Rust Martialis posted:Syntax error. Nested loop
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Sep 19, 2019 17:03
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kustomkarkommando posted:Aye it's a joke but too many people are already taking it fecking seriously I mean when the choice is between Social Democrats & Trots I'm not sure a 3rd choice is a bad thing. I'm not sure a funny Twitter account is the right choice but eh, I've heard of worse ideas.
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Sep 19, 2019 17:06
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kustomkarkommando posted:The Irish left is split between Solidarity and PBP (two trotty parties in an electoral alliance), the social democrats, Labour (unreconstructed third way tendancy) and a handful of left leaning independents - together they command about 10% of seats, we recently lost two of the most high profile left affiliated independents who won Euro seats and thus by-elections are scheduled to replace them but I'd be surprised if those where filled by like minded individuals as that's a straight one winner race and a lot of their appeal is personal. I was in a discussion on fb with some Irish people about the housing crisis (specifically galway) and asked about whose got the best housing policy, a brief perusal of the websites seemed to indicate labour but I was met by a bunch of people saying they don't trust them at all after going into coalition with fine Gael and delivering hard austerity after campaigning against it, is that a widespread sentiment and is it accurate?
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Sep 19, 2019 17:20
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Coohoolin posted:I was in a discussion on fb Wait hold the phone, a discussion? unheard of.
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Sep 19, 2019 17:22
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Diet Crack posted:Wait hold the phone, a discussion? unheard of. Lol I've been following a flat search group for galway from when I was considering moving there a few years ago and the landlordism has become so absurdly predatory that it's been steadily radicalising people, pretty interesting to watch. A few years ago it was expensive but kind of doable, now students are lucky if they can find a shared room for 700 euros each that they have to leave on the weekend with all their poo poo so the landlord can Airbnb it.
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Sep 19, 2019 17:25
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Coohoolin posted:I was in a discussion on fb with some Irish people about the housing crisis (specifically galway) and asked about whose got the best housing policy, a brief perusal of the websites seemed to indicate labour but I was met by a bunch of people saying they don't trust them at all after going into coalition with fine Gael and delivering hard austerity after campaigning against it, is that a widespread sentiment and is it accurate? Oh yes absolutely nobody trusts Labour as far as they can throw them - they have been trying a bit to reconnect with their base and Howlin, their current leader, has seemed to recognise that a shift left is needed after propping up FG's government of cuts which they where completely complicit in. They where almost completely wiped out at the last GE and turned in their worst result in an election ever. But there's still people like Alan Kelly actively eyeing up the leadership who is p much uniformly despised as a swaggering stuffed suit - Labour is going to have slowly rebuild trust in a hopes of recapturing voters who went to SF and now appear to be gearing up to go Green (it's never gonna go full Corbyn or anything because frankly Irish Labour has never been that explicitly Socialist apart from brief flirtations in the 30's and 69)
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Sep 19, 2019 17:28
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kustomkarkommando posted:Oh yes absolutely nobody trusts Labour as far as they can throw them - they have been trying a bit to reconnect with their base and Howlin
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Sep 19, 2019 17:29
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Any card carrying MCR goons coming along tonight to see if we can make Lucy Powell face reselection? ( I know she's not the worst, but she's not the best either) edit: lawl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X0oTFzvAwQ&t=3172s Desiderata fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 19, 2019 |
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Sep 19, 2019 17:33
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Coohoolin posted:I was in a discussion on fb with some Irish people about the housing crisis (specifically galway) and asked about whose got the best housing policy, a brief perusal of the websites seemed to indicate labour but I was met by a bunch of people saying they don't trust them at all after going into coalition with fine Gael and delivering hard austerity after campaigning against it, is that a widespread sentiment and is it accurate? Pretty accurate. They seemed to have taken a note from your Liberal Democrats. Ran on a platform of no fee increases and then supported Fine Gael (our tories) in implementing the hikes. They also supported the government for a full term and got decimated by the electorate the first chance they got. A lot of the anger was over an attempt to privatize water and giving contracts for related work to a billionaire previously indicated in corruption over government contracts the last time Fine Gael were in power. They were also seen as our of touch. Evidenced by one of their ministers bringing a case of false imprisonment against youths and adults who protested who co-opting a graduation at a community college in a working class area ravaged by austerity. I did once speak to a TD from labour at the afters of a socialist talk. He was quite insistent that they did the right thing, that Fine Gael wanted to privatize all our state assets in a fire sale and that they were able to limit the excesses. He also mentioned that the more revolutionary members of the party and left in general would have preferred to stay out and let Fine Gaels unbridled Austerity cause the populace so much suffering that they rise up and form a new Left wing government, free from our historical flip-flopping from centre-right to right-wing governments between the two main parties. How much of that was true and how much was self justification for propping up a right wing government so they could get cushy government and ministerial pensions, I couldn’t say.
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Sep 19, 2019 17:39
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https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/1174691190349975553?s=21
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Sep 19, 2019 17:57
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Remainder of country still trying to figure out why Have I Got News For You continues to exist.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:10
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https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/1174732646376718336
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Sep 19, 2019 18:12
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Lol at you of all people calling out that tweet
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Sep 19, 2019 18:13
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loving  that they're trying to spin Juncker saying something he's said many times before as some sort of massive breakthrough"we can get rid of the backstop" is literally only half the phrase and the less important half at that
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Sep 19, 2019 18:14
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Rarity posted:Lol at you of all people calling out that tweet That was the joke you ninny
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Sep 19, 2019 18:15
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The answer is definitley irish reuinification 
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Sep 19, 2019 18:15
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https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1174664722995732480
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Sep 19, 2019 18:15
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Yes it was people on Twitter who changed the focus of the story and not the BBC attacking the father for his politics
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Sep 19, 2019 18:17
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njsykora posted:Remainder of country still trying to figure out why Have I Got News For You continues to exist. Because Frankie Boyle gets too many complaints, half the point of the show is to pimp the profile of whatever BBC contracted presenter is hosting it that week, and its easier to show 9gag pictures/gifs about cats falling over pretending they are related to whatever politican is trending at the moment.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:18
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It's galaxy o brain, he's contractually obligated to be wrong about everything.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:18
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happyhippy posted:Because Frankie Boyle gets too many complaints, half the point of the show is to pimp the profile of whatever BBC contracted presenter is hosting it that week, and its easier to show 9gag pictures/gifs about cats falling over pretending they are related to whatever politican is trending at the moment. I didn't actually know that's basically what the show had become since I haven't watched it in years. I assume they still have Tories on regularly under the guise of mocking them but also not really and of course provide another venue for Avalon to further dominate TV comedy.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:24
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It's mainly Ian Hislop bring oh so sensible
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Sep 19, 2019 18:24
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Just catching up on the PraxisPod from when I was away, very much enjoyed the line that Rory Stewart "looks like a horse in a oval office suit". https://praxiscast.podbean.com
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Sep 19, 2019 18:25
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WhatEvil posted:very much enjoyed the line that Rory Stewart "looks like a horse in a oval office suit". Oh for gently caress sake we just had this debate
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Sep 19, 2019 18:27
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https://twitter.com/latikambourke/status/1174709973546389505?s=21 Lmao
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Sep 19, 2019 18:28
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https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1172164646918348802
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Sep 19, 2019 18:31
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Rarity posted:Oh for gently caress sake we just had this debate Hmm?
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Sep 19, 2019 18:31
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WhatEvil posted:Hmm? Criticising people for their appearance (especially when they have odious politics to go after)
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Sep 19, 2019 18:37
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I think the conclusion that we reached was that it was poor form to make fun of people for immutable features like their face and better to make fun of them for controllable features like being called Roderick James Nugent Stewart OBE FRSL FRSGS MP because hahaha gently caress me I think I just summoned five tories to my house pronouncing that.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:38
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Christ, he’s not usually this wrong. :/
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Sep 19, 2019 18:44
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What has he ever been right about?
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Sep 19, 2019 18:45
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i heard it as the horse bit being because he always tilts his head to the side and the oval office suit because he's dressed up as rory stewart, a oval office.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:45
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The_Doctor posted:Christ, he’s not usually this wrong. :/ You wot mate?
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Sep 19, 2019 18:47
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forkboy84 posted:I mean when the choice is between Social Democrats & Trots I'm not sure a 3rd choice is a bad thing. I'm not sure a funny Twitter account is the right choice but eh, I've heard of worse ideas. The Social Democrats in Ireland are a very new party. Initially, they were led by two former Labour members, one of them who was elected as a Labour TD. They are not super left, but honestly they wouldn't be too far removed from Corbyn and UK Labour, if less bombastic about their ideas. We still have a (mostly) public transport system, and the biggest left issue right now is housing, of which they are in chorus with everyone but Fine Gael and Fianna Fail. S-PBP have a bunch of very good orators in their party, and do well about getting involved with social issues. However, I personally cannot support PBP directly. They organise on a cross-border basis and in the EU referendum they backed Leave and are generally Lextiers, it seems. Personally, I support SF in my area because they are the most left leaning party who organise here. I wish there was a more leftist choice or that SF themselves were better than soft social democrats. Ah well! ISF seems to tack left on a lot of issues. They advocate for social housing and are in support of migrants/against our direct provision system. I seriously doubt they will organise on a proper level, but I would like to see them use this stunt to shine a light on left-leaning local candidates for the next Dail election. Engage them with a joke or meme and then say "right if you actually support this here is the candidate in Dublin South you should vote for" Something that needs to be remembered is that the left in Ireland has been historically weak when compared to other European nations. Our politics have always been dominated by the centre-right, with the main two parties gaining 60-80% of the overall vote and Labour taking most of the rest, and then supporting (usually) Fine Gael in government.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:49
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ah are we explaining why james obrien sucks poo poo again
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Sep 19, 2019 18:50
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Tarnop posted:Criticising people for their appearance (especially when they have odious politics to go after) If you're making fun of their appearance it's best not to go for a physical characteristic (you wouldn't do it with skin color or disability) and instead go for an aesthetic. Like Boris Johnson looks like someone used necromancy to put the school bully from a 1920s children's book into the 3 day corpse of a BMW salesman from Kent who died showing his mates why circuit breakers were nonsense. He could stop it at any time by not being a shambling approximation of an entitled prick or saying words like 'picaninnies'. The_Doctor posted:Christ, he’s not usually this wrong. :/
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Sep 19, 2019 18:51
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Nuclear Spoon posted:ah are we explaining why james obrien sucks poo poo again I was thinking "meh he's often a liberal but" and only then I realised I confused him with Charlie Brooker. They do look vaguely similar if you squint heavily.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:52
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Making fun of people for their appearances is probably fine if it's just "poo poo hair" rather than "horrific burns victim". MPs are hardly some downtrodden group that shouldn't be mocked.
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Sep 19, 2019 18:53
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WhatEvil posted:Hmm? We regret to inform you Praxispod has been cancelled
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Sep 19, 2019 18:54
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winegums posted:MPs are hardly some downtrodden group that shouldn't be mocked. It's not their feelings people are concerned about, not least because they probably don't read this thread anyway. Would recommend reading the previous discussion if you have questions.
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