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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Potential BFF posted:

I saw a Kelvin D7 up close in space today and blech, the model and textures are just straight up not good. The effect of EC inflation on box ships these days is crazy, 700 million for an admittedly good escort with a lazy rear end ugly model? No thanks.

Fortunately (?) the price for anything Lobi related is more or less fixed roughly around 200-250 mil even for best in class stuff like the Vengeance.

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Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

Haro_Wonderful posted:

I have sorta been dumping dilithium and fleet marks whenever I can to random fleet holdings. Are there some that are more important? Also how can I help out more aside from donating resources when I got it? Just hit Rear Admiral and tried to no avail to get a lock box T6, so now I have a few extra goodies to pop into the fleet bank but I guess all lot box things are account locked for a week. I have a spare Epic Kit Smoke Gel Trap Mk X if anyone needs it.

We've finished the fleet so any projects are just busywork to generate fleet credits. Don't waste dil on busy work.

Blacula
Dec 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1172555540318363648

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

I'm not sure whether to feel glad or dismayed that I have three of those ships from dilzen admiralty farming. >_>

greasythepirate
Aug 13, 2016
The next tweet makes an interesting point:

https://twitter.com/BorticusCryptic/status/1172561983599570944

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe
Do the new patrols have some sort of hidden timer to keep you from finishing them too quickly? Because the number of waves at the end seems excessive unless they're just throwing ships at you until it's been long enough. In the last one I did, the end had 25 waves, and 22 waves in the one before that.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


It seems so yeah. You get full XP/drops for killing them though unlike the usual infinite respawning stuff so that's nice and makes it super easy to level ship mastery. Still yet another example of their obsession with timers though.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

I bet people wanted the traits but not necessarily the ships. The Avenger is insanely ugly, but the trait is very good

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010


I used it for a Geneva myself, and I rather like it.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Ate My Balls Redux posted:

I bet people wanted the traits but not necessarily the ships. The Avenger is insanely ugly, but the trait is very good

What’s the avenger trait? Don’t think I have that one yet.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

I don't know what is up with folks purchasing the Avenger. The Avenger / Mogh give you hull options for the Arbiter / Kurak but don't provide any traits because they are T5. The Arbiter / Kurak grant Emergency Weapon Cycle which is one of the best traits in the game. I think the Twitter post might have just highlighted the wrong ship because the Avenger is T5.

Edit: A kitbash with the Avenger windows, hull material, saucer, nacelles, and fleet pylons plus the Arbiter hull and command module is one of the best looking Federation ships in the game, REAL TALK.

gently caress IT, MORE EDITS: The Mogh head, hull, and nacelles with Kurak options for everything else will grant you one of the best looking KDF ships in the game too. REAL TALK.

bij fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Sep 14, 2019

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Cyrano4747 posted:

What’s the avenger trait? Don’t think I have that one yet.
Emergency Weapon Cycle, -50% weapon power cost and 20% firing haste for 30 seconds after using EPTW, the skill you were going to use anyway. It's in almost every DPS build except weird torpedo or hangar-focused ones.

Potential BFF posted:

I don't know what is up with folks purchasing the Avenger. The Avenger / Mogh give you hull options for the Arbiter / Kurak but don't provide any traits because they are T5. The Arbiter / Kurak grant Emergency Weapon Cycle which is one of the best traits in the game. I think the Twitter post might have just highlighted the wrong ship because the Avenger is T5.
They messed up and used the T5/original names for a lot of the listed ships rather than the T6 ones, that's about it really. Note they used "Jupiter" on there twice. :shrug:

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Ah. Yeah. I’ve got that one. Graphic ducked with me.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Potential BFF posted:

Edit: A kitbash with the Avenger windows, hull material, saucer, nacelles, and fleet pylons plus the Arbiter hull and command module is one of the best looking Federation ships in the game, REAL TALK.

gently caress IT, MORE EDITS: The Mogh head, hull, and nacelles with Kurak options for everything else will grant you one of the best looking KDF ships in the game too. REAL TALK.
:hai:

I actually really like the default basic Mogh skin, but I have no real reason to actually use it when the Vor'ral does basically the same thing but with a ship gimmick and a canon skin.

Asimo fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Sep 14, 2019

bij
Feb 24, 2007

:respek:

It was legitimately cool of Cryptic to provide the original gold Mogh skin to KDF C-Store purchases but it's a bummer that the exclusive Mogh and Avenger hulls (and windows in the Avenger's case) are limited to two ships.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


I think we can all agree that, no matter what, the Disco plank boats are design atrocities. Even the okay looking ones don't seem like actual klingon ships.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

The only decent Klingon ship Disco has managed to produce is their take on the D7, I utterly loving hate every single KDF ship they've barfed out otherwise.

The DSC D7 is a legitimately nice looking ship compared to the lazy dogshit that the Kelvin timeline / Cryptic managed to yank out in their lazy cash grab tug session.

bij fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Sep 14, 2019

BombermanX
Jan 13, 2011

I'm afraid of other people's opinions when they differ from my own. Please do not hurt my feelings.

DancingShade posted:

Space barbies go nuts.

holy poo poo, now butts 2.0 can be butts 1.0!

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Potential BFF posted:


gently caress IT, MORE EDITS: The Mogh head, hull, and nacelles with Kurak options for everything else will grant you one of the best looking KDF ships in the game too. REAL TALK.

Hard agree, the Mogh is the best looking KDF Cruiser in the game

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Is the game worth playing? I haven't played since Dyson sphere and I have a hankering for star trek content lately

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ramadu posted:

Is the game worth playing? I haven't played since Dyson sphere and I have a hankering for star trek content lately

The story stuff is worth at last 1 playthrough if you like Star Trek

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


The dyson sphere stuff was probably the peak of the game in some ways, but it's as fun as ever if you liked it back then. Keep in mind it's still just as strange, laggy, and janky as ever too, burt it's F2P so whatever.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Asimo posted:

The dyson sphere stuff was probably the peak of the game in some ways, but it's as fun as ever if you liked it back then. Keep in mind it's still just as strange, laggy, and janky as ever too, burt it's F2P so whatever.

The DS9 stuff was decent

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Yeah, fair. Only real problem was not enough of it.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
How long do we have to earn this free green ship anyway? Is it "rush rush" or simply whenever we get around to filling up the bar?

Edit - Nevermind I found it.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

It’s 30 days and you have to get your points on 20 of those to fill it IIRC.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I looked at how much you had to do to get a day's worth of points and went 'gently caress it'. Not worth the time out of my day if it takes more than ten minutes or I have to pay attention.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

MikeJF posted:

I looked at how much you had to do to get a day's worth of points and went 'gently caress it'. Not worth the time out of my day if it takes more than ten minutes or I have to pay attention.

An absolutely fair reaction. One TFO is okay, two identical back to back is... bleh.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

DancingShade posted:

An absolutely fair reaction. One TFO is okay, two identical back to back is... bleh.

I've been having a pretty good time just doing the patrols. It doesn't take long to do 4 of them and the variety makes it a lot more enjoyable.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
I've been using the patrols to finally level up my Jem ships. :shrug:

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Wizard of the Deep posted:

I've been using the patrols to finally level up my Jem ships. :shrug:

They're really good ship exp-wise. I've been clearing out my backlog of event ships that I never bothered to level up.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I've been having a pretty good time just doing the patrols. It doesn't take long to do 4 of them and the variety makes it a lot more enjoyable.

Helps that The Ninth Rule has randomly generated bad guys, too. I've seen Fek'lhri, Gorn, Orions, Terrans, Nausicaans, and Breen so far.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
The Mycelial Realm TFO is cake with a TR rifle and doing it twice is pretty quick

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Anyone have any opinions on the Andorian Thozyn Pilot Escort? I'm still looking to cash in my T6 token and the skill looks OK. Damage buff every time you use a tac skill, stacks 5 times, stacks go away when you leave combat.

edit: also half eyeballing the Tucker class miracle worker cruiser, since it's buff increases the duration of FOW and I'm still running a lazy FOW build.

Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Sep 18, 2019

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Alternatively what are the must-haves if I want to start a cannon build? Valiant I assume?

I've already got the required arbiter and presidio.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Goddamn. Never mind.

I just acidentally blew my T6 token buying some random thing while kit-bashing a ship. Turns out you can buy through there. :saddowns:

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cyrano4747 posted:

Alternatively what are the must-haves if I want to start a cannon build? Valiant I assume?

I've already got the required arbiter and presidio.

The Valiant is indeed what you want. You also want the trait from the Arbiter (Emergency Weapon Cycle). Those, imo, are the absolute minimum, most people mix in other stuff from there as budget allows. Calm before the Storm (off the cardassian intel flight deck carrier) is popular cause it increases your DPS 50% of the time and also helps with cooldown management.

Superior Area Denial is also popular for CSV builds, but unfortunately for you, as a fed player, you can't get it cheaply :v:

AGGGGH BEES fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Sep 18, 2019

bij
Feb 24, 2007

For cannons you really want Withering Barrage from the T6 Tactical Escort / Kor / Malem for the extended scatter volley duration. The Rapid Fire duration trait is gated behind the Jem Strike Ship which is a bummer because I vastly prefer the feel of rapid fire over scatter volley.

edit: Hurr, yea the T6 tac escort is the Valiant~

bij fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Sep 19, 2019

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Cyrano4747 posted:

Goddamn. Never mind.

I just acidentally blew my T6 token buying some random thing while kit-bashing a ship. Turns out you can buy through there. :saddowns:

Ouch and yes.

Fun fact: during the early days of making T5 (yes T5, we're going back a ways) update versions of T3 ships I bought the KDF space fish* escort. Couldn't do any customization (even the bridge) because I didn't own the base T3 version and it shared parts. So it was spend... whatever it cost in zen for the T3, or not customize it at all.

*whichever one came with the original fart gas console. Good for ye olde kerrat spawns.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




DancingShade posted:

Ouch and yes.

Fun fact: during the early days of making T5 (yes T5, we're going back a ways) update versions of T3 ships I bought the KDF space fish* escort. Couldn't do any customization (even the bridge) because I didn't own the base T3 version and it shared parts. So it was spend... whatever it cost in zen for the T3, or not customize it at all.

*whichever one came with the original fart gas console. Good for ye olde kerrat spawns.

The Kar'fi still has an issue where there are two types of windows for it, bright red neon or normal yellow. But only one - red - is available in the customiser, and it comes with the yellow. So if you want to have regular yellow windows, you have to make sure you never ever customise it, or it'll change and you can't get the original ones back.

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