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Seven loving mana just to take an extra turn? And I can't even recur it from the yard? Garbage.
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Voyager I posted:Decks diversifying analogous cards to play around hate pieces - a thing that is most definitely not done in every format. that particular example is really nonsensical though. people aren't sideboarding in unmoored ego against the grindy control/midrange decks that run command.
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Sep 17, 2019 03:24
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Magic Underwear posted:Seven loving mana just to take an extra turn? And I can't even recur it from the yard? Garbage. I am incredibly pleased with myself for having been right about this one.
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Sep 17, 2019 03:33
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Also I think Command gets worse when you can't rely on the Explore lifegain package to keep going.
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little munchkin posted:that particular example is really nonsensical though. people aren't sideboarding in unmoored ego against the grindy control/midrange decks that run command. They absolutely are. They shouldn't be, but those are completely different things.
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Sep 17, 2019 03:45
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suicidesteve posted:They absolutely are. *Casts Surgical Extraction targeting Tarmogoyf*
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Sep 17, 2019 03:48
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Someone with more time than me should make a website for goons that lets them rate cards from 1-10 that locks before prerelease weekend because I bet every set would be 1-2 cards with 9 ratings and every other card a 1-3 rating We used to do this in the hearthstone thread for every expansion, and it was great. Nothing like seeing everyone poo poo all over a card for it to turn out to be good and vice versa. Turns out evaluating cards in a vacuum is hard to do, unless they are incredibly broken.
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Sep 17, 2019 03:50
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GoutPatrol posted:I still think the biggest miss this thread ever had was Arclight Phoenix. This thread just never lets anyone forget. You gonna call everyone out if Cauldron ends up being somewhat ok?
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Sep 17, 2019 03:51
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Cauldron will get banned in Legacy for being too good
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Sep 17, 2019 04:04
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InterrupterJones posted:This thread just never lets anyone forget. You gonna call everyone out if Cauldron ends up being somewhat ok? I've found the trick is to never be wrong. 
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Sep 17, 2019 04:07
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me, a complete moron: cauldron sucks rear end you, a clever genuis: ah but these other poster that are not you thought a different card was bad, and were wrong. checkmate.
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Sep 17, 2019 04:12
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little munchkin posted:me, a complete moron: cauldron sucks rear end the trick is to not make blanket statements. dont say the card sucks rear end, say the enablers for the card dont exist yet. cauldron has a very powerful effect; it probably wont see play, but the actual text on it is quite strong.
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Sep 17, 2019 04:16
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Sampatrick posted:the trick is to not make blanket statements. dont say the card sucks rear end, say the enablers for the card dont exist yet. cauldron has a very powerful effect; it probably wont see play, but the actual text on it is quite strong.
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Sep 17, 2019 04:34
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 HOVERGUARD SWEEPSERS!!!!! Thanks arena.
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Tibalt posted:Have you tried not being A COWARD? I definitely haven't  code:
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InterrupterJones posted:This thread just never lets anyone forget. You gonna call everyone out if Cauldron ends up being somewhat ok? Perhaps the answer isn't rushing to be the first to call every card except the most clearly amazing ones "bad"
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Sep 17, 2019 05:31
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Perhaps the answer isn't rushing to be the first to call every card except the most clearly amazing ones "bad" having opinions and discussing them in this, the thread to discuss Magic: the Gathering cards is fun, though. if we're not allowed to have opinions on cards during spoiler season what are we supposed to talk about during said spoiler season (For what it's worth, I think this card looks about as playable as Deadbridge Chant, so a haymaker against midrange/control)
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Sep 17, 2019 05:35
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Elyv posted:having opinions and discussing them in this, the thread to discuss Magic: the Gathering cards is fun, though. if we're not allowed to have opinions on cards during spoiler season what are we supposed to talk about during said spoiler season I love opinions. When they are varied and thoughtful, not "dies to removal, bad." "Doesn't win when dropped and costs more than 3 mana, bad"
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I love opinions. When they are varied and thoughtful, not "dies to removal, bad." "Doesn't win when dropped and costs more than 3 mana, bad" I mean, if your 5+ mana creature is not resilient to removal and does not give you instant value when played/killed, the history of magic: the gathering says that it's got a very tiny chance to be playable unless it is baneslayer angel or legendary baneslayer angel hell, that's even a barrier that blocks most 4 drops
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You must have very thin skin if gentle ribbing over getting card evaluations wrong gets you upset enough to think about not posting your opinions. Either that or you're taking things way too seriously to begin with. Sickening pointed out that Phoenix was preordering at $2.50. Everyone got it wrong! It's not something to be ashamed about!
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InterrupterJones posted:This thread just never lets anyone forget. You gonna call everyone out if Cauldron ends up being somewhat ok? Sure if people want it.
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Voyager I posted:*Casts Surgical Extraction targeting Tarmogoyf* Have literally had this happen to me
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ShaneB posted:Have literally had this happen to me did you remark that it shrunk your goyfs?
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ShaneB posted:Have literally had this happen to me I've gotten rift bolt surgicalled, which is probably even sillier
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Elyv posted:I've gotten rift bolt surgicalled, which is probably even sillier
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Jabor posted:You must have very thin skin if gentle ribbing over getting card evaluations wrong gets you upset enough to think about not posting your opinions. Either that or you're taking things way too seriously to begin with. My friend tells a story about walking around the Future Sight prerelease (and after), handing people 2$ cash for their bulk 2 mana cost green creature rare with weird art. That (plus stock piling for the next weeks) paid for a decent little bit of his college.
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cauldron is similar enough to whip of erebos that i would be surprised if it sees no play at all, imo
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Tubgoat posted:Wtf why dude surgical was a four-for-one, don't you understand card advantage?
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Rare land spoiled. ETBT, taps for black, 1BB: tap, draw a card and lose 1 life for each card in your hand. Edit: ETBT unless you control a swamp. It's hard to read the crappy picture I saw. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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 Castle Lochtwain Land ~ enters tapped unless you have Swamp T: add B 1BB, T: draw a card, then you lose life equal to the number of cards in your hand
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suicidesteve posted:Rare land spoiled. ETBT, taps for black, 1BB: tap, draw a card and lose 1 life for each card in your hand. lol jesus christ wotc Kurtofan posted:~ enters tapped unless you have Swamp THIS IS A MUCH BETTER CARD
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I guess that's one way to make a grindy card-drawing land that's not actually that appealing to control decks. Another land cycle that plays well with shocks, though you're not going to squeeze this into a three-colour colour-intensive deck. This one's great for midrangey decks that want to be able to gas up in the late game without taking turns off early to play card draw.
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Toshimo posted:Nah. This isn't good in any of those. It's junk. Grenzo, though.
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That actually seems like a cool design, you'll have to really think about when to activate it. Makes me apprehensive about the other four.
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mossyfisk posted:That actually seems like a cool design, you'll have to really think about when to activate it. Well, the blue one's a bit more straightforward:  How much worse than Lochtwain if both players are hellbent, anyway? My intuition says that they're at least reasonably close assuming normal land distribution.
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The blue has "2UU, tap: scry 2"
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I think it's odd they aren't legendary.
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q_k posted:I think it's odd they aren't legendary. I presume it's for the same reason as Valakut - namely, so you don't feel too bad about making land drops, and because it represents a place large enough to span multiple 'lands' conceptually. For what it's worth, the last standard legal legendary land was Inventor's Fair, which had two effects that would both be very powerful in multiples, and Geier Reach Sanitarium before that (???). I'm not counting the enchantments that flip into legendary lands, mind you.
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Gameplay trumps flavor in most cases I'm glad we're getting cards of the castles in any case
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ungulateman posted:Geier Reach Sanitarium before that (???). lol wtf was going on in development where that card needed to be legendary?
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