three days and then making you go pick it up. I was home for all three “attempted” deliveries. They didn’t even knock.
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Arbitrary Number posted:The US postal service seems pretty good speaking as someone from outside the country. Cheap because of big subsidies right? Quite the opposite, it more than pays for itself. They'd be flush with spare funding for infrastructure and whatnot except they were forced to start saving for pensions for future employees during the W admin.
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https://twitter.com/WerewolfMoms/status/1172255470058377223 Mmmm, shocking.
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Kai Tave posted:I've had vastly more problems with private shipping services than I've ever had with the US post office including the time Fed Ex just completely fuckin lost a Christmas gift I then had to scramble to replace a week before Christmas. Man seconding this. FedEx has lost a total of four of my packages, totalling about 1200$. I'd call them and they just gave me the run around. My apartment maintenance guy ended up finding one of the packages and said it was left in front of an abandoned apartment building. I don't even know. USPS on the other hand, has never given me an issue. They drop it off, knock on my door, and then just head out. Often they're earlier than I expect too.
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That Eternal Empire sure had a lot of different languages in it, and different cultures and ethnic groups and everything. A kind of balkanization, if you will
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https://twitter.com/ARKloster/status/1172345407931895810 e;fb chitoryu12 has a new favorite as of 14:28 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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What the gently caress is this imperium of man poo poo
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Brawnfire posted:What the gently caress is this imperium of man poo poo He means white people OP I wonder if he's ever considered where the phrase "Latin America" comes from...
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EL BROMANCE posted:Big fan of stuff never being delivered I take it. I live in Canada, and it's literally cheaper to use USPS to mail a book to Hawaii, then it is for Canada Post to deliver it next door.
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Yeah, gently caress FedEx, I've had them pull the "sorry you weren't at home  "-thing three times in a row, over two weeks, and every single time I had to call them up and fight with their phone support for a new delivery date where, mysteriously, the delivery person actually remembered to ring the doorbell.
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PurpleXVI posted:Yeah, gently caress FedEx, I've had them pull the "sorry you weren't at home That's because they're a privately owned company with a profit model which depends on internally metrics which are theoretically barely possible for their drivers to make while performing their obs possibly but in practice actually impossible to make, and they underpay drivers significantly and threaten them with discipline if they don't hit the impossible delivery metrics. The driver who just hucks the package and says "gently caress it" is probably doing it because the company's job description and policy forces him to upon threat of losing his job, but then when you get pissed off, the company blames the driver.
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So Shane Gillis got hired for SNL and was immediately found to have been making a lot of awful racist rants for "comedy." https://twitter.com/Shanemgillis/status/1172340437752807424
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