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Tiger Millionaire posted:Owen Jones thinks we all love Heineken up here? thespaceinvader posted:He thinks the Tories think that. It's an old ad campaign or something that Heineken was loved by everyone, so "Heineken candidate" became a political term for someone who appeals to all demographics.
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Julio Cruz posted:does anyone love Heineken? I mean I'll drink it on occasion, sometimes it might even be my first choice if the place doesn't have very many alternatives, but I don't think there's ever been an instance where I see Heineken and think "ah great, that's exactly what I was hoping for" It has a weird playdoh-y aftertaste. It's not great. And yes I eat playdoh why don't you?
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Lager is the most disgusting type of beer, ama
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coffeetable posted:let's be honest, most of wales' value is in donating its best and its brightest to london
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Sarah Bellum posted:
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Diet Crack posted:Lager is the most disgusting type of beer, ama What's the worst sneeze you've ever done?
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Barry Foster posted:The thing with non-alcoholic beer is that it's basically the same calories for none of the benefit. Isn't the bulk of the calorific content from the alcohol? Like a quick Google says a bottle of becks is 127 calories and the same size becks blue is 53.
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Julio Cruz posted:does anyone love Heineken? I mean I'll drink it on occasion, sometimes it might even be my first choice if the place doesn't have very many alternatives, but I don't think there's ever been an instance where I see Heineken and think "ah great, that's exactly what I was hoping for" Nope. And here in the Netherlands it's the Fosters/Tennants/Harp of lovely beers. It's for tourist traps and cafes/restaurants with a beer tap. In proper bars it would be up against a wide selection of actually good lagers so they don't even bother.
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kecske posted:Isn't the bulk of the calorific content from the alcohol? Like a quick Google says a bottle of becks is 127 calories and the same size becks blue is 53. e: drinkaware has just taught me that in terms of calories pure alcohol isn't far off from pure fat
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bessantj posted:What's the worst sneeze you've ever done? The one where I tried to hold it in during a film then depressurised my ears and couldn’t hear poo poo for 15 minutes
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Diet Crack posted:Lager is the most disgusting type of beer, ama What's it like being wrong all the time For reals tho I used to be 'meh' about lager until I got turned on to the quality german stuff
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As much as I hate all the inequality & the awful welfare policies & the anti-homeless person spikes & all that, beer snobbery is the worst thing of this millennium. Just drink White Lightning by the gallon and get hosed up ffs, you're not drinking wine, you don't need to sound like Jilly Goolden off of Food & Drink. And yes I know White Lightning isn't a beer, I'm not sure it can really be called a cider either, it just is.
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kecske posted:e: drinkaware has just taught me that in terms of calories pure alcohol isn't far off from pure fat
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Tiger Millionaire posted:Owen Jones thinks we all love Heineken up here? Heineken have an advertising slogan, which was being run heavily during the mid 2000s, "Reaching the parts other beers can't reach". In a "hilarious witticism" this was applied to Boris Johnson during his London mayoral campaign, calling him the Tory "Reaching the voters other candidates can't reach"- as a reference to his appeal going across traditional party lines, and his at the time successful shaking of the "Nasty Tories" label, as well as alluding to his laddishness. As is traditional for political witticisms this was neither funny nor insightful at the time, and is now just random jargon.
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Barry Foster posted:It has a weird playdoh-y aftertaste. It's not great. Barry, it says non-toxic! Also, as a non-drinker, is beer like UK towns/cities, in that there isn't one which won't make somebody say "ewww why would you drink that"?
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Bobstar posted:Also, as a non-drinker, is beer like UK towns/cities
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Bobstar posted:Barry, it says non-toxic! Yes. For example, I think most IPAs are undrinkable garbage made by flavor criminals intent on one-upping each other in how much goddamn hops they can put into their beverage, but clearly there are people who want that given how goddamn many of them I see so whatever.
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Undead Hippo posted:Heineken have an advertising slogan, which was being run heavily during the mid 2000s, "Reaching the parts other beers can't reach". In a "hilarious witticism" this was applied to Boris Johnson during his London mayoral campaign, calling him the Tory "Reaching the voters other candidates can't reach"- as a reference to his appeal going across traditional party lines, and his at the time successful shaking of the "Nasty Tories" label, as well as alluding to his laddishness. As is traditional for political witticisms this was neither funny nor insightful at the time, and is now just random jargon. I think "laddishness" is just the polite way of saying that he acts like a twat
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If wetherspoons has stopped serving all that european muck, does that mean you can't get a Guinness there any more either?
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Failed Imagineer posted:The nice thing in Ireland is almost everywhere will have a Guinness or Murphy's so you rarely get backed into drinking that wank water The south west is Heineken country, there is a big factory in Cork. Its the only beer in some pubs.
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Diet Crack posted:The one where I tried to hold it in during a film then depressurised my ears and couldn’t hear poo poo for 15 minutes That does sound terrible.
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bessantj posted:What's the worst sneeze you've ever done? Any that makes you fart out so fast/hard that your ring is sore after.
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kecske posted:e: drinkaware has just taught me that in terms of calories pure alcohol isn't far off from pure fat
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Bobstar posted:Barry, it says non-toxic! Yep. Mostly because (for example) most lager drinkers hate IPAs and most IPA drinkers hate lager. If you asked just lager/IPA drinkers it's possible that they'd all be OK with a particular one (Peroni seems to be generally popular as lagers go, I don't know enough about IPAs to make a guess at that one). e: though some people are just naturally contrarian arseholes, so even if you were talking about how you enjoyed breathing air you wouldn't get to the end of the sentence before they were telling you how actually 100% methane is much more refined Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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Beer is unlike UK towns & cities in that you can safely say that poo poo like Tetley's & Greene King IPA is absolute piss safely in the knowledge that some weirdo's not gonna pop out of the woodwork taking a bunch of offence & insisting it's quite nice actually Also I'm pretty sure nobody'd say bog-standard half-decent bitters like Doom Bar & London Pride are terrible? Guavanaut posted:A lot of the ethanol in pure alcohol won't be metabolized into energy
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bessantj posted:What's the worst sneeze you've ever done? I sneezed while I was eating chili con carne and some of it went up into my sinuses. For the next two days, a small particle of spicy mince would occasionally slip back out of my nasal cavity and down my throat I win 
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Bobstar posted:Barry, it says non-toxic! True, but I still prefer a Cobra or a Birra Moretti
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When I was first getting into drinking forums user murk said that Heineken was the best beer so I ordered it at the pub and even though all beer tastes like poo poo to me it was all much of a muchness so I stick with it. But I have a really strong sense of taste so all beer tastes horrible so it really doesn't matter what I get. I just stick with Heineken out of habit. I think the beer that tastes the least poo poo to me is Kirin, but that's difficult to get ahold of.
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Borrovan posted:Total aside, I do not know how metabolism works, do alcohol calories count as carbs for my macros? Meathead wisdom seems to be that actually alcohol does not count as anything because it is "empty calories" which can make you fat but magically cannot be burned for energy, which I'm pretty sure violates thermodynamics As I understand it the body uses alcohol preferentially for energy but can't be stored, so while alcohol in and of itself won't/can't make you fat, all the other stuff you eat or drink while you're drinking will be stored. So it will make you fat but indirectly
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Borrovan posted:Beer is unlike UK towns & cities in that you can safely say that poo poo like Tetley's & Greene King IPA is absolute piss safely in the knowledge that some weirdo's not gonna pop out of the woodwork taking a bunch of offence & insisting it's quite nice actually you've not been to enough CAMRA meetings Borrovan posted:Also I'm pretty sure nobody'd say bog-standard half-decent bitters like Doom Bar & London Pride are terrible? you've definitely not been to enough CAMRA meetings
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Lager as a concept isn't bad but 99% of the main brands are tepid piss. I can enjoy a slightly poo poo IPA but a bad lager is barely drinkable. e: Doom Bar's good. gently caress CAMRA.
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It's me, I'm the one who loves drinking those double and triple hopped ipas. They taste like tropical juice!
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Tesseraction posted:When I was first getting into drinking forums user murk said that Heineken was the best beer so I ordered it at the pub and even though all beer tastes like poo poo to me it was all much of a muchness so I stick with it. you can definitely train yourself into liking beer, I used to really hate it and only started actually enjoying it when I went off cider in my mid-20s but if all beer tastes terrible to you and it isn't getting any better then maybe try something else? there are plenty of options nowadays and no-one's going to give you poo poo for drinking eg Crabbie's or Old Mout or Jack and coke or whatever (and if they do they're cunts and you can justifiably glass them)
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Borrovan posted:...on account of there being no loving jobs here due to lack of infrastructure alternatively, get rid of what little infrastructure there is and rewild wales all residents get a choice between a fully-funded relocation to liverpool, or being eaten by wolves
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after trying and drinking lagers when I was younger and trying them now, it’s the most bland, unenjoyable taste that is pretty much common to every lager that I dislike. I won’t deny they can be refreshing with the right beer on a hot day, but for the most part it’s just a bitter water that leaves a horrible aftertaste and doesn’t really offer much by way of taste . If being adverse to lagers and drinking for the sake of drinking instead of actually enjoying it makes you a snob, then I guess I’m a snob.
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Julio Cruz posted:you can definitely train yourself into liking beer, I used to really hate it and only started actually enjoying it when I went off cider in my mid-20s It's the ethanol in it that hits worst, but as I get drunker the bite goes away. I still can't do raw spirits even when absolutely cunted, but do like spirit and mixers, but they're too easy to drink too quickly, especially if drunk. I stick with beer to slow me down, and alternate between a pint of beer and a pint of water.
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Ms Fuchi posted:I don't speak much beyond the basic poo poo because north walean here It is a massive overgeneralization that we actually speak Welsh, or even try to speak little bits or use the Welsh word for a thing if possible. That might be more the case in North West Wales, but as a lifetime North East Welsh person, I know little Welsh, and when I lived there encountered zero Welsh on a day to day basis that was not there due to the Welsh Assembly putting it there, such as signs. Sometimes teachers would speak Welsh when they didn't want the kids to know what they were talking about if they were capable of it, but that is about it. I can read and accurately pronounce Welsh words, as well as recognise Welsh phrases when spoken (like, a snippet of speech that is Welsh I would clock as being so), but not speak it. I would be able to detect someone speaking Welsh around me, and... well, it never happens. I speak for the more densely populated regions of Flintshire, Wrexham and Denbighshire. They were my stomping grounds growing up, and yes to agree with whoever it was above, Wrexham is misery. A lot of those regions are secretly second or third generation English (myself included) who moved there from Cheshire, the Wirral and Merseyside due to industrial work in the 20th century. Mining, steel and iron, more recently AIRBUS, all brought people over the border. You will find it is a lot more like the area around Cardiff with Welsh language ability, where what they speak might be very basic (asking your name and saying what you like/do not like level skill) and you will find very few situations where you can exercise that skill. I never spent much time there, but I got the impression that Conwy was largely similar to the more Eastern bits, with maybe a smidge more Welsh but hardly like stepping into another country. Outside of unfamiliar town names, I doubt you would even recognise that you crossed from Denbighshire into Conwy. The more sparse areas, specifically in Gwynedd or Anglesey might be more capable and a quick Google of a map indicates that what I am saying here is roughly correct. They are more the heart of Welsh language, and they also are not representative of most of the population of North Wales, something like 1/3 of the population or thereabout. Honestly my experience is that South West Wales around Camarthen actually speaks more Welsh than the densely populated bits of North Wales. My read of why people always think the North all know their Welsh is because South Wales overwhelmingly sets the record for Welsh reputation, and their biases and stereotypes go with it. They mostly don't go North, because why would they? The standard of living down South is much higher. I would also be incredibly skeptical of any survey information saying that a certain amount of people speak Welsh, because it offers very little nuance. I know plenty of people who, when asked for the census, say they can speak Welsh but when pressed on it cannot infact do it on a conversational level. What they have is a high school education of Welsh, rather than Welsh fluency. Their half-GCSE worth of Welsh. So, very basic pre-set conversation about weather, what you might do on a day out, likes and dislikes. It would be the exact same as someone who took GCSE German saying they can speak German, where they might be able to order a meal, but won't be able to do much more. They could tell you they like a thing, but might have a lot of trouble explaining why. Another Person fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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