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nesbit37 posted:Not sure if I should still be posting this stuff in this thread since Bee Lives is no long on Kickstarter, but I don't know where else to put it. Anyway, bees in the news! Well, sort of. Science just put their review about Bee Lives up, which still blows my mind that they review board games (ok, they've reviewed 4 board games in 130 years). Anyway, pretty big deal at least in my world. They are the 2nd most influential general science journal in academia, just behind Nature. Now you just need to get a review in Nature. C’mon, why settle for just one?
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Anyone know what the deal with Brazil shipping prices is? It seems like whenever its quoted it's something like 5x the next highest price, and I swear I remember seeing a kickstarter that listed something like "Brazil: Arrange to have the game shipped to someone in another country you can pick it from" in its shipping section.
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The Moon Monster posted:Anyone know what the deal with Brazil shipping prices is? It seems like whenever its quoted it's something like 5x the next highest price, and I swear I remember seeing a kickstarter that listed something like "Brazil: Arrange to have the game shipped to someone in another country you can pick it from" in its shipping section. I would guess "the insane fascist running Brazil has decided to try to milk the import process for as much as he can."
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Sep 17, 2019 21:07
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It's because no one wants to ship Brazil. It is notorious for losing packages, and then people expect it to be reshipped, and then their postal service loses it again, and they want you to reship it again, ad nauseum...
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Sep 17, 2019 21:20
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man i really want to back that mech game but shipping is going to be insane
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Sep 17, 2019 23:58
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Doorknob Slobber posted:shipping is going to be insane  
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Sep 18, 2019 00:08
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the usa at least is dropping out of the international shipping union next month so I wouldn't put any faith in any estimates rough or exact
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Doorknob Slobber posted:the usa at least is dropping out of the international shipping union next month so I wouldn't put any faith in any estimates rough or exact Yeah this is the real problem. They're estimating prices to triple on shipping to/from US.
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Sep 18, 2019 00:47
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah this is the real problem. They're estimating prices to triple on shipping to/from US. Shouldn't using cargo shipping (and not the postal service) to a distribution centre in the US and then shipping from there insulate against the worst of it? Postal shipping to/from the US is a big unknown though.
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Sep 18, 2019 00:54
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isn't cargo shipping how most of the Big KS's do stuff anyway
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Sep 18, 2019 04:36
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Brazil is a nightmare to shop products into, yeah. This is mainly because you need to pay import duty on a commercial package when it arrives, and the only way to do this is to have your company registered and based in Brazil. It’s actually been this way longer than Bolsonaro was in power - we had this problem with the Legacy 2e kickstarter, particularly relevant cause my co-author was Brazilian. We ended up sending him like 20 copies as ‘author gifts’, and I’m sure he did nothing as unethical as sending some on afterwards to kickstarter backers.
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New edition of SLA Industries is being kickstarted the now- SLA Industries: 2nd Edition  If you've not heard of it, it's a Splatterpunk, horror-noir-y sci- fi setting set in a horrible corporate dystopia. You play as operatives, highly trained individuals who It's already funded, and the stretch goals all seem reasonable.
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Sep 18, 2019 14:45
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Weirdly, I came here to search for SLA posts to back up an argument on Facebook. It's worth reading through this thread to find out why I have little in the way of hope for another SLA kickstarter.
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nesbit37 posted:It's because no one wants to ship Brazil. It is notorious for losing packages, and then people expect it to be reshipped, and then their postal service loses it again, and they want you to reship it again, ad nauseum... Apparently the Italian mail system is largely the same? I did a custom run of shirts last year for listeners, and we had an italian buyer, so when I researched how to mail there all the websites I found were like "Mail that poo poo to Switzerland and have someone drive it down, everyone in Italian mail is a corrupt thief." Might have just been some good old-fashioned prejudice, I dunno.
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theironjef posted:Apparently the Italian mail system is largely the same? I did a custom run of shirts last year for listeners, and we had an italian buyer, so when I researched how to mail there all the websites I found were like "Mail that poo poo to Switzerland and have someone drive it down, everyone in Italian mail is a corrupt thief." I work with an Italian architect who said she specifically left the country because she got sick of all the corruption and bribery she had to deal with so i wouldn't be surprised if the mail system has similar issues.
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There are many problem countries for shipping. Brazil gets brought up all the time, though. It is definitely the most infamous for shipping woes on KS. When I was setting things up for Bee Lives my EU Fulfillment partner, who was also doing our RoW orders, strongly urged me to not to ship to a bunch of countries because in their experience, they always just resulted in costing more for the creator in the long run for resending packages and extra games. This list was so long I put one up instead of countries we would ship to, which is: European Union, USA, Australia, Bahrain, Bermuda, Canada, Chile, Faroe Islands, French Polynesia, Gibraltar, Hong Kong, Iceland, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, Liechtenstein, Macao, Monaco, Malaysia, Norway, New Zealand, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, United Arab Emirates nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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glitchkrieg posted:Weirdly, I came here to search for SLA posts to back up an argument on Facebook. Yeah, I get that, though I think that had a lot to do with the old one being a minis Kickstarter; this one being a book should have fewer issues. A new minis system, new range of minis, plus RPG rules all seems like it was a big ask. This just being a book and GM screen send a lot more manageable. Plus, after the minis Kickstarter failed, the Nighfall people put together and self-funded production of a book full of RPG stuff to go with the minis game, and it was really nice, good production, content, and art throughout. Delivered it alongside the minis from the Kickstarter, it was really good. That's less of a "they delivered eventually", and more of a "they have produced a high quality book recently", so I think they should have a handle on what's needed to produce a good RPG book, content, effort, and cost-wise. But it's fair enough to be wary; at this point it's funded so if you're interested but worried, buying it retail after seems a decent option.
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I'm currently not 100% sold on maintaining my pledge to the SLA Industries Kickstarter (I pledged so I could ask questions in the comments). Main point of concern is that they seem to be super-keen on the idea of them telling this lovely story over the course of the product line, which reeks of metaplot poo poo where the game designers treat the GM and players alike as audience rather than realising that their job is to provide the GM and players with the tools they need to do their own story, rather than presenting a centrally-dictated story for them to coo at. It's very 1990s, and if the thinking of the SLA Industries guys hasn't actually moved on from 1993, why should I move on from my 1993 copy of the rulebook, yaknow?
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SLA is a strange RPG. I’ve always been a fan of the setting for just how weird it is and the bleakly poetic nature of a lot of the setting and prose. It’s also an intensely political RPG in a way that’ll completely pass by anyone who didn’t live in Glasgow, Scotland in the 80s/90s. It’s being a special operations soldier, sitting for three hours in a dole office waiting for a job where you will use a smart gun or predator wrist knives to kill rat-men or giant evil pigs in a sewer for maybe the price of your bullets back, those other guys you fought don’t count because you weren’t issued the paperwork for them. It’s a game about climbing the greasy pole of corporate politics, where in the background reality has probably been molded to the whims of your insane company founder. It’s Shadowrun, set in Scotland, where there is only one megacorp and you all work for it as disposable highly trained troopers for a city that is bluntly envious of your standard of living. Also the city is surrounded by a post apocalyptic wasteland. They are in the midst of revising the back story and changing the game mechanics. I’m mostly positive about the games revised backstory, they are explaining the metaphysics more, the Truth is very different and isn’t as caustic to your enjoyment of the game. They have a QuickStart out as a rules preview and they seem to be changing from their old crazy system with different numbers of actions to dice pool/single combat action model which I’m ambivalent towards as dice pool/single action is fairly flavorless as an RPG system. It’s better than doing 5e D&D or a random PbtA/FATE skin I suppose. I thought around the time of the credit crunch was actually the time to revisit SLA and tell the story of the fall of SLA as the fall of capitalism but I’m not sure they are going to go in that direction at all and I’m not sure how well Shadowrun: Wageslave Glasgow plays in the current environment of RPGs. When I was talking to WordForge about it at the UK Games Expo I encouraged them to get out a great adventure or campaign to help sell the setting and the play loop and they indicated they had plans in that direction at least. Regardless I’ve backed it.
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On the plus side, the collapse of Shadowrun 6e offers something of an opening for an astutely marketed cyberpunk-plus-monsters game.
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Collapse? What's happened with Shadowrun 6E? I knew they had a new edition out and it was janky and had a backlash but that seems par for the course for post-FASA editions of the game.
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Warthur posted:Collapse? What's happened with Shadowrun 6E? I knew they had a new edition out and it was janky and had a backlash but that seems par for the course for post-FASA editions of the game. A prominent Actual Play group abandoned it publicly in a two hour livestream of the many problems it presented them with.
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Here's their recording of the stream. One of the many problems is that they had to houserule boatloads of crap within the first two episodes. They seem like cool people as well and didn't want to make prospective players think the game was more playable than it is.
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Yeah, maybe I overstated it with 'collapse'. Sounds like a real bad version of the game though.
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Poor Shadowrun. It deserves so much better.
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Flipswitch posted:Poor Shadowrun. It deserves so much better. Shadowrun: Thought of Edge and died.
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Flipswitch posted:Poor Shadowrun. It deserves so much better. Counterpoint: no it doesn't.
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But without Shadowrun, how will the bulk order neon d6 industry stay in business?
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Joe Slowboat posted:But without Shadowrun, how will the bulk order neon d6 industry stay in business? In the grimdark future of neon d6s, Warhammer 40K is all you need.
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potatocubed posted:'cortexrpg.com' is a dead link? Works for me? I have never had an interest in Cortex so I don't really have much context for what this means for the project. It seems kind of weird that a fanwiki host bought an RPG?
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That Old Tree posted:Works for me? Fandom actually bought the people who made the D&D Beyond digital toolset last year, which helps explain why they might be interested in branching out more in that direction, though honestly Cortex seems like a strange followup.
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Warthur posted:Collapse? What's happened with Shadowrun 6E? I knew they had a new edition out and it was janky and had a backlash but that seems par for the course for post-FASA editions of the game. In short: the game designers weren't competent, the editors... didn't apparently edit anything, and they skipped playesting to get to print before GenCon. 6e is so bad the Actual Play groups who got it early to do promos for it are dropping out because they'd need to houserule entire central mechanics to be playable. Edit: When I say 'not competent' I mean they failed the basic mathematical underpinnings of their ruleset such that attributes and skills are priced the same for advancement, but differently in character creation, such that you can have as much as a 100 karma swing building the same character sheet depending on your order of operations. Not to mention all the rules copy/pasted from 5e that reference things like Limits which no longer exist in the new mechanics, and leaving out other rules like what a starting Essence rating should be because the editors were making assumptions based on prior knowledge rather than reading the text. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Sep 19, 2019 |
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nesbit37 posted:Not sure if I should still be posting this stuff in this thread since Bee Lives is no long on Kickstarter, but I don't know where else to put it. Anyway, bees in the news! Well, sort of. Science just put their review about Bee Lives up, which still blows my mind that they review board games (ok, they've reviewed 4 board games in 130 years). Anyway, pretty big deal at least in my world. They are the 2nd most influential general science journal in academia, just behind Nature. I see your failed Goon project is going to be at Spiel this year. Will the failed Goon also be in attendance?
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Liquid Communism posted:In short: the game designers weren't competent, the editors... didn't apparently edit anything, and they skipped playesting to get to print before GenCon.
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Jedit posted:I see your failed Goon project is going to be at Spiel this year. Will the failed Goon also be in attendance? Indeed he shall. We're on hall 5, booth 5k108. Will be interesting. Never been to Spiel, attendee or otherwise, and it's been a decade since I've been to Germany.
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nesbit37 posted:Indeed he shall. We're on hall 5, booth 5k108. Will be interesting. Never been to Spiel, attendee or otherwise, and it's been a decade since I've been to Germany. Spiel is amazing, and it's a shame you won't be able to see it as a visitor. You're on my list of places to visit already, so I shall see you there.
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That Old Tree posted:Works for me? MargretWeisProductions built their brand around licensing properties to shove into Cortex, so if a fanwiki were going to buy a RPG it would be cortex. I think it’s more weird that they owned Beyond.
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