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iron buns posted:
Just you wait until Vehicle HUD v4 goes live. Then you'll see, you dirty hater.
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S1rmunchalot posted:Chris has a habit of talking about things from his perspective, he talks about plans he has as though they were fixed when they are not. A lot of the things people rightly state are 'Written in stone' were written before certain changes happened, but he's not interested in going back and rehashing every single detail. He probably will once Squadron 42 Chapter One is 'completed'.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 07:50 |
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Mr Fronts posted:Just you wait until Vehicle HUD v4 goes live. Then you'll see, you dirty hater. Listen, lad. I built this kingdom up from nothing. When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 08:03 |
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Mirificus posted:https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/do-you-guys-have-multiple-game-packages/2350886 That's loving rich, their mission givers have been lagging for years, even before they began to focus on S42 (after tossing - apparently - everything into trash), and people are expected to believe that they'll have "NPCs referencing your S42 military log" or whatever. Who am I kidding, of course the hardcore will believe that.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 08:30 |
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Dementropy posted:A callback, since you're up there: The legend lives on from the Crobbear on down Of the big fake they called Glitchey Gamey The fake, it is said, never gives up the get When the con in November turns scammy
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Sandepande posted:That's loving rich, their mission givers have been lagging for years, even before they began to focus on S42 (after tossing - apparently - everything into trash), and people are expected to believe that they'll have "NPCs referencing your S42 military log" or whatever. You can't convince some of them. They will say "but that was before the other thing", and then you show that in fact, it wasn't, and then they say well it doesn't matter, you can't hold him to it, projects get delayed anyway. He wasn't lying or incompetent, he was just overly optimistic. I'm like, 5 years (or whatever), that's a bit more than overly optimistic, its just plain wrong. And despite many times pointing to Chris' statements about the votes, and how the increased funding would not delay release, i've never had one backer acknowledge that, even when i've linked the source and quoted the statement. Its like mental blind spot for them, they just can't see those words. I mean, its not like they have to give up their belief that SC will be a good game. All they have to do is say "yeah, he screwed up with that statement" and it would show they acknowledge they made some misleading statements, and therefore understand why some of us have concerns about their marketing and ability to deliver. EDIT: actually that part about having NPCs referencing your SQ42 mission log shouldn't really be that hard. I'm sure CIG will try and make out like its some herculean task and invent some new word for how it happens, but at the end of the day it would just be a simple lookup function. Agony Aunt fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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Agony Aunt posted:You can't convince some of them. They will say "but that was before the other thing", and then you show that in fact, it wasn't, and then they say well it doesn't matter, you can't hold him to it, projects get delayed anyway. He wasn't lying or incompetent, he was just overly optimistic. Some of them have probably convinced themselves that it's all normal because GTA V took eight years (to release, not to reach this level of janky poo poo and not asking for handouts to fund development - unless releasing GTA IV was "asking handouts"), but I suspect many are simply staking their whatever passes for reputation in their minds and won't admit to any CR's weaknesses beyond those which are really, you know, positive aspects (perfectionism, optimism, etc.). They can see what they've got, and for one reason or another they cannot back down.
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Sandepande posted:Some of them have probably convinced themselves that it's all normal because GTA V took eight years (to release, not to reach this level of janky poo poo and not asking for handouts to fund development - unless releasing GTA IV was "asking handouts"), but I suspect many are simply staking their whatever passes for reputation in their minds and won't admit to any CR's weaknesses beyond those which are really, you know, positive aspects (perfectionism, optimism, etc.). They can see what they've got, and for one reason or another they cannot back down. That includes all prelim work btw, from conception, pre-production and release. They also overhauled their engine, and hired a new core team of network engineers during that time. Star Citizen will soon eclipse the total development and marketing budget of one of the highest selling and technically impressive games of all time, and all they have are some cave interiors and $1,000 ships to show for it. I'm sure the AAA game industry is shaking in their boots. TheAgent fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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Just a reminder that an entire console generation will have been announced, launched, and retired since the Star Citizen Kickstarter.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 12:53 |
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Just a reminder that an actual real life space rocket program has been announced and launched since the Star Citizen kickstarter.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 12:57 |
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Maybe I should add it to the list…
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 13:06 |
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iron buns posted:
Just realized that SC is a Kongregate Idle game. You click on the 'Buy ship' button and the colors and numbers increase on these two pics.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 13:15 |
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I am honestly in awe that this poo poo will now very likely have a longer development time than Duke Nukem Forever (if you count both studios' meanderings together or seperate as resulting in a complete game, which is TBH pretty analogous to SC's development). I remember back when it actually released, I was like: "welp...that record ain't gettin' beat any time soon" and the very next year Star Citizen comes out and, unknowingly to anyone at the time, says "Hold my beer."
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 13:20 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Yes, very much so. Instead of flying combat ships the focus will be on the forklift drivers who move goods around the warehouse and occasionally push crashed ships off the deck. Chris Roberts' Space Bulldozer Simulator 2025
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 13:30 |
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Star Skinizen
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TheAgent posted:Eight years for the PC release. Six to release on the PS3. (2nd quarter 2008 to 3rd quarter 2013) at the actual rate of progress all baryonic matter in the universe will decay first
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 13:52 |
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Dementropy posted:Star Skinizen Move over, Zune tattoo guy
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 14:13 |
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Sandepande posted:- unless releasing GTA IV was "asking handouts" Well I mean I did play it and it was about as much fun as a streetside hobo lecturing you about Eastern European civil wars and then a long aside about what his cousin was doing next week. GTA 5 was great though.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 14:33 |
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I mean some shitizens have definately peeled off the project or quietly left the community. You just have to figure that each round of disappointments results in the remaining jerks being more and more fanatical.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 14:56 |
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...and also a new round of suckers getting in and becoming new whales. Don't underestimate internet people's craving to express their 'midlife crisis' by buying internet space ships.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 14:59 |
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Agony Aunt posted:
<Psycho Mantis Voice> Oh, I see that you like Squadron 42
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 15:01 |
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we meet again SC thread i think one of my fav things about the whole "GTAV took x years" is the corollary that GTAV and skyrim are miniscule undertakings in comparison to star citizen which should immediately flash alarms for everyone since those are both huge AAA games
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 15:09 |
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Hentai Jihadist posted:we meet again SC thread Oh, but you see, Star Citizen does things no other game has been able to do, like: [a list of things SC does not yet do]
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 15:11 |
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Anyone know why exactly Lesnik was removed from the public facing aspects of the project? Did he try and eat Strangli? Answer the call: 2016! A Dreamer sees the truth in the midst of his dream:
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 15:41 |
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AlbieQuirky posted:What if the US economy crashes but Germany does fine? Will be a different game if so. Correct, it will become more focused on autoerotic asphyxiation in pre built wank pods. VR will, of course, be the new primary focus.
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Sarsapariller posted:Listen, lad. I built this kingdom up from nothing. When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands. Would we be the one coming to the rescue and slaughtering all of the guests or the manchild singing and hoping for rescue? Hmmmmm.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 15:55 |
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Tippis posted:Maybe I should add it to the list… Coloring in Star Citizen as blue, referencing alpha, is very generous of this chart. I know they say it's alpha, but since nothing works, there's no space flight or physics, etc. it's still really just in production. They're just letting people experience the raw thrill of their streaming liquid poo poo. It'll be a real alpha when many working systems are in place and fairly reliable, and a handful of missions are playable and give a feel what the game will be. That's alpha, then they add content and fix bugs until they have most of what will release, there's your beta, then when they think it's ready it's a release candidate, then a release. Who's kidding who, though, Chris Roberts has already explained that all those terms are "just words" anyway and the "old way" of doing things; the correct approach is to steal money for nearly a decade and do whatever you want to with it and get praised for your infinite layer cake of abject failure.
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Scruffpuff posted:Coloring in Star Citizen as blue, referencing alpha, is very generous of this chart. That's the whole point, really. Trying to be as charitable to SC as possible while still using the actual years and dates of the most common points of comparison, and even including things that really shouldn't even be a part of the process (such as the bit before the kickstarter that citizens so often feel shouldn't count)… …and even then, the SC development timeframe becomes ridiculous in comparison. In six months, we're down to only three candidates: Spore (one of the biggest disappointments ever), Diablo 3 (hugely disappointing on release, only saved through later expansions), and DNF (the least disappointing game ever cancelled and then released anyway). That's not exactly good company to be in. And of course, if we are to believe CIG's own suggestions on possible release dates, it'll take longer than going from zero to the actual moon did. Tippis fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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Scruffpuff posted:Coloring in Star Citizen as blue, referencing alpha, is very generous of this chart. I know they say it's alpha, but since nothing works, there's no space flight or physics, etc. it's still really just in production. They're just letting people experience the raw thrill of their streaming liquid poo poo. It'll be a real alpha when many working systems are in place and fairly reliable, and a handful of missions are playable and give a feel what the game will be. That's alpha, then they add content and fix bugs until they have most of what will release, there's your beta, then when they think it's ready it's a release candidate, then a release. mate next year they're gonna be in alpha 4.0 and you're gonna be ashamed of your words and deeds alpha 4.0 naturally being the alpha after 3.9 cause thats how version numbers work this is a real game dev yes siree
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Sandepande posted:Some of them have probably convinced themselves that it's all normal because GTA V took eight years (to release, not to reach this level of janky poo poo and not asking for handouts to fund development - unless releasing GTA IV was "asking handouts"), but I suspect many are simply staking their whatever passes for reputation in their minds and won't admit to any CR's weaknesses beyond those which are really, you know, positive aspects (perfectionism, optimism, etc.). They can see what they've got, and for one reason or another they cannot back down. The sequel counting is suspect anyway. This is why they say ridiculous bullshit like E:D took 19 years since Frontier 2 released in like '95. Besides by that logic Star Citizen has taken 16 years and isn't out yet. I mean there were sequel rumors after Freelancer! clearly they've been working on it for 16 years.
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Tippis posted:Maybe I should add it to the list… To be fair, you should add the Sagrada Familia to the list. Thoatse posted:WORM WAS NOT A JOKE stupid sexy frog
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skeletors_condom posted:Anyone know why exactly Lesnik was removed from the public facing aspects of the project? Did he try and eat Strangli? CIG realized that this was a bad look, even if their backers didn't. Of course, they couldn't openly shitcan him for sharing his website full of racist, pedophile, stalker poo poo lest they alienate all the racists, pedos, and stalkers among their backers, so now he "works remotely" on a farm upstate
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Incoming FYAD concern trolls about how we totes doxxed him into this in 3, 2, 1,...
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Foo Diddley posted:CIG realized that this was a bad look, even if their backers didn't. Of course, they couldn't openly shitcan him for sharing his website full of racist, pedophile, stalker poo poo lest they alienate all the racists, pedos, and stalkers among their backers, so now he "works remotely" on a farm upstate IMHO running a $200+ M scam is way worse than some degen website. But I can see how CIG thought this wasn't a "good look" purely from PR/agit-prop basis. skeletors_condom fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Sep 14, 2019 |
# ? Sep 14, 2019 17:33 |
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Also I think Sandi was jealous that a visibly decaying pile of lard and bacon rinds had more stage presence than she did
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AlbieQuirky posted:To be fair, you should add the Sagrada Familia to the list. It didn't improve things
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Tippis posted:Maybe I should add it to the list… Well, this is because they doing something never been done before you FUDster! They are taking hundreds of millions in backer money and giving no indication of when they will deliver. That's never been done before!
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 19:14 |
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So, i'm having a robust back and forth with one of the more stauch supporters of the game. Its certainly been challenging because he's avoiding actually discussing the topic a lot and instead focuses on making personal comments and casting shade on my motivations. Occasionally he does deem to actually try and make an on-topic point, in between making personal comments. I've been avoiding sharing the discussions because i didn't want to be accused of brigading, but this one is pure gold. Note, not providing link or including their name for the aforementioned reason. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH THE POOP! This was in relation to me talking about how Chris, live on video, said SQ42 would be out later that year (2014) with SC to follow the next year. But apparently they are not dates and mean nothing, poo poo happens apparently, and this is absoloutely fine and normal. Now, i'm happy to agree projects get delayed, things don't work out, but when the man in charge keeps revising it year after year, and then goes silent for a couple of years, then shows off an hour long demo, and how it just needs more polish, then more silence for a year, then announces they have scrapped it all and redoing it... well, it does make one a tad concerned about the honesty of their communications. Agony Aunt fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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I too like to call release dates "not actual dates".
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