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a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

https://twitter.com/LauraLitvan/status/1174020807909171202?s=20

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duck.exe
Apr 14, 2012

Nap Ghost
Air Force One has landed at Moffett Airfield

duck.exe fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Sep 17, 2019

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Spazzle posted:

The transbay tube is not underground, it is a cement tube fastened to the bay floor.

Drowning is real.

I didn't know that! Thought it was a chunnel situation. Well, that sucks rear end!

ringu0
Feb 24, 2013


Reposting from SFBA thread: KQED's Bay Curious did a bit on Transbay Tube

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

LOL. This is going to be litigated for years.

Oh, uh, I guess this is also the space where we go States Rights?

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

FilthyImp posted:

LOL. This is going to be litigated for years.

Oh, uh, I guess this is also the space where we go States Rights?

Texas will obviously have our backs.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
SCOTUS might actually not back him on it either since Gorsuch has been revealed to be a crazy anti-government libertarian in his rulings, he's already broken ranks with the conservatives multiple times because strong central government bad. I'm sure it annoys cop apologist Alito to no end.

That said you dont even need SCOTUS to back California, just for it to get tied up in court long enough for a Dem presidency to come in and drop the suit.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Sydin posted:

That said you dont even need SCOTUS to back California, just for it to get tied up in court long enough for a Dem presidency to come in and drop the suit.
This also.

But, well... I'm spending Election Day 2020 drunk off my rear end or in a sensory deprivation tank.

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

HelloSailorSign posted:

I always get nervous on BART when it goes through the Bay due to the concern of earthquakes and being in a tunnel underwater.

that old ride at Universal Studios Hollywood didn't help any

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5XBfqc3rXs

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
I wonder if my dad still has the full-size VHS tape from the camcorder from when we went. We were right the gently caress next to the tanker truck, if I remember correctly. Made a big impression on young me. As did seeing a game in Candlestick in 1990 or 1991, during which I was terrified another earthquake would happen.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Candlestick stayed in one piece and the thousands inside had at most minor injuries.

That’s the only good thing that can be said about it as a baseball venue.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Craptacular! posted:

Candlestick stayed in one piece and the thousands inside had at most minor injuries.

That’s the only good thing that can be said about it as a baseball venue.

The new park is far nicer.

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Craptacular! posted:

Candlestick stayed in one piece and the thousands inside had at most minor injuries.

That’s the only good thing that can be said about it as a baseball venue.


You got one of those little "Croix De Candlestick" if you powered through an extra innings night game. That was p cool (at least the first time).

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
Newsom signed AB5 :dance:

Now the Uber/Lyft shitheads are gonna probably bring a ballot referendum

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kill Bristol posted:

Newsom signed AB5 :dance:

Now the Uber/Lyft shitheads are gonna probably bring a ballot referendum

I expect some absolutely insane commercials about how Crazy California is trying to kill your job that you're losing money on and the company outright states will eliminate you the moment it can make robot cars work.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Jaxyon posted:

I expect some absolutely insane commercials about how Crazy California is trying to kill your job that you're losing money on and the company outright states will eliminate you the moment it can make robot cars work.

Which, to be fair, is pretty good job security.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Which, to be fair, is pretty good job security.

Uh I think you mean "unaffiliated contractor who has nothing to do with our business in any way" security.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Uber/Lyft/Doordash/etc will file a legal challenge and get a preliminary injunction halting the law. Meanwhile they'll work the other angle of trying to get a ballot proposition going and trot out the full on PR salvo about big government stifling innovation and hating all these working class drivers whose livelihoods depend on the gig economy. Even if that fails and the 9th Circuit inevitably doesn't buy any of Uber's bullshit and sides with California, it'll go to SCOTUS who will in a 5-4 decision agree that yes, saying Uber can't classify their workers as independent contractors even though they perform the key role of the business is a violation of Uber's First Amendment Rights, and the law will be dead.

Not to get too :matters: but the bill probably isn't going anywhere unless the Dems pull an upset of upsets in 2020 and not only control all three chambers, but also have the stones to upset the current ideological paradigm of SCOTUS.

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
It’s not “going anywhere”, it’s gone. It’s law. The lol nothing matters poo poo is tiring, especially when it’s not particularly accurate.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost
Uber is gonna run out of VC sooner or later, they lose a few billion a quarter.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Bastard Tetris posted:

Uber is gonna run out of VC sooner or later, they lose a few billion a quarter.

More or less immediately when we hit a recession.

The infinite money spigot is going to dry up and a ton of companies that should have folded years ago are going to. The big ones might survive, but a big worry for me is all the people who pretended they weren't unemployed by doing gig jobs are going to lose their gig jobs.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Jaxyon posted:

More or less immediately when we hit a recession.

The infinite money spigot is going to dry up and a ton of companies that should have folded years ago are going to. The big ones might survive, but a big worry for me is all the people who pretended they weren't unemployed by doing gig jobs are going to lose their gig jobs.

Even if the companies don’t dissolve as the economy softens the demand for rideshare services will decline, which will have a very similar effect.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
I hope you all are right, I really do. My roommate just had to start doing Door Dash again because gently caress the non-STEM job market forever, and the benefits he'd see from being an actual employee with benefits would be tangibly staggering.

Just feels like there's some fuckery around the corner to try and halt or distort the law. I hope if nothing else Dem state law makers can hold the high ground and continue to refuse the tech lobbies that tried to unsuccessfully get amendments added that would have watered down AB 5, and have apparently already started trying to work law makers to get somebody to sponsor a bill exempting Uber/Lyft/etc when the next session starts in January.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Sydin posted:

Just feels like there's some fuckery around the corner to try and halt or distort the law. I hope if nothing else Dem state law makers can hold the high ground and continue to refuse the tech lobbies that tried to unsuccessfully get amendments added that would have watered down AB 5, and have apparently already started trying to work law makers to get somebody to sponsor a bill exempting Uber/Lyft/etc when the next session starts in January.

While I hear where coming from, and Uber in particular is absolutely insane when it comes to ignoring laws(remember that time they hacked the phones of politicians? j/k they totally got away with that and nobody remembers), they are entirely supported by a pool of bored VC money that is hoping they become the amazon of taxi services and it's not remotely going to be a sustainable business model unless they jack their prices up to a level that's more or less similar to taxis, whereas Amazon is mostly a real-world logistics system selling actual goods.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
Wrong thread.

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kill Bristol posted:

It’s not “going anywhere”, it’s gone. It’s law. The lol nothing matters poo poo is tiring, especially when it’s not particularly accurate.

Do you think these companies will actually comply with the law? Or throw a huge tantrum, do everything they possibly can to obstruct it, then (if it gets that far) declare bankruptcy and blame “burdensome regulations” rather than actually paying their employees well?

Something something you can’t dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools.

acksplode
May 17, 2004



Fly Molo posted:

Do you think these companies will actually comply with the law? Or throw a huge tantrum, do everything they possibly can to obstruct it, then (if it gets that far) declare bankruptcy and blame “burdensome regulations” rather than actually paying their employees well?

Something something you can’t dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools.

Uber and Lyft going bankrupt because this law makes it impossible to run a business by exploiting contract workers at scale kind of sounds like dismantling to me idk!!

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


last night someone made me aware that California's primary was moved up to march and actually matters now :aaa:

i must re-evaluate my volunteer priorities

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
Yeah California is Super Tuesday now, which by my estimate means the left has about 2-3 months to get its poo poo together, lol

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Yeah, we all need to do our part to make Delaney the next president of the united states

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Just let us please go for somebody who isn't Biden or Harris.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Currently that makes either Biden or Warren the next nominee.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Bernie, Biden, and Warren are basically in a three way tie for CA right now.

BUT the results of the first few primaries are absolutely gonna change that.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Wow Harris isn't even doing well here? I heard she was losing momentum after she got 15 minutes of spotlight for calling out Biden, but drat. Not that I'm shedding any tears mind you, ACAB.

Feels like California going with Bernie or Warren early in the primary would be huge.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
It would be.

Kamala, Pete, Beto, and Booker are most likely dead. The only reason Biden is competitive at all is because he's Obama's Guy and low-information think he has "electability" and dumbshit neoliberal voters support his actual trash policies.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Sydin posted:

Wow Harris isn't even doing well here? I heard she was losing momentum after she got 15 minutes of spotlight for calling out Biden, but drat. Not that I'm shedding any tears mind you, ACAB.

Feels like California going with Bernie or Warren early in the primary would be huge.

Harris is polling below Yang in California and it owns.

Also Bernie now, Bernie forever.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Wicked Them Beats posted:

Harris is polling below Yang in California and it owns.

:getin:

quote:

Also Bernie now, Bernie forever.

:hai: I was waffling between Warren and Sanders in the very early goings but then Warren came out and said "no guys capitalism actually works, it's just corrupt people taking advantage of a good system!" and now it's Bernie or death.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
I like Warren ok and she's done some good. She's certainly better than a snake like Harris, a blathering corporate stooge like Biden, or a blando nothing like Pete. My biggest thing is she doesn't seem to have good political instincts, she hasn't agreed to reject corporate money in the general (on account that it would "hamstring" her), and also all the Pod Save America guys love her....those guys are 100% cult-of-meritocracy neolibs at heart so you have to wonder what's going on there.

Basically Warren is a good second-string quarterback at a time where we need an All-Star Hall of Famer.

acksplode
May 17, 2004



Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

My biggest thing is she doesn't seem to have good political instincts
Her rise in the polls since she launched her campaign would say otherwise. I think the only mark against her here is the DNA test. That's a big dumb mark, but it shocked me in part because otherwise she's an excellent politician and a gifted communicator. Her stump speech is a master class in making policy ideas crisp and understandable and selling them with moral urgency, which is why her debate performances have been so good.

But yeah, for all those other reasons, it's still Bernie. I'd vote for Warren, but I'd rather see her in Bernie's cabinet.

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Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Sydin posted:

:getin:


:hai: I was waffling between Warren and Sanders in the very early goings but then Warren came out and said "no guys capitalism actually works, it's just corrupt people taking advantage of a good system!" and now it's Bernie or death.

Bernie's not trying to kill owners and former worker coops either, they're both social democrats. Bernie's just closer to socialism than she is.

I'm going for Bernie in our primary but I'm not gonna cry if Warren wins. I like her despite being capitalist scum.

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