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Unkempt posted:I haven't had a haircut since 1989. Hello comrade. The last time you had a haircut I didn't even exist yet.
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Borrovan posted:Very fond memories of playing that game on the PS1 in student halls (in loving 2005 lol), passing the controller on the left hand side is a great way to remind people that there's something else they're supposed to pass  unwantedplatypus posted:People are allowed to seek spiritual/personal help, if they want it.
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Worms is the best because it's just a constant parade of getting cocky and eating poo poo as a result while that one person actually good at the game wrecks you all. Whomst else remembers the bug on the original PC Worms where if you hit F1 (hotkey for the bazooka) exactly quickly enough after pressing fire with a minigun equipped, it would fire out like 20 rockets? Because that was the best thing in my life before I got topped in bed.
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Miftan posted:Hello comrade. The last time you had a haircut I didn't even exist yet. Does this mean if they have a haircut you'll cease to exist?
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This post is violence.
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Guavanaut posted:Their exams What's the difference between aggressive monetization and just, like, being a self-help author?
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Haven't read the last couple of pages, so sorry if i've missed anything, i'll catch up shortly, but here is episode 3! I listened to this on the way in to work and I was glad of traffic because it meant I had a longer journey! You are all ace on it and goodness you reminded me of some of the things that make me detest the tories! Excellent work!
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ahmini posted:Just finished filling out the EU Settled Status bullshit for my partner. She's been resident and gainfully employed in the UK since at 2013 but of course the loving app denies her settled status and dumps her in the pre-settled category. Cue uploading tons of document scans proving she's been here. Of course I have every confidence that a Tory-run Home Office will process these correctly If it’s any any consolation, I just officially received pre-settled status and the people involved were very lenient in accepting my documents (more so than many banks here, for instance), responsive, and prompt in coming back with a decision.
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unwantedplatypus posted:What's the difference between aggressive monetization and just, like, being a self-help author?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Does this mean if they have a haircut you'll cease to exist? If only it were that easy!
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Guavanaut posted:Exactly. I'm sure many a starving family wasted the last of their porridge money funding their father's self help addiction. (This has probably happened at least once actually, but same goes for a lot of other things.)
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I don't see how it's really possible to promote alternative medicine without at least implicitly disparaging regular medicine. Like, if you're telling people that you can treat cancer with shiny stones and yak piss, then even if you're not telling people they should stop their actual treatment, you're still encouraging them to distrust real medicine by telling them that their doctors are holding out on them. That's not to say it doesn't have its place (I mean I literally just took some pills with "BASED ON TRADITIONAL USAGE ONLY" on them in clear letters because why the gently caress not, I haven't got time to get sick & it won't make it any worse), but there's a difference between selling the poo poo - responsibly, making it clear that it's not a substitute for real medicine & there's no evidence it works any better than a placebo - and actively promoting it. Even the name "alternative medicine" suggests that it's an "alternative", rather than a big pile of nothing that you can take on top of your regular poo poo if you really want to. Also why have we let the rhetoric shift from "curing cancer with yak piss" to "self help"? Self help is good, promoting alternative medicine is encouraging self harm
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Borrovan posted:I don't see how it's really possible to promote alternative medicine without at least implicitly disparaging regular medicine. Like, if you're telling people that you can treat cancer with shiny stones and yak piss, then even if you're not telling people they should stop their actual treatment, you're still encouraging them to distrust real medicine by telling them that their doctors are holding out on them. If it worked it wouldn't be called alternative medicine. It'd just be called medicine.
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Ms Adequate posted:Worms is the best because it's just a constant parade of getting cocky and eating poo poo as a result while that one person actually good at the game wrecks you all. I was that person  Favourite move: placing a pixel-perfect cluster bomb juuuuust under your arse so all the bomblets explode together and deal a billion damage
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Sanford posted:Cutting edge political commentary from the heart of Derbyshire! Can someone translate from farmer?
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superLINUS posted:So polling day for the first by-election since I became party secretary was yesterday, and I put a lot of work into the campaign. Let’s see how the results went. I'm sorry buddy. Can we help? Also I was doing a read of Radical Happiness and the point it raised is that with Self-Help books Happiness is very much seen as a one sided affair. It's something to do on your own. And tbh having done that for years I've kind of realised it sucks. More solidarity and meeting folks. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I was that person 
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Borrovan posted:Also why have we let the rhetoric shift from "curing cancer with yak piss" to "self help"? Self help is good, promoting alternative medicine is encouraging self harm I prefer the term 'complementary medicine'. Bedside manner and a feeling of being cared for are things that the woo folk are good at and mainstream medicine is Very Bad At. And it does help people heal. So yes alt-medicine is bad because it displaces actual medicine - but if someone wants to drink a bit of sugar water or have a massage and it helps them feel better after chemo, uh, go for it E: part of what makes the complementary treatments work is people's belief it works, so any public policy to do with complementary health care has a tough row to hoe with respect to efficacy & the placebo effect Superterranean fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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Angepain posted:I once heard something about Rasputin's spiritual woo healing advice actually working for the tsar's wife primarily because it avoided her condition getting worse by going through the godawful "medical" treatments of the time Same with early homeopathy. Turns out "have some water" is way better than leeches
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Haven't read the last couple of pages, so sorry if i've missed anything, i'll catch up shortly, but here is episode 3! Not an empty quote for the morning crew.
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Miftan posted:If it worked it wouldn't be called alternative medicine. It'd just be called medicine. The more reputable end of the spectrum call it "complimentary medicine" and I'm actually alright with that. Chemotherapy, for example, absolutely loving sucks and if some nice smells and a bit of stretching helps you feel better about it, then go for it. Where the problem for me is that once you call it aromatherapy and yoga it ends up costing 60 quid an hour and that's considerably more than the actual trained professionals doing the chemo are getting paid. Conversely I know full well that if they start offering it on the NHS it'll be a wedge for the quacks to get (further) in, and it'll be catnip for the tabloids - and this is assuming we get back a not-poo poo NHS where they don't cut a maternity ward to pay for it.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is there anyone who posts in this thread that doesn't belong in games workshop? I'm more of a historical games guy myself. Luv 2 napoleonics, such shiny pretty uniforms! 
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e: ^^^loving same, buddy All that kind of complementary stuff actually does work though (as in, more effective than a placebo, I dated a girl who did her PhD on it), at which point it just becomes "medicine". Just medicine that's not cost-effective enough to get on the NHS, which is a bummer, but it's very different to homeopathy & spiritual poo poo, which is just a placebo, but one that people'd still believe worked if you sold it in bottles with "THIS IS A PLACEBO THAT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING" and forced people to read clinical data on it before buying.
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Josef bugman posted:I'm sorry buddy. Can we help?
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Can I assume we’re all in agreement that Worms: Armageddon was the best and therefore canonical Worms game?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The more reputable end of the spectrum call it "complimentary medicine" and I'm actually alright with that. Chemotherapy, for example, absolutely loving sucks and if some nice smells and a bit of stretching helps you feel better about it, then go for it. Yeah I'm okay with that. Making sure people who are going through really rough treatments have good QoL is a good thing and shouldn't be reserved for the rich, but it should be billed as that, not complimentary medicine because as you said, that's how we get homoeopathy on the NHS. I hate homeopathy almost as much as I hate tories.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Same with early homeopathy. Turns out "have some water" is way better than leeches The big win that homeopaths always like to talk about is the London cholera epidemics, where the London Homeopathic Hospital had extremely good survival rates - something like 90% compared to the ~50% of some of the established hospitals. Apropos of nothing the London Homeopathic Hospital's first premises had a private well, and was located on Golden Square, uphill from Soho. I'm not even sure why I mention this.
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TACD posted:Can I assume we’re all in agreement that Worms: Armageddon was the best and therefore canonical Worms game? There are others?
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Borrovan posted:e: ^^^loving same, buddy A placebo that doesn't do anything is a shameful placebo. That's the whole weirdness of the placebo effect: placebos do something, somehow, because our bodies and brains are loving weird.
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unwantedplatypus posted:What's the difference between aggressive monetization and just, like, being a self-help author? success
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TACD posted:Can I assume we’re all in agreement that Worms: Armageddon was the best and therefore canonical Worms game? e: lmao I just realised that I am actually unironically a snobby purist about a silly 1990s video game for children Borrovan fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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unwantedplatypus posted:I'm sure many a starving family wasted the last of their porridge money funding their father's self help addiction. That doesn't mean that all spiritual and self help authors get sent to the word mines, it means that we acknowledge that the current metric of success for self help is 'sells well' and that puts it at the equivalent of the 19th century free market patent medicines phase, which is generally not regarded as the peak of medical integrity, and means that a lot of them are the spiritual equivalent of the old joke, man writes a book called How To Become A Millionaire, step 1 is write a book called... Also this Josef bugman posted:with Self-Help books Happiness is very much seen as a one sided affair. It's something to do on your own. And tbh having done that for years I've kind of realised it sucks. More solidarity and meeting folks. Also very much this TACD posted:Can I assume we’re all in agreement that Worms: Armageddon was the best and therefore canonical Worms game? e: ^^^ so you just want to play GORILLAS.BAS?
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The greatest menu theme outside of Smash Ultimate. Does your menu have a monologue? I didn't think so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWJsY4FoSZ8
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Ms Adequate posted:Worms is the best because it's just a constant parade of getting cocky and eating poo poo as a result while that one person actually good at the game wrecks you all. It was the best thing in my life until I found it worked with the dynamite hotkey as well
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