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please finally give us a bomber so i can fly it
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 05:08 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 04:48 |
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WHOO! It's time to batten the hatches and set sail for the skies of..
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 05:22 |
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You plan to run it in good old CMANO or in newly announced sequel?
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 05:42 |
The new one, CMO. I already have Tacview (Hi Airgoons!) so it'll make a nice merge. I'm not sure how it'll end up working in the end but with DCS it's possible to rewind/replay an entire mission and focus on different things. Which as an AAR tool would be amazing, again, not sure how it'll work in CMO.
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# ? Sep 5, 2019 18:59 |
Oh man. Maximum excite!
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 21:25 |
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Once we're ready to roll, I'll submit my actual pilot this time. Seriously, I'm so pumped this is coming back. I was so sad that I joined right before the final mission.
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# ? Sep 10, 2019 23:58 |
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aw hell yeah My personal dream is HG: Cold War, full of glorious 1950s jets, but no matter what era I'm in.
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 00:21 |
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I will fight for dogmocracy and booze once again
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# ? Sep 11, 2019 08:39 |
A few folks have PM'd me about ideas. Please do! I've got a picture in my head of what this is going to look like, but more ideas are better. I'm going to wait on the story/plot advancement till CMO releases, but the mechanical side of how HG2.0 will work is something I don't mind discussing. Here's the plan so far :
All in all the goal is to fly more missions with a greater variety of planes and pilots. Procurement will happen probably after every mission. It won't be wide open procurement but based on offerings from suppliers. We can put in special requests, but no guarantee that we'll get them. Depending how the different CMO features impact our gameplay we'll adjust accordingly.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 18:51 |
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1. I am beyond thrilled that we're going to get a sequel 2. If I do have a mechanical suggestion I'd recommend having a rotation of pilots (within reason) so that way even if there is a backlog, people can still be a part of an upcoming mission. Basically have the "fatigued" pilots rest while fresh pilots get rotated in. Stuff like that. 3. We really do need to make sure we can keep doing stuff like accidentally getting cities shelled or have Extraction Rally Races like before. I'm sure that will keep being a thing, but still.
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# ? Sep 14, 2019 21:47 |
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Yooper posted:A few of you have asked me to turn this into a novel. I'd like to do that. At the end of this post will be an interview with MR VC "Warmachine" about how Operation Goose went. The novel I'm going to write will be a retrospective set of interviews with the Hired Goons, opponents, staff, and characters. If you'd like, give me a short bio of your pilot or crew, at the least a "He (or she) served in the Air Force/Navy/Marines/British Navy and likes cake." I'll do what I can to work in your quirks. Major "Bac" was a Strike Eagle backseater with a promising career in the Air Force. He'd just pinned on his oak leaves, done an exchange tour with the ROKAF, and was in line to attend the Fighter Weapons School at Nellis. All that ended in a horrific low-level accident at Red Flag Alaska that killed his pilot and left one leg shorter than the other. Medically discharged, he sunk into a downward spiral that only ended (some would say it continued) when he saw an ad in Playboy Presents: Aviation Week & Space Technology for the Hired Goons. Bac started his career with the Goons in the right seat of one of the Saab trainers. He flew the second mission in Tibet in the little Saab without hitting much. As one of the few Goons with WSO experience, he climbed into the pit of Murphy's newly-arrived Phantom for the Lhasa raid. Murphy and Bac peppered the runway with gliding cluster bombs, helping kick in the door for the Dragonkillers' epic low-level attack. Bac stuck with the Phantom in Angola long enough for him and Murphy to splash a merc MiG-29. However, their luck ran out when they went head to head for a guns-only pass on an Angola Flanker. The Angolan missile broke the Phantom's back and the ejection broke Bac's back. It wasn't until the Balkans that'd be get back in the cockpit, this time in the backseat of a Gripen F. Over the Balkans, Bac and pilot Fungus both became aces, although their liberal use of Meteors and SDBs nearly bankrupted the company. When he wasn't flying, Bac was the Goons' Operation Officer on weekdays and a procurement gadfly on weekends. He also did a stint as the Goons' mission briefer, although he got Briefings Bacarruda posted:Gentlemen, Operation First Impressions is a go! Bacarruda posted:Gentlemen, Operation Black Diamond commences in one hour. Prepare to man your planes. Bacarruda posted:Operation Gorgnard-Falafel Ranger has been approved. Stand by for your briefing Bacarruda posted:Operation Golgotha has been approved, Hired Goons! Bacarruda posted:
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Bacarruda posted:Mission briefing is up! Bacarruda posted:
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Vignettes New York Times posted:Hâyard Günnes: Angola’s Air Mercenaries Hired Goons, Interlude posted:The Major ran his hand over the Gripen's smooth metal skin, feeling the familiar contours of rivets against his fingertips. Each part was right where he remembered it. Pylons, antennas, flaps and plexiglass. Each one sleeping, waiting to be called to action. A Hired Goon posted:“This place smells like poo poo,” Bac muttered to himself. And some other stuff I enjoyed. Quinntan posted:
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# ? Sep 20, 2019 09:23 |
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The Finnish pilot known best as Ventura is not available for comment, claiming to an NDA with a government organization that officially doesn't exist.
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# ? Sep 20, 2019 20:33 |
Bacarruda posted:Major "Bac" was a Strike Eagle backseater with a promising career in the Air Force. He'd just pinned on his oak leaves, done an exchange tour with the ROKAF, and was in line to attend the Fighter Weapons School at Nellis. All that ended in a horrific low-level accident at Red Flag Alaska that killed his pilot and left one leg shorter than the other. Medically discharged, he sunk into a downward spiral that only ended (some would say it continued) when he saw an ad in Playboy Presents: Aviation Week & Space Technology for the Hired Goons. This is awesome, thanks Bac! I'm touring the San Diego Naval Base in like an hour. Pumped to get HG moving again.
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# ? Sep 20, 2019 21:00 |
4 Years Later It all came crashing down in a pile of paperwork, denials, passport revocations and bank account lock downs. Goldman and the New York Teachers Unions backed out of their contracts so quickly that our meager legal team hardly had time to get us out of the country. Then the Hauge came knocking. Except we were just the first, the biggest, the brightest... the most lucrative. But we reached too high, touched the poop, and fell like a hungover Icarus. The following year was an immense shitshow as every two bit organization lined up with whatever crap they could acquire. 3D printed plane factories popped up all over the place. What seemed like a novelty turned into chaos. In the name of commerce and profits planes, SAM's, and radars flooded the market. Across the world, around the globe, triggers hung lightly. In the span of a week three commercial airliners came down. Then a 4th, on its way back to JFK from Mexico City. The world had enough. On January 27th the US Government, in concert with what was NATO, struck. F-35's scoured the globe. Any modern SAM system that was not owned by a domestic government found itself the target of an SDB II barrage. Rafale's swung in with Gripen backup and knocked out any advanced fighters from the sky. The brutal professionalism that had been bleeding away was suddenly stopped and the governments air forces dug in. But not without cost as the waves of hostiles took its toll. For one year it worked. But around the world a niche had been opened, a place for a particular sort of mercenary. Another election approached and little brush wars were warming up. So, in an intense flurry of lobbying, a full set of guidelines, hiring procedures, allowable technology, and rules of engagement were approved. The worlds governments had no stomach to be the police once again so instead they hired it out. There are rules. They are black and white. The Investors now run the front of the business handling contracts, relations, and of course finance. We're in the kitchen making poo poo happen. Certain requirements must be followed. But, as with anything, certain rules may be bent...
3D Printing has created amazing opportunities but the downfalls are becoming rapidly apparent. Old plane technology coupled with race to the bottom pricing has created fleets of aircraft suitable for a single mission. Our maintenance crews are unable to service most of these airframes as they are simply too lovely to survive another round of potential high G maneuvers. A range of missions will become available and we may choose the location. We can also decide to go elsewhere for the next round. Procurement will occur prior to the next mission round and may, or may not, include the same aircraft. Some big personalities (and bigger egos) have emerged in this world. Also of note, some of these missions are available to us as either side... Management will handle the financial wranglings. Luckily we have a man inside, Herbert Kornfeld of Accounts Receivable. He has brought along his CPA "posse", Sir Casio KL7000, AirGoNomic, Kount Von NumbaKrunch and Petty Ka$h. Unfortunately this doesn't do much for our organization at this time but who knows what the future may hold. So here's the nuts and bolts. We'll get rolling on the basics and get this shitshow back on the road. Airframes. Mission. Flight line. Recon. Etc. We'll take our sweet time. We'll start in CMANO and transition to CMO once it's released. We'll refresh the roster down the line, for now we'll focus on procurement. Our amazing team of procurement specialists have reached out to a range of qualified suppliers. Klaus and Pedersen, the Ivanov Brothers, Broadstreet Ford, Lincoln, and Military and Wild Willies Plane Sales and Septic Field Services. Choose One Supplier Klaus and Pedersen 4 - F-4E Phantom II 4 - AJ37 Viggen 8 - SK60C "Dragon Slayers" 1 - SH3W Sea King AEW Ivanov Brothers 4 - MIG-23MLD Flogger K 4 - SU-25T Frogfoot A 8 - SU-17M2 Fitter D 1 - KA-31 Helix AEW Broadstreet Ford, Lincoln, and Military 6 - F/A-18C Hornet 6 - OV-10D Bronco 1 - RQ-1A Predator Wild Willies Plane Sales and Septic Field Services 6 - J-7II Fishbed 4 - Cheetah D 4 - A-4SU Super Skyhawk 6 - Lightning F.6 1 - Shackleton AEW.2 Yooper fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 02:47 |
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Alright, time to get back in the saddle with - hang on, what the gently caress...? ... I'm not sure whether I should be incredibly happy or absolutely goddamn livid to see those planes again, with that nickname.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 02:53 |
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Yooper posted:
CMANO-DB for the RQ-1A posted:Commissioned: 1995 Does buying this immediately get us obliterated by F35s?
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 02:57 |
power crystals posted:Does buying this immediately get us obliterated by F35s? That one is OK as it is an unarmed support asset.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:01 |
wild willies sounds fun.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:09 |
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So are these 3dp?
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:12 |
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quote:Klaus and Pedersen I'll take the SH60s to get the F4Es and AJ37s.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:28 |
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Klaus, "Santa" Klaus
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:29 |
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Yooper posted:A few of you have asked me to turn this into a novel. I'd like to do that. At the end of this post will be an interview with MR VC "Warmachine" about how Operation Goose went. The novel I'm going to write will be a retrospective set of interviews with the Hired Goons, opponents, staff, and characters. If you'd like, give me a short bio of your pilot or crew, at the least a "He (or she) served in the Air Force/Navy/Marines/British Navy and likes cake." I'll do what I can to work in your quirks. Three years after Operation Goose and the fall of Hired Goons 1.0 Davin "Unicorn" Valkri. Hired Goon. One of the first. A tall and slightly built man with a desperate smile, a love of Yuri on Ice, and no prior military experience. The last man on earth you'd expect to be a fighter pilot, never mind an operations planner. And yet he presided over some of the company's grandest successes...and its most tragic failures. We caught up with him after a therapy session--for privacy, the institution will not be named. "I don't blame anyone for anything, really. Everything had to end sometime. We just presided over a few more fiery ends than most. Everyone loves to talk about the flashy successes, the Golgothas and Catlike Treads. Every one of those was earned in blood--if not ours than our opponents', people who could have been Goons but for accidents of birth and recruitment. Did you know that at our end we had over one hundred pilots with no plane, still on the rolls, waiting for a chance to fly? That's how popular we were. We were a drat...brand! And every History Maker, every Ultima Weapon...every painful, agonizing failure...brought them that much closer to the front of the line. And they loved it! It was just 'turnover' for them! They wanted more death in the skies, theirs and ours. I don't blame them for it. The world went mad a long time ago. All we can do is keep our own heads above water. But I'd still like to fly under that livery one day, to have people call me "Unicorn", though I could never fly in an actual air force. Because despite everything, I'd like to believe we were one of the better ones." Yooper posted:Choose One Supplier There's only one option, really. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Sep 23, 2019 |
# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:38 |
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Yooper posted:4 Years Later So, just wanting to help out anyone having trouble deciding how to vote. If you're unsure which aircraft would be best, you can look at which weapons are legal/illegal on each one. 20 nm translates to 37 km, so anything with a range of <37km is usable. I'm leaning towards Ivanov or Wild Willies but haven't made my mind up yet.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 03:44 |
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I can not in good conscience vote for anything that doesn't include Phantoms. Klaus
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 04:18 |
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Given the weapon restrictions Wild Willie is actually really e: plus it's a god drat Avro Shackleton. It's WW2 vintage. e2: On the other hand the best A2G option is probably Ivanov, with Wild Willie being mostly LGBs and dumb bombs. Once again Broadstreet comes up short, those F-18s being designed for BVR stuff. If you want to play with American A2G then K&P is your best bet with Viggens. e3: Taking it back, the shittiest option is by far Broadstreet and Lincoln. Voting for Ivanov TheDemon fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Yooper posted:That one is OK as it is an unarmed support asset. But there's others. The Phantoms are 93, the Frogfeet 94. I should probably say that as someone who's long agitated for buying nothing but horrible garbage planes that are too awful to live, I love these restrictions. I am just confused at how they map onto these proposals. CoffeeQaddaffi posted:I can not in good conscience vote for anything that doesn't include Phantoms. Hello, friend. Unfortunately Willies' has just too much incredible trash and my inner Aircraft Raccoon must vote Willies. As the official description does not include any possessives I am interpreting the canon as that Wild Willies is in fact run by more than one Willy, all equally wild
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TheDemon posted:Given the weapon restrictions Wild Willie is actually really good and has my vote. Those 6x Lightning F.6es have double the A2A range of any other option, it has an AEW (poor Broadstreet...), and it gives us 20 combat airframes which is more than any other option. Came here to say this, those Lightnings have a huge A2A advantage over everything else here since everything else is restricted to basically Sidewinders. Plus I have a soft spot for the Shackleton. So voting Willies. e: also the Migs and the Cheetahs have heaters so our A2A compliment would actually be decently sized.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 04:26 |
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If there's one thing I know, it's that Phantoms only exist to die as mook planes above Area 88. The fact that someone described it as the aircraft raccoon's trash panda choice has me voting Willie
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 04:33 |
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Like, make no mistake, Wild Willie is a heap of trash. But everything here is marginal trash. Like, it's telling that Ivanov probably has one of the best offerings for actual aircraft, and the Viggen is the best strike aircraft in the entire 4 packages. Even those Broadstreet F-18s are reduced to trucking bombs. EDIT: Let's talk about the big problems each of these packages is going to face: Klaus and Pedersen The high-low mix here makes a quantity problem. Yeah, there are 16 planes, but as much of a legacy the SK-60s have, we got rid of them for a reason and they might be the worst plane on offer by anyone. That leaves you with 8 A2A planes, which are also your recon planes, and also your standoff strike planes. Ivanov Recon. You're relying on Ground Search Radar, pre-designated targets, and the MK1 Eyeball. The standoff strike capability here is second to none and the A2A is middling to decent but in order to use that strike capability you have to find your targets... Broadstreet and Lincoln Both A2G and AEW and plane quantity. Literally all you have are bombs and rockets. That said, your Hornets don't have a *bad* air radar, but we've seen how big a gamechanger even a mediocre AEW is. Also only 12 planes compared to 16 or 20 elsewhere. This is the deceptively bad option. Wild Willie Recon. There isn't a single sensor pod in the entire lot. Cheetahs have okay ground search radar, but the Shackleton doesn't have any. Either way ground search in this game is awful and unreliable. This group of aircraft will have a lot of trouble finding ground targets that aren't pre-identified or spotted the old-fashioned way, by eye. Ivanov is the secret good option if only everyone ran out in the open with big crosshairs painted on them, Wild Willie is a meme version of Ivanov, K&P will be great until something goes wrong and then will very quickly fall to pieces, and B&L is dead on arrival. I could see us with anything but Broadstreet and Lincoln. TheDemon fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Sep 23, 2019 |
# ? Sep 23, 2019 04:36 |
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you turn in a stolen nuke and it's NBD, but you do one warcrime and everyone loses their mind. We live in a society Anyway, Klaus and Pendersen let the dagron slaiyers fly again
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 05:07 |
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Wild Willie, it gets the most goons in the air the quickest. I'm sad I finally got a seat in an Intruder right at the end, hopefully this vote gets me into a Lightning ASAP!
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 05:42 |
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Wedge "Triggerhappy" Kree. Some pilots were good. Some pilots were bad. Some pilots had yet to manage to take off without an etch a sketch. Wedge was more of the latter category. A national guard dropout (literally in one case having a 3d plane's cockpit fall out underneath after landing, THEN launch him by ejector seat after) had left him somewhat in need of gainful employment. A series of job interviews and a few desperate attempts at finishing air qualifiers later, he would wake up in some bar somewhere with a pilot's liscence given by some-chap named 'Launchpad' and not sure as to how the bar had managed to have a full freight plane crash through one end and out the other. But! Texchnically allowed to fly (he had a liscence signed by a Disney Duck, no one could ever take that waay from him) now the major issue that Wedge has faced ni his attempts at combat flings is his shooting accuracy. namely that he is accurate at everything but shooting. Wedge has missed both the ground and the sky on separate missions in ways that almost violate the laws of thermodynamics. He has spent thousands of hours imn times in simulators, hundreds of hours flying so lon gas there is something to go up in the sky in, and thousands more hours on any sort of shooting gallery. He still can't shoot worth a drat. He will shoot at a sound. He will shoot on command. He will shoot like some sort of 80's cartoon hero and blaze away and miss someone at a range of five feet. Only the desperate circumstances of the current market and the fact that Wedge.. is a semi decent pilot, actually obeys orders and tries /really/ hard on things has kept him from being too poor to actually afford alcohol in Tijuana.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 06:06 |
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Grumio signing up again. I vote for Willie and because I've been flying a lot of WW2 era bombers lately in my flight simulators I request I be considered for piloting the Shackleton
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 06:52 |
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Putting in a vote for Willie. How will I ever
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 07:29 |
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Wild Willie , let's fly the literal garbage planes.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 07:38 |
I'm back in, but I don't have flavor text ready. That will be my pilots new call sign though, because the vitamin water sponsorship will have run out by now.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 08:27 |
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Wild Willie because it pleases me.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 10:25 |
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Ah hell yeah its happening!!!!!! Gotta vote Wild Willie Peanut is back and ready to ride in whatever ASW/Support plane you need!
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 11:04 |
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Mycroft Holmes will gladly sign up again, provided at some point we finally get a loving bomber.
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# ? Sep 23, 2019 11:46 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 04:48 |
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We're back! And know what, changing my vote to Klaus & Pedersen. The pilot formerly known as Blueshift drifted for a while after the Hired Goons disbanded, briefly considering going back to either teaching physics or joining an ecoterrorist group before signing taking up a job as a bush pilot in his native Australia. After an unfortunate accident involving an emu and a group of former mercenary contacts he was forced to flee the country and try his luck on the international mercenary scene again. Due to his physics background and his refusal to state where he is and not knowing where he's going he's now going by the callsign Schroedinger. PenguinSalsa fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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