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Breitbart Reacts https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1176477661717311489 quote:Great way to get yourself unelected.
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Strange Poon posted:How do we allow people like this to just go about their day? Someone like this deserves no peace or peace of mind. Michael Knowles should never be allowed out in public without having something thrown at him. I'm friends with the person who sprayed him with lavender oil and glitter while he was at UMKC this past Spring.  Unfortunately, she was expelled over it. 
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Sep 24, 2019 16:21
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Chilichimp posted:If that were true, Tucker Carlson already wouldn't have a job. Carlson is a huge draw prime time host, Knowles is a nobody panelist.
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Sep 24, 2019 16:30
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Flesh Forge posted:Carlson is a huge draw prime time host, Knowles is a nobody panelist. right, but he's a literal white supremacist who says repugnant poo poo every single night. If it's possible to "finally go too far for fox news" he'd have hit it long before now. This dipshit will be back in a few months rehabbing on Laura Ingraham's show.
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Sep 24, 2019 17:04
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It turns out that literal white supremacist content makes a lot of money for Fox News  Millions of people tune in to Fox just to see White Genocide Is Real, nobody's tuning in to see Michael Knowlese: I mean maybe, but it'd cost Fox nothing to never have him on again
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Sep 24, 2019 18:25
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Flesh Forge posted:It turns out that literal white supremacist content makes a lot of money for Fox News shameless assholes with no compunction are actually kind of rare.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:30
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So, um, I engaged with a conservative friend of mine on FB regarding a post I made about how wages do not keep up with growth, etc, etc. Casually mentioned that the U.S. used to be opposed to WALLS and quoted Reagan. I got more than a few RWM talking points about people wanting "free stuff" and rebutted that. The wall wasn't even central to my point. I got a post back that the Berlin Wall was designed to keep people IN and not OUT and received a suggestion to "learn my history" and I just...died inside. As if the wall isn't designed to keep Mexican and Central American people IN their respective countries. How in the gently caress am I supposed to engage with this? The RWM brainwashing and the Fox News was strong with this one. She was my mother's childhood friend and we get along. This woman was a hippy dope smoking biker chick liberal when she baby sat me as a kid and, OK, we're not FRIENDS but I mean....WTF? She said "people want free stuff" and not much else, accused me of "putting words in her mouth" when I tried to ascertain her intent by asking her if she thought Americans were lazy and then said "I'm not a racist homophobe deplorable" when I never TOUCHED on race, sex or Hillary. Like at ALL. My whole post was about wage growth and the lack thereof relating to American productivity, which is fair and a fact. I don't think I even mentioned Trump. *checks* I did not. It was like a RWM Alexa was spewing words at me and immediately attempting to deflect and project. So I put words in her mouth but somehow a defensive "racist homophobe" got put in there. It's really loving strange and scary. I started this thread a LONG time ago and suggested that this poo poo permeates more than you'd think. It's like arguing with a Conservabot 3000 sometimes. This poo poo WORKS. "The Berlin Wall was built to keep people IN, not OUT. Learn your history" is supposed to be something I can seriously engage with? Sorry for the rant and maybe this would be better suited to another thread but the whole "Your'e putting words in my mouth/I'm not a racist homophobe" thing just stopped me in my tracks. What are we even discussing?
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Sep 24, 2019 23:32
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I had an interaction like that too recently. I'm pretty sheltered from right-wingers these days, having fled the country back in the Bush years, but I caught up with an uncle on my last trip home and while that went waaaaaay better than expected (he's a retired military IT contractor and his wife is a retired Air Force something, both from Colorado Springs), he included me on a group email and one guy replied all with this weird anger, apropos of nothing in the video he shared. Like the video was Charlie Daniels doing some monologue about "Didja ever see the moon come up over the Great Smokey Mountains... didja ever fish for walleye in the streams of blahblahblah" with some guitar and a montage of flags and national parks. Dude fires back: Thanks for sharing! That was a great video for a great and beautiful country Lets hope we can keep our countries great without the assholes that are trying to bring them down Thanks my friend, Like how do you get so mad watching a video about all the pretty natural parks in the country? Of course there was a completely unnecessary pledge of allegiance at the end of the video, I guess that got him all fired up but drat, what are you doing with your loving life if that's your response to the video? I dunno, I'm pretty lucky that the worst I have to deal with is people always asking me what's up with Trump and why did people vote for him.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:52
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She's trying to deflect to an argument she's more comfortable with having by claiming she's not a homophobe. It has nothing to do with wage growth and she knows that, somewhere, but it's the same programming over and over and over and over. They see something they disagree with and the entire brainsick talking point soup they've accumulated from years of RWM watching, primed by the constant aggrieved frustration from the talking heads, comes spewing out in an anti-thought flack. I tried to talk to my dad about how lovely the pharmacy job market is right now and how it's impossible to get a job unless you have ten years experience as a manager or completed a specialty PGY2 residency and everywhere is swamped because the schools never slowed down, and all he could say was that I obviously don't have a job because I'm white, hiring is discriminatory against white people and his hospital's pharmacy looks like a Coca Cola commercial. It's thought terminating hate all the way down. You have to nail them to the wall on the initial point, over and over and over and over again because they cannot think in a straight line for more than a soundbite's time. That's the programming. They aren't used to putting critical thought to things. If they go critical crazy all you can do is just mock them and block them because it won't end. EDIT: This was in the emergency room checking up on HIS dad, my grandpa, who is well above the usual male life expectancy, survived 5 cancers, recently recovered from a pneumonia and was back in the hospital again because the rehab place they sent him to for recovery saw his X-rays, thought he had a NEW case of pneumonia, put him on abx and hosed up his diabetes medications, and he presented back to the ER within a day because his blood glucose shot up to ~600. This was an incredibly stressful event and that's still what came to mind for him. Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 23:53
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Bryan Fischer over at American Family Radio goes one step further, earlier in the week he no-poo poo said "Carbon dioxide? It's plant food! The more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, the better! We should have MORE emissions, don't let those Gaia-worshipping heathen liberals tell you otherwise!" You might even say...it's got what plants crave!
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Sep 25, 2019 00:30
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Whatever stops a popular uprising and protects profit. They don't have to care if it's true or not because having a coherent and logical philosophical framework for understanding the world and what happens in it is not, nor has it ever been, the objective. This is the just the schoolyard bully running to the teacher because you hit back writ large.
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Sep 25, 2019 00:35
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:
That's more or less what I had to do. I was like "wait. what? I'm talking about income disparity and how this 'booming economy' is not working for us so let's back up and address the links I posted that factually point this out and what I actually said or else...move on" It was so loving weird. Like...I just don't even know. I was lost before I barely started. Who said anything about gay people, deplorables or racists? What the gently caress are you on about? It was very much like a something a robot would write if it were programmed to respond to a liberal. loving depressing is what it was. It wasn't even a conversation.
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Sep 25, 2019 01:50
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I thought Christian Fascists conflated islam and atheism because they think any religion that isn't their specific brand of Christianity is not real, so there isn't a difference between being a Muslim and being an Atheist. Though really, rounding up Evangelicals and putting them on trial for crimes against humanity seems like a good thing.
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Sep 25, 2019 02:18
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BiggerBoat posted:That's more or less what I had to do. I was like "wait. what? I'm talking about income disparity and how this 'booming economy' is not working for us so let's back up and address the links I posted that factually point this out and what I actually said or else...move on" It's not you, it's whoever else used that to argue against her previously. Maybe ask her who told her she's a homophobic deplorable and work outward from there?
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Sep 25, 2019 02:34
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Whatever stops a popular uprising and protects profit. They don't have to care if it's true or not because having a coherent and logical philosophical framework for understanding the world and what happens in it is not, nor has it ever been, the objective. This is the just the schoolyard bully running to the teacher because you hit back writ large. Regarding a popular uprising. Those rich people bunkers for sale somewhere in the midwest are 100% decommissioned ordinance bunkers and you could get the exact location fairly easily if you looked for a decommissioned depots.
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Sep 25, 2019 03:22
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So, umm, how are they handling the Ukraine impeachment news? I’ve heard rumors that some Republican congressmen have been melting down on TV, but I haven’t seen anything.
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Sep 25, 2019 04:48
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What I've seen from my chudfeed is that the Democrats are stupid for jumping in too soon, before they had information, and that Impeachment is intended for Crimes and Misdemeanors. As Trump is not convicted of any of Crime or Misdemeanor in a court of law, and all the Democrats have is unsubstantiated reports of something that might have happened, don't look into it, Impeachment is unconstitutional.
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Sep 25, 2019 06:30
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winterwerefox posted:What I've seen from my chudfeed is that the Democrats are stupid for jumping in too soon, before they had information, and that Impeachment is intended for Crimes and Misdemeanors. As Trump is not convicted of any of Crime or Misdemeanor in a court of law, and all the Democrats have is unsubstantiated reports of something that might have happened, don't look into it, Impeachment is unconstitutional. This is so stupid. "You can't charge a sitting president with a crime, and you can't be impeached unless you've been convicted of a crime!"
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Sep 25, 2019 06:45
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winterwerefox posted:What I've seen from my chudfeed is that the Democrats are stupid for jumping in too soon, before they had information, and that Impeachment is intended for Crimes and Misdemeanors. As Trump is not convicted of any of Crime or Misdemeanor in a court of law, and all the Democrats have is unsubstantiated reports of something that might have happened, don't look into it, Impeachment is unconstitutional. This is really a great line of argument from conservatives because the whole reason for the shortage of information is because none of trump's admin will comply with any requests for information or subpoenas, period. It's basically "whoa, wait a minute now, you can't
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Sep 25, 2019 06:53
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winterwerefox posted:What I've seen from my chudfeed is that the Democrats are stupid for jumping in too soon, before they had information, and that Impeachment is intended for Crimes and Misdemeanors. As Trump is not convicted of any of Crime or Misdemeanor in a court of law, and all the Democrats have is unsubstantiated reports of something that might have happened, don't look into it, Impeachment is unconstitutional. Not sure if Hannity or Limbaugh.
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Sep 25, 2019 08:51
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gently caress them and their "argument" against impeachment. They have no argument it's rationalization after the fact because they'd be against it completely no matter what. There's nothing they would support as long as their orange god continues blessing them with his bigotry.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:56
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Lycus posted:This is so stupid. "You can't charge a sitting president with a crime, and you can't be impeached unless you've been convicted of a crime!" Isn't that why they didnt charge Clinton with rape?
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Sep 25, 2019 12:53
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Can't you impeach a president for pretty much anything if you believe it jeopardizes the safety of the nation? Like various shady legal acts if they may open up the president to blackmail for example.
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Sep 25, 2019 15:21
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yup impeachment is political the president doesn't have to commit a crime. even if trump hadn't committed a boatload of crimes all the corruption of traveling to his own resorts and changing the secret service etc is legal for the most part and he should've been impeached for that alone.
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Sep 25, 2019 15:22
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Glenn Beck and Pat's response to the transcripts that got released: "There's nothing there. Absolutely nothing! Nothing at all! Sure Trump said 'Hey maybe you should look into this Joe Biden thing' but the Ukraine president's response was 'Yes we know and we're hoping you'll help with that' so there's nothing there! And besides, this is a transcript, you can't even hear Trump's tone of voice or inflections, maybe when he was on the phone someone handed him a piece of paper and he was confused by all this stuff he hadn't heard of before and he was saying all of it in the form of a question! Who knows!"
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Sep 25, 2019 16:38
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Twelve by Pies posted:Glenn Beck and Pat's response to the transcripts that got released:
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Twelve by Pies posted:Glenn Beck and Pat's response to the transcripts that got released: poo poo like this makes me think of how Michael Cohen described receiving commands from Trump.
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Sep 25, 2019 16:59
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Also important to remember that the WH specifically says this isn't a "word-for-word transcript" regardless of whatever voice transcription software they used
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Sep 25, 2019 17:14
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Biden has to win the primary now or all this effort was wasted.
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Sep 25, 2019 17:26
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mediaphage posted:Also important to remember that the WH specifically says this isn't a "word-for-word transcript" regardless of whatever voice transcription software they used The bottom of the first page of the transcript explicitly states that it isn't a transcript.
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Sep 25, 2019 17:29
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Relentless posted:The bottom of the first page of the transcript explicitly states that it isn't a transcript. Yes. The one released by the White House. I’m not using it to suggest they’ve left out the real poo poo, just that it’s good to keep in mind as ppl quote things.
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BiggerBoat posted:That's more or less what I had to do. I was like "wait. what? I'm talking about income disparity and how this 'booming economy' is not working for us so let's back up and address the links I posted that factually point this out and what I actually said or else...move on" It's the training. It's a form of gish gallop, they have a memorized list of sound bites and hypothetical questions, and the second they can't answer something you say, they switch topics. My mildly autistic 25 yr old nephew has been cruising reddit or maybe 4chan in all the wrong forums, and a couple holidays ago I got in an argument with him. He was spouting proud boy and stormfront rhetoric. One point was some bullshit about how all welfare should be cancelled because "nobody helped my immigrant family and we thrived" (never mind that he's just disabled enough that he's unemployable and lives with his parents). And the second he couldn't answer my question or refute a fact, he'd switch to saying I "should be against planned parenthood, because they kill more blacks than any hate group", and now we're on to abortion instead of racism. It was insane, but there's a playbook that just infects the mind and trains them to think in this way, and I kind of think it starts with American Christianity and the conscious choice to believe nonsense in the face of facts. If they can come up with just one excuse or sound bite, no matter how implausible or logically fallacious, it pacifies them into believing really horrible poo poo. The best thing I hit him with was when he started saying genuinely hateful things, I asked him how that belief is compatible with Jesus' teachings. He considers himself a true believer so it really shut him down, I almost made him cry. Then I ratted him out to his mom (my sister) and told her she needs to police what he reads because he's on the road to buying a gun and joining the god drat KKK. The sad part is that he's really a sweet and soft kid, so it was a real shock to hear him going down that path. But I'm working on it.
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Sep 25, 2019 18:07
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The GOP sent out talking points to democrats and tried to recall the email.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:The GOP sent out talking points to democrats and tried to recall the email. TeNtH dImEnSiOnAl ChEsS.
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Sep 25, 2019 21:41
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At first I thought it would be fake talking points to make the GOP look good, but never assume cunning when they gently caress the dog.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:19
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Jurgan posted:So, umm, how are they handling the Ukraine impeachment news? I’ve heard rumors that some Republican congressmen have been melting down on TV, but I haven’t seen anything. Last night Hannity was saying (1) the Democrats haven't even seen the transcript and already they're talking about impeachment so they obviously don't care what's in the transcript they just hate Trump (2) they've been trying to impeach Trump since day 1, they'd impeach Trump for sneezing if they could, so obviously Trump did nothing wrong (3) how unfair is it that the President can't even have a phone call without someone listening in on it for evidence of crimes!
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Sep 25, 2019 22:21
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Has Greg from Fox Force Five getting mad about talking points been posted? https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1176974036657684481?s=19
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Anderson Cooper reacts to to Fox & Friends interview with the WH press secretary has yet to hold a press briefing since taking over in July. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/24/ridiculist-stephanie-grisham-white-house-ac360-vpx.cnn edit: Also, I've been commuting really early in the morning lately and stumbled upon something called "Coast to Coast AM. It's...uh...really something. https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/bean-bill/22520 Not even sure if it's "right wing" or not but it's on the same channel that plays Rush and Sean and those guys. It had aliens, demons, exorcisms, ghosts and a whole bunch of weird callers. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Sep 26, 2019 |
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Flesh Forge posted:I wasn't specifically chastising you, but rather the general idea of "debating" flagrant racist bullshit. Even asking "where's the proof this is true"* just invites further propagation of that bullshit, imo it only deserves scoffing and mocking. Ah, okay, my apologies. It seemed a little strange, because I don't disagree with you and didn't think there was anything in my post which indicated that. In this case, it'd be less of a question to ask them to answer in good faith, and more a good way for you/those who are uncertain to know what was going on. LloydDobler posted:It's the training. It's a form of gish gallop, they have a memorized list of sound bites and hypothetical questions, and the second they can't answer something you say, they switch topics. My mildly autistic 25 yr old nephew has been cruising reddit or maybe 4chan in all the wrong forums, and a couple holidays ago I got in an argument with him. He was spouting proud boy and stormfront rhetoric. One point was some bullshit about how all welfare should be cancelled because "nobody helped my immigrant family and we thrived" (never mind that he's just disabled enough that he's unemployable and lives with his parents). And the second he couldn't answer my question or refute a fact, he'd switch to saying I "should be against planned parenthood, because they kill more blacks than any hate group", and now we're on to abortion instead of racism. It was insane, but there's a playbook that just infects the mind and trains them to think in this way, and I kind of think it starts with American Christianity and the conscious choice to believe nonsense in the face of facts. There's something to be said here about the value of a singular soundbite/excuse when it comes to cultivating these types of hateful thought patterns. All it needs (in some cases) is to be presented in a relatively entertaining way, or in a manner that seems plausible on its face, and there you go.
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