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Ghost Leviathan posted:Doing weird poo poo with mercury is basically how we got chemistry. Did the brain worms caused by mercury exposure help chemistry manifest? “I’ve got a mad idea about invisible structures made up of little energy balls huddled together and how they interact with other, similar structures!” 
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Pastry of the Year posted:I don't read the chemistry thread, and I'm not a chemist (and I guess those two things are related), so can someone explain to me why those insane murder compounds of mercury (for example) even exist? If there's mercury in the environment, bacteria will turn it into methylmercury.
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Sep 17, 2019 14:48
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Imperador do Brasil posted:A local one my wife just sent me. Other than the gross misuse of the term “arrest papers”, it paints a pretty horrifying picture of this kid’s miserable excuse for a life. This happened about 15 minutes from me. quote:Other children in the house would try to help, according to arrest papers. Story says it's confidential whether those kids were also removed. I hope they were.
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Pastry of the Year posted:I don't read the chemistry thread, and I'm not a chemist (and I guess those two things are related), so can someone explain to me why those insane murder compounds of mercury (for example) even exist? If something is burny, foofy, foomy, acidy, explody, poisony, or mediciny somebody, somewhere will decide "no, this is not burny, foofy, foomy, acidy, explody, poisony, or mediciny, I must make it more so!" This is why we have a compound so volatile you can't measure it. At all. It's called azidoazide azide. It's literally impossible to keep it from exploding. I don't think that can be repeated enough; this is a chemical that if you totally isolate it from all things that can possibly set it off it will still go boom. Somebody out there is probably trying to come up with an even more horrifying mercury compound than any that already exist because we're humans and that's what we do.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:This is why we have a compound so volatile you can't measure it. At all. It's called azidoazide azide. It's literally impossible to keep it from exploding. I don't think that can be repeated enough; this is a chemical that if you totally isolate it from all things that can possibly set it off it will still go boom. Nah, you've got to do something like shine an infrared laser on it to try to get a Raman spectrograph. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2013/01/09/things_i_wont_work_with_azidoazide_azides_more_or_less Something that couldn't be stable at all would be a compound that couldn't exist because it would decompose as soon as it formed. And there are all sorts of compounds that can't exist.
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ReelBigLizard posted:
from the OSHA thread
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America can, should, must and will blow up the moon This has been quite informative and I think I'm gonna have to start following the chemistry thread, just to add a little polish to my firmly-held belief that everything is trying to kill me in the cruelest possible way
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Pastry of the Year posted:America can, should, must and will blow up the moon We were gonna! Project A119 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_A119 Project A119, also known as A Study of Lunar Research Flights, was a top-secret plan developed in 1958 by the United States Air Force. The aim of the project was to detonate a nuclear bomb on the Moon, which would help in answering some of the mysteries in planetary astronomy and astrogeology.
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Phanatic posted:Nah, you've got to do something like shine an infrared laser on it to try to get a Raman spectrograph. Azidoazide azide actually did have a tendency to blow up if they put it in a dark climate controlled room with things that would dampen movements. "Doing absolutely nothing at all to it" is on the list of "poo poo that sets this poo poo off." That isn't a joke; this stuff will just randomly explode because somebody mentioned it at lunch four miles away. Chemistry experts who are experts in the particular field of "really loving boomy things" actively trying to keep the poo poo from detonating couldn't keep it from detonating. ToxicSlurpee has a new favorite as of 16:43 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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Croatoan posted:We were gonna! "Can the moon blow up" is a legitimate astronomical mystery 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Azidoazide azide actually did have a tendency to blow up if they put it in a dark climate controlled room with things that would dampen movements. "Doing absolutely nothing at all to it" is on the list of "poo poo that sets this poo poo off." That isn't a joke; this stuff will just randomly explode because somebody mentioned it at lunch four miles away. That may have been (a tiny bit) exaggerated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sz4d7RQB6Y
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Pastry of the Year posted:America can, should, must and will blow up the moon We choose to blow up the Moon! We choose to blow up the Moon...We choose to blow up the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they make us hard.
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Pastry of the Year posted:I don't read the chemistry thread, and I'm not a chemist (and I guess those two things are related), so can someone explain to me why those insane murder compounds of mercury (for example) even exist? Dangerous things often give us useful, non-dangerous things, either as an ingredient or as part of the creation process. Sometimes it is something like "if we mix these two dangerous chemicals together, we get this one useful and not at all dangerous chemical" Sometimes it's "if we mix these two non-dangerous chemicals together we get these two chemicals, one of which is dangerous, but if we then mix that dangerous chemical with this other non-dangerous chemical, we get this useful, non-dangerous chemical". I mean, combining nitrogen together in new and interesting ways is how you get both new high explosives and also new fertilizers.
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The best part of the plan to blow up the moon was the Weekly World News running a cover story about it decades later.
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What a ridiculous and wasteful project. You could learn just as much by carving your initials into it with a giant laser.
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Busket Posket posted:There’s an update, but it doesn’t really clear anything up. The Washington Post has picked up the story which keeps getting weirder and weirder. The craziest part to me is, even if the adoptive mom is telling the truth and this girl is actually a 20-something scam artist, how the hell is the appropriate response to this not “alert the authorities” but rather “stash her in an apartment, move out of the country and hope the whole thing just goes away”?
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letthereberock posted:The Washington Post has picked up the story which keeps getting weirder and weirder.
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letthereberock posted:The Washington Post has picked up the story which keeps getting weirder and weirder. That part at least makes sense to me. Not saying I believe her, but it would go something like this: The parents are becoming publicly known around this time as role model parents who nurtured an autistic child to success, and all that gets real murky once it comes out that they got conned by an adult posing as a child. It doesn't change what they did with their son, but any public adulation goes away because there's always gonna be people who go "how can you not know?" and assume that something is up. So the parents make some kind of deal with the con artist where they put her up for some length of time, which gives her time to move on. Essentially a cover-up to protect public status. Now, having said that, I don't believe it. If that really was the case, the husband would be sticking with the same story, even if the cops were charging them, since it's pretty much the only explanation that isn't just admitting guilt, but it sounds like he's more or less corroborating what the cops are saying. Now, that could be that they've flipped him and he's got a deal, but that leaves a whole other set of questions, namely how the gently caress did they get her legal age doubled? Also, just what's going on with the second set of parents trying to adopt the girl, and the couple objecting?
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Azathoth posted:Now, that could be that they've flipped him and he's got a deal, but that leaves a whole other set of questions, namely how the gently caress did they get her legal age doubled? This is the part that confuses me the most. It being a con or them being lovely parents are both plausible and it could go either way and not be surprising. Adding a decade to someone's age seems like a challenge though.
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Inceltown posted:This is the part that confuses me the most. It being a con or them being lovely parents are both plausible and it could go either way and not be surprising. Adding a decade to someone's age seems like a challenge though. But, 10 year olds tend to have all their adult teeth anyway? EDIT: Someone in the comments theorized that the girl has RAD, as an Eastern European adoptee with special needs, and the first family that adopted her thought they were getting a feel good savior story with an easy kid and got someone with, well, special needs, so they ditched her to a rehoming network. That's where this family with a high profile special needs prodigy kid steps in, assuming they can 'fix' her too and get twice the publicity... I mean her potentially having behavioral issues doesn't even matter, they brought it up bc they apparently do work with adoption and see a lot of kids get abandoned bc oops turns out they're real kids with behavioral problems and not perfect angelic props. PetraCore has a new favorite as of 01:13 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Imperador do Brasil posted:A local one my wife just sent me. Other than the gross misuse of the term “arrest papers”, it paints a pretty horrifying picture of this kid’s miserable excuse for a life. This happened about 15 minutes from me.  This comment on that article was a giant red flag for me.
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Kiebland posted:
E: To expand, I don't mean I know them or something. This is just typical abuser behavior. Children don't coordinate smear campaigns. Read "Why Does He Do That" by Lundy Bancroft. E2: He also has books specifically about child abuse but I haven't read them FactsAreUseless has a new favorite as of 01:36 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:This person is a child abuser. This kind of rationalization was part of my abusers pattern. They would minimize or rationalize abuses to any people I could talk to and would have them telling me that there wasn't anything wrong with what they were doing to me. It was really one of the most awful parts as a child, realizing society at large was just okay with abusing kids, as long as it sounds reasonable or justifiable to another abuser or abused kid.
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FactsAreUseless posted:This person is a child abuser. Sometimes kids will lie about pretty serious things, sometimes they can get elaborate with it, but that's the exception, not the rule, and it's even rarer from what little I know for claims to be completely fabricated instead of misdirected. If multiple kids are making the same claims and backing up each other's claims, that's damning.
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I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who got major abuser vibes there.
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Kiebland posted:I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who got major abuser vibes there. Oh so that's why my eyes glazed over trying to read it.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Oh so that's why my eyes glazed over trying to read it. A common self-defense mechanism.
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Airplane accident chit chat: Incredibly detailed breakdown of the Lion Air 610 accident, how much of a role that undisclosed new system in the 737 Max (MCAS) may have actually had, and the extra factors that played out. Includes such unnerving things as seven pilots crammed into a two-person simulator and receiving credit for completing the simulation for simply having watched two other trainees do it. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/magazine/boeing-737-max-crashes.html
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Wasabi the J posted:This kind of rationalization was part of my abusers pattern. They would minimize or rationalize abuses to any people I could talk to and would have them telling me that there wasn't anything wrong with what they were doing to me.
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Wow, that article stans Boeing to a truly shameful degree.quote:Although Boeing’s designers were aware of timetables and competitive pressures, the mistakes they made were honest ones, or stupid ones, or maybe careless ones, but not a result of an intentional sacrifice of safety for gain. It's not as if multiple newspapers -- including, I think, the Times -- have documented people protesting unsafe decisions and being ignored. Or as if there have been deep dives into Boeing's safety culture that demonstrated slackness. I also question the explanation that only military flyers, or flyers who fly small planes for fun, ever develop airmanship.
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1000 umbrellas posted:Airplane accident chit chat: This is a good article, but I worry it might have come about of a need to deflect the plane's failings onto the poor and non-white. edit: ^^^ yeah, that too.
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The unnerving part's gonna happen when he gets off for the third time and finds his fourth black, homeless kid to groom and murder https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/1174155220378513408?s=19
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Also "Airbus is bad and should feel bad" is irrelevant to an article on Boeing crashes.
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Eh, most of my enthusiasm came from the technical explanations. I find the ghost flight/controlled flight into terrain/death spiral poo poo to be truly harrowing. I enjoyed learning about the functionality of the myriad systems in place to eliminate that risk (that still inevitably fail), and, as someone who recently acquired an old truck and is thick in the process of troubleshooting, swapping parts, clearing the computer, hoping the repair sticks, and repeating, I am amazed to discover that commercial airline mechanics do basically the same thing.
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MizPiz posted:The unnerving part's gonna happen when he gets off for the third time and finds his fourth black, homeless kid to groom and murder This one survived at least.
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1000 umbrellas posted:Eh, most of my enthusiasm came from the technical explanations. I find the ghost flight/controlled flight into terrain/death spiral poo poo to be truly harrowing. I enjoyed learning about the functionality of the myriad systems in place to eliminate that risk (that still inevitably fail), and, as someone who recently acquired an old truck and is thick in the process of troubleshooting, swapping parts, clearing the computer, hoping the repair sticks, and repeating, I am amazed to discover that commercial airline mechanics do basically the same thing. Oh, I agree with you; the bits about what's going on mechanically are fascinating. (As are, sadly, the explanations of why nothing will be revealed and nothing will be done.) I think what the author describes as happening in Indonesia is not what happens in more safety-intensive countries. Of course, commuter air, God help you.
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Beyond the technical details, the whole thing seems to boil down to: Regulators: If you release a new plane model, you need to train all pilots on that model and not just assume they can fly it safely. Airlines: But that costs money! Aircraft Manufacturers: What if we made a new plane model but just called it the same thing as an old plane model? Regulators: *shrug* *plane crashes because pilots weren't properly trained on the 100% not new model of aircraft they were flying* Regulators, Airlines, and Aircraft Manufacturers, in unison: How could we have foreseen that this would happen?!?
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pookel posted:The fact that this person had this reaction to a story about a kid who was forced to sleep naked on the floor within a small square of tape, monitored with security cameras, is pretty horrifying. For this sort of abuser, they'll take any possible chance to bring up excuses like the children lied either on their own or were coached, Family Services happened to come on that one day everything was a mess instead of any other day when everything was in perfect order and clean, or they were only disciplining their kids to learn respect and the neighborhood busybodies called the authorities...etc. They have to constantly cry out how they were wronged as if repeating it makes it reality rather than they were abusive.
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