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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Keep safe mate!

It's been a bad week for lots of us here atm.

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Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Bobby Deluxe posted:

The structure of the house affects it as well, hardwood or not. Our oval office neighbour stomps his way round his house in workboots, and because our houses share supporting beams going through the floors and ceilings, we hear every thud, every slammed cupboard, and thanks to the single stud walls most of the market-trader-volume conversations about the most awful backwards poo poo.
I think I'm quite lucky with my flat; I'm at the end of the building, and they're built as duplexes, so you only have sideways neighbours. The sound proofing between flats is surprisingly good too - literally only hear the neighbours kids when one of them has decided to let everyone know they're having a bad day (has happened 2 or 3 times in two years). However you do know when anyone in the building is running the spin cycle on their washing machine.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also yeah I hope you and your mrs are both OK Camrath.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

I would like to also encourage everyone who was participating or cheering for the climate strikes today to join me in committing "Tree Banditry"! It's where you go out in the middle of the night when no one is about and plant trees! It's one of the most effective things anyone as an individual can do to help with climate change and it's fun too. You don't need any special equipment or anything, just a trowel and bottle of water. Reforest the world!

I get my trees from here:

https://shop.woodlandtrust.org.uk/trees

I've planted about thirty five trees around my town (Coleraine, NI) so far.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

You ever feel like H.R Giger and Steve Bannon were separated at birth and Giger spent his entire life having nightmares and making weird sex art based around them, and somehow he was the more normal one?




Alternatively: Imagine what the world could be like if Giger had had Bannon's job.
They were a single person in quantum superposition until they were placed in a machine and told "imagine giant black dicks" and one recoiled in horror and the other said "I'll get the glue gun."

WhatEvil posted:

I know this isn't UKPol but I figure it's appropriate because he's a thread favourite:

Jorbo Pooperson is in rehab for Benzo addiction.

https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-peterson-rehab-wife-cancer-scare-1460399?amp=1
Addiction is poo poo but what is it with these individualist will to power types and winding up addicted to something? I'm not cheering it but it seems something that should be impossible by their own hosed up logic.

Is it just confirmation bias on my part? Rush Limbaugh's another one that comes to mind.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Captain Fargle posted:

I would like to also encourage everyone who was participating or cheering for the climate strikes today to join me in committing "Tree Banditry"! It's where you go out in the middle of the night when no one is about and plant trees! It's one of the most effective things anyone as an individual can do to help with climate change and it's fun too. You don't need any special equipment or anything, just a trowel and bottle of water. Reforest the world!

I get my trees from here:

https://shop.woodlandtrust.org.uk/trees

I've planted about thirty five trees around my town (Coleraine, NI) so far.

What sort of areas are best to plant trees? Seems a waste of time planting trees somewhere where they won't grow or get cut down as soon as they start growing.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Addiction is poo poo but what is it with these individualist will to power types and winding up addicted to something? I'm not cheering it but it seems something that should be impossible by their own hosed up logic.

Is it just confirmation bias on my part? Rush Limbaugh's another one that comes to mind.

I find it genuinely hilarious, personally. If you wanna spend all your time telling people their problems are their own fault then I'm just gonna laugh when you end up in the poo poo.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Captain Fargle posted:

I would like to also encourage everyone who was participating or cheering for the climate strikes today to join me in committing "Tree Banditry"! It's where you go out in the middle of the night when no one is about and plant trees! It's one of the most effective things anyone as an individual can do to help with climate change and it's fun too. You don't need any special equipment or anything, just a trowel and bottle of water. Reforest the world!

I'm intending to keep my allotment and just do wildflowers on it next year.

Clarence
May 3, 2012

Captain Fargle posted:

I would like to also encourage everyone who was participating or cheering for the climate strikes today to join me in committing "Tree Banditry"! It's where you go out in the middle of the night when no one is about and plant trees! It's one of the most effective things anyone as an individual can do to help with climate change and it's fun too. You don't need any special equipment or anything, just a trowel and bottle of water. Reforest the world!
It takes around 250 fully grown trees to offset the average CO2 produced per person in the UK - so the more trees the better!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I find it genuinely hilarious, personally. If you wanna spend all your time telling people their problems are their own fault then I'm just gonna laugh when you end up in the poo poo.
I think maybe they do it because they think if they shout about individualist will to change loud enough they might be able to individualist will to change their own demons.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Dead Goon posted:

What sort of areas are best to plant trees? Seems a waste of time planting trees somewhere where they won't grow or get cut down as soon as they start growing.

Empty/derelict lots. Long verges, gaps in hedgerows. You can plant them in places where the grass does get mowed regularly too if you put down a stake with them. Make it obvious they're there and no is going to go run them over, especially if you make it look like they were planted there by a legitimate authority. If you don't half rear end it, plant a few in a neat row that are all tied to stakes at one end of a public green or whatever most people are just going to assume the council did it you know? Especially if it's somewhere that other trees are already growing nearby.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

The climate strikes today were good. Spare a thought for the child dropped off right outside school and forced to be a scab from a young age.

This weeks been poo poo and weird for a lot of people I know. Solar flares, autumn equinox, whatever the reason at least this dumb week is over.

TACD posted:

Spend more time with the second group. Spending time with people you look up to is an excellent way to become more like them.

Don’t feel bad about identifying with the lovely views group; everybody is wired to enjoy cheap shots and gossip and to hold regressive views at some level, that’s why they’re so pervasive. Immerse yourself in company where those things aren’t acceptable and ‘better’ viewpoints are discussed instead and those modes of thought will become habitual instead.

Ta (& Guavanaut & Coffeetable) - I want to be better, and though I might like the cosiness of junk food and rubbish films, it doesn't really make me any better. I'll still hang around with my older friends as I can't just turn friendship on or off, and we've had some good conversations about trans rights, pornography and taxes (separately) where I feel I've been that 'good' friend to them - but I'll make more of an effort to hang around with newer pals and get into that rhythm.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

I think maybe they do it because they think if they shout about individualist will to change loud enough they might be able to individualist will to change their own demons.

I think they get famous advertising that shite and then, amazingly, become subject to the same systemic pressures of fame that everyone else does, but none of them ever recant their earlier poo poo, they just want an exception to be made for them but everyone else can continue to eat poo poo.

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN
Upset Trowel

Drone_Fragger posted:

I keep joking about designing a guillotine anyone with access to a builders van and some scaffold poles could assemble and never get round to doing it.

I'm handy with Sketchup, let's start a github repo

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I think they get famous advertising that shite and then, amazingly, become subject to the same systemic pressures of fame that everyone else does, but none of them ever recant their earlier poo poo, they just want an exception to be made for them but everyone else can continue to eat poo poo.
The worst case scenario is that he stops being dependent, retcons the whole experience into him doing it purely by the power of his own genius mind, and comes out with a whole new bunch of bullshit about "how I beat the chaos dragon of my addiction using only my corpus callosum and so anybody else who's addicted just can't be bothered doing that" and his followers lap it up.

The best case is that his followers start seeing him as a human subject to outside pressures just like anybody else.

The most probable case is they all get bored and wander off to the next idiot like they did when they found out that Milo was a nonce.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
Just spitballing but I feel like someone who believes in the indomitable power of their own will would be incredibly vulnerable to addiction

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

WhatEvil posted:

I know this isn't UKPol but I figure it's appropriate because he's a thread favourite:

Jorbo Pooperson is in rehab for Benzo addiction.

https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-peterson-rehab-wife-cancer-scare-1460399?amp=1
maybe he should have done his PhD on inherited predisposition to benzo addiction instead; he's always struck me as being one of those psychologists who aren't capable of seeing their own massive, massive red flags. physician, heal thyself, please

it's good that his wife isn't going to die of cancer, though. maybe he'll chill out a bit

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Gum posted:

Just spitballing but I feel like someone who believes in the indomitable power of their own will would be incredibly vulnerable to addiction

I guess that is the core of "I can quit any time I like" :v:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gum posted:

Just spitballing but I feel like someone who believes in the indomitable power of their own will would be incredibly vulnerable to addiction
I suppose looking at the rat park thing, feeling like you're removed from society does make you vulnerable to addiction.

Rat park only did it with cages though, relating to prisoners, the homeless, the marginalized and outcasts; it's interesting if it still holds for people not part of society because "actually, I'm better than society and it doesn't exist really."

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
A lot of people feel like outsiders. Do you think that it's something that is an inevitable part of how atomised late capitalism is, or do you think we are just getting stranger as time goes on?

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

frumpykvetchbot posted:

I'm handy with Sketchup, let's start a github repo



the van door can be used as the blade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPoVNrCZTk

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

justcola posted:



the van door can be used as the blade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPoVNrCZTk

do this one https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/860199590599020544?lang=en

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Josef bugman posted:

A lot of people feel like outsiders. Do you think that it's something that is an inevitable part of how atomised late capitalism is, or do you think we are just getting stranger as time goes on?

The two aren't exclusive, the atomization of capitalism can make us actually stranger.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

WhatEvil posted:

I know this isn't UKPol but I figure it's appropriate because he's a thread favourite:

Jorbo Pooperson is in rehab for Benzo addiction.

https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-peterson-rehab-wife-cancer-scare-1460399?amp=1

lmao

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
I think people who are hyper competitive are very susceptible to becoming addicted to anything due to their dopamine reward cycle being skewed towards getting quick hits.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Gum posted:

Just spitballing but I feel like someone who believes in the indomitable power of their own will would be incredibly vulnerable to addiction

yeah, also benzos are particularly bad that way.

when you've used them for a while and begin to worry, you can find stuff to reassure yourself very easily. they're not very toxic--basically impossible to lethally overdose by themselves. long term use does come with serious mental damage, but you won't notice much since the onset's so slow and gradual. resistance builds quickly, but dependence builds slower, so you won't realize you're hooked before you've had lots of opportunities to convince yourself you're not. also when you quit them you're stuck with the abstinence for months, which sucks immensely. it took me about half a year before i felt back to normal-ish

however, i'm just some random internet idiot, i'm not some wanker writing self-help books about how to attain the happiness i'm obviously incapable of feeling myself and confidently belting out how everyone else is doing it wrong on social media jesus

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Collateral posted:

I think people who are hyper competitive are very susceptible to becoming addicted to anything due to their dopamine reward cycle being skewed towards getting quick hits.

if you're into a quick dopamine fix there's lots of better stuff than benzos bro

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
now, i know that benzos also have paradoxical effects, particularly with regular use. but i think the point still stands

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
Just found TEN packets of Frazzles instead of eight in the multipack I bought, living like a fat king tonight friends

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

if you're into a quick dopamine fix there's lots of better stuff than benzos bro
This isn't going to be another wanking at work derail is it?

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I took twice my prescribed amount of pills the other day because I was in so much pain.

Still hosed - 400mg of Pregabalin, 400mg of Tegratoand 20mg of Amitriptyline.

Pain has stopped though :)

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Dead Goon posted:

I took twice my prescribed amount of pills the other day because I was in so much pain.

Still hosed - 400mg of Pregabalin, 400mg of Tegratoand 20mg of Amitriptyline.

Pain has stopped though :)

Oh, and 100mg of Tramadol and two paracetamol.

Everything is floating my friends and I have the DTs because I drink on top of that and my hands and arms are jerking so much.

I am not proud of this.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I know you have that username but please don't actualize it.

The Deleter
May 22, 2010

Dead Goon posted:

Oh, and 100mg of Tramadol and two paracetamol.

Everything is floating my friends and I have the DTs because I drink on top of that and my hands and arms are jerking so much.

I am not proud of this.

Please don't live up to your username.

E:f,b

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Angrymog posted:

I think I'm quite lucky with my flat; I'm at the end of the building, and they're built as duplexes, so you only have sideways neighbours. The sound proofing between flats is surprisingly good too - literally only hear the neighbours kids when one of them has decided to let everyone know they're having a bad day (has happened 2 or 3 times in two years). However you do know when anyone in the building is running the spin cycle on their washing machine.
I guess the other problem is that most of the rooms are on the side that's attached to his, so when he's on his bullshit there's just the one room where you can't hear it.

I dream of living in a bungalow, and I hope that Corbyn kills all of the olds so that I can afford one.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

if you're into a quick dopamine fix there's lots of better stuff than benzos bro

I wasn't talking about people being susceptible to benzos, but addiction in general. It could be working out, opiates, alcohol, or even collecting stamps. It is completing the reward cycle, and they know it works so they do it over and over again.

Dead Goon posted:

Oh, and 100mg of Tramadol and two paracetamol.

Take care with this stuff, it lowers the seizure threshold, which is different for everybody. I had a grand mal after 200mg. I had never in 42 years had a seizure before that.

Collateral fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 20, 2019

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

Dead Goon posted:

Oh, and 100mg of Tramadol and two paracetamol.

Everything is floating my friends and I have the DTs because I drink on top of that and my hands and arms are jerking so much.

I am not proud of this.

this sucks i'm sorry. have you been through this kind of thing before and do you have anyone who can be near you in case poo poo takes a turn for the worse?

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



OwlFancier posted:

I know you have that username but please don't actualize it.


The Deleter posted:

Please don't live up to your username.

E:f,b

Ta you peeps, I can't type very well cos I'm shaking so much. I only double the dose that one time, but I should probably stop drinking on top of the medication.

Life is pretty poo poo at the moment.

Like, really.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
More info from that thread about the new, totally organic grassroots campaign to stop people saying nasty things to melts:

https://twitter.com/nailheadparty/status/1174822311477895168

Click through and read the whole thing, it's... a trip.

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