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Alacron posted:Didn’t Jack Thompson get disbarred for being an enormous pain in the rear end? There’s precedent here. That is a shocking under-exaggeration of reality. quote:In February 2007, The Florida Bar filed disbarment proceedings against Thompson over allegations of professional misconduct. The action was the result of separate grievances filed by people claiming that Thompson made defamatory, false statements and attempted to humiliate, embarrass, harass or intimidate them.[146] According to the complaint, Thompson accused Alberto Cardenas of "distribution of pornography to children", claimed that the Alabama judge presiding over the Devin Moore case "breaks the rules, even the Alabama State Bar Rules, because he thinks that the rules don't apply to him", and sent a letter to Blank Rome's managing partner, saying, "Your law firm has actively and knowingly facilitated by various means the criminal distribution of sexual material to minors." Thompson claims that the complaints violate state religious protections because his advocacy is motivated by his Christian faith.[147]
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TBH I see Ty and Nick really cutting it close to that Jack Thompson line especially since they are in on stirring up Vic supporters to harass people
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SatoshiMiwa posted:TBH I see Ty and Nick really cutting it close to that Jack Thompson line especially since they are in on stirring up Vic supporters to harass people I believe you mean shoot people.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:TBH I see Ty and Nick really cutting it close to that Jack Thompson line especially since they are in on stirring up Vic supporters to harass people We’re one step closer to them claiming anime is revenge for the bombs
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SatoshiMiwa posted:TBH I see Ty and Nick really cutting it close to that Jack Thompson line especially since they are in on stirring up Vic supporters to harass people I took years for Thompson to get to that point iirc so it'd be a while if they were to be disbarred on those grounds.
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Sep 25, 2019 02:28
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Soooooo. I was playing Borderlands 3, and I like the Lorelei character. I looked up the VA, and was surprised to see Jamie Marchi was the VA. Made me smile, because she not only got a VERY satisfying win in court but she ALSO managed to do an extremely good job voicing a fun character.
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Sep 25, 2019 06:24
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Mr. Nice! posted:Bar discipline - yes. Disbarment? I dunno.
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Sep 25, 2019 06:42
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There are like a billion lawyers scummier than Nick and Ty that haven’t been disbarred. If it ever happens it won’t be for a long time.
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Sep 25, 2019 07:35
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khy posted:Soooooo. Isn’t Chris Hardwick in that
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:There are like a billion lawyers scummier than Nick and Ty that haven’t been disbarred. If it ever happens it won’t be for a long time. "Likelihood of being disbarred" seems to be tied at least in part to "how visible a stain you are on the legal profession as a whole" so I'd say Ty's chances are higher than if he'd had this exact same performance in court with literally any other less-public client, tbh
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Sep 25, 2019 10:51
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This guy on Twitter posts ethics complaints and it's been educational. Scream a bunch of stupid nonsense at various people including judicial staff, take 1.5k for doing no work: 18 mo suspension https://twitter.com/associatesmind/status/1123579079989571584?s=20 Insult judge, steal 92k from clients, ignore court order: disbarred https://twitter.com/associatesmind/status/1168878609995567106?s=20 Mr Beard is closer to the former, i think, especially lacking any indication that his previous, non trial work has been this bad. Plus he's been polite while presenting his poor arguments to the court.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:07
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I want Mr Beard to stay around so more chuds can hire him.
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khy posted:Soooooo. It's pretty funny - Marchi has been harassed by chuds before ever since she put anti-GamerGate references in her dub scripts and they badgered Funimation to never hire her and Funimation didn't care and kept on hiring her, and you'd still see today they assume she doesn't get any work. Except she still totally gets work. Unfortunately for her, Jamie's kinda used to people being stupid at her on the internet.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:02
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khy posted:Soooooo. She doesn't voice Lorelei but Ellie and has done since Borderlands 2, she's cool.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:06
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Borderlands in general uses a lot of Okratron talent, it's cool.
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Judge Tesla posted:She doesn't voice Lorelei but Ellie and has done since Borderlands 2, she's cool. Google told me she voices Lorelei. Ellie is cool too, but if Marchi isn't Lorelei then who is lorelei's VA?
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khy posted:Google told me she voices Lorelei. Ellie is cool too, but if Marchi isn't Lorelei then who is lorelei's VA? A search says Ciaran Strange, a trans man. He's also been in the dub for Astra.
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Isn't Marchi the one who also made some weird changes to the Maid Dragon dub, like having the lead go "nah I'm straight" which alters the whole story?
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Marchi wrote a line in that hard confirmed Kobayashi as straight missing the point that Kobayashi's gender is supposed to be ambiguous and then got mad when people criticized her for it. A similar thing happened with the Gamergate line in Prison School where she wrote some Gamgergate joke into a character's dialogue that wasn't funny and dated the dub hard (They even later removed it in the DVD release). She of course got harassed by lovely chuds for the latter, but she makes questionable decisions with some of the calls she makes on her own with the script writing. Ironically she wrote the dub script to Yurikuma Arashi which is super faithful to the original which came out before Maid Dragon did, so idk what happened there. Regardless to some level I'm sure Funimation leads encourage their script writers to punch up a script if need be and while that's fine sometimes, it's really bad in the cases of like the Yume Nikki dub where one of the characters drops a "Who watches the Watchmen?" line of all loving things and there's a million lines of obnoxiously kitschy dialogue sometimes. So idk how much Marchi can be blamed for that, but she doesn't deserve to be harassed and she doesn't deserve this lovely case so I'm glad they got her out of it. Hopefully Rial gets out of this poo poo soon too, because I actually like Monica Rial a lot. Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Captain Baal posted:Marchi wrote a line in that hard confirmed Kobayashi as straight missing the point that Kobayashi's gender is supposed to be ambiguous and then got mad when people criticized her for it. A similar thing happened with the Gamergate line in Prison School where she wrote some Gamgergate joke into a character's dialogue that wasn't funny and dated the dub hard (They even later removed it in the DVD release). She of course got harassed by lovely chuds for the latter, but she makes questionable decisions with some of the calls she makes on her own with the script writing. Ironically she wrote the dub script to Yurikuma Arashi which is super faithful to the original which came out before Maid Dragon did, so idk what happened there. From what I gather Marchi misunderstood the context and didn't like how the original line sounded - because it came off to her that it meant Kobayashi had a problem with lesbians - and over-corrected. Also doing a simuldub script means you have to have the thing finished like yesterday so it doesn't give a lot of research time.
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I mean so was YKA and that's infinitely more abstract than Kobayashi is, but that's neither here nor there. It was a bad call, she made a mistake and you just move on from there unless you're one of the weirdos online who decided to hold a personal grudge with her forever over it.She didn't react the best way, but I think she can hardly be blamed for how any person just trying to do their job and being attacked for it would.
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Captain Baal posted:it's really bad in the cases of like the Yume Nikki dub where one of the characters drops a "Who watches the Watchmen?" line of all loving things What's wrong with that line? Something from the context of the show? Because "who watches the watchmen" is a common translation of a Latin phrase, that gets used a good bit, doesn't seem that bad.
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Sep 25, 2019 20:56
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Did this happen in the 90s? I feel like 90s dubbing was basically improv
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EVGA Longoria posted:What's wrong with that line? Something from the context of the show? Because "who watches the watchmen" is a common translation of a Latin phrase, that gets used a good bit, doesn't seem that bad. The context of the situation is Aru is revealing he has a phone that allows him to witness the diaries of Yuki's that can see the future and how he'll try to change it too. The script writers took it as an opportunity to add some pinache and had Aru in the dub say "My phone is now the one that watches the watchmen" and while yes it is absolutely a valid translation of Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?, the original context does not in any way reference that line and it is 100% the script writers trying to be cute and it took me out of the scene super loving hard. It isn't like the worst rewrite in the world, but a lot of that poo poo happens in the Mirai Nikki dub, sometimes it works a lot of times it feels very out of place. Not that I find Mirai Nikki the most engaging show in the world, but there were several times watching the dub I was confused as to loving why it felt like the dialogue was unnecessarily quirky and it turned out, yep, it was in fact the script writers taking a decent amount of liberties with the material. Also I meant Mirai Nikki and not Yume Nikki like my previous post implied. I get my diary shows mixed up. Alan Smithee posted:Did this happen in the 90s? I feel like 90s dubbing was basically improv It is a dub from 6 years ago. Only two years after this would Funimation dub the Danganronpa anime and do the same loving poo poo they did there only infinitely more insufferable and with some really bad performances. They managed to make Chris Sabat sound like loving poo poo, a thing I thought was undoable considering how well Sabat gels to any role he's put in. Allowing improv from the voice actors can make for better takes than the original Japanese versions on some stuff and show a surprising amount of comedic talent in some VAs but man, a lot of these people are really unfunny sometimes and make the lamest jokes.
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Funimation did similar with Panty and Stocking, the dub of which I refused to watch because they turned a joke about Panty liking sex into "haha Roman Polanski rapes children ad we gave him money". I'm a pretty staunch proponent of being liberal as hell with translations but there's gotta be limits or you're just making an awful thing.
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:Funimation did similar with Panty and Stocking, the dub of which I refused to watch because they turned a joke about Panty liking sex into "haha Roman Polanski rapes children ad we gave him money". I'm a pretty staunch proponent of being liberal as hell with translations but there's gotta be limits or you're just making an awful thing. What
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It was the episode where Panty made a movie that was secretly just porn and the dub said "We spent a lot of money to get Roman Polanski out of the country so he could direct this for us" which was said, you know, right when his extradition stuff was back in the media. It's dated and gross and unnecessary.
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Dawgstar posted:Funny you should ask! Hbomberguy was on LE's show and asked some... related questions, let's say. Maybe enough to keep Eagle's comments from turning into a trash fire.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:14
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3BuDW1qh4
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Sep 25, 2019 22:50
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The Panty and Stocking dub was amazing. Pretty sure Marchi wrote it too.
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:The Panty and Stocking dub was amazing. Pretty sure Marchi wrote it too. I think Marchi and Rial both wrote episodes.
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The PSG dub is a good example of a show that is enhanced by the kind of quirky writing I was talking about. Not every joke is a winner, but it is pretty universally enhanced by the dub writing for taking an already pretty insane show and amping up the raunchiness and stupid poo poo in the dialogue.
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Sep 25, 2019 23:42
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Yeah the panty and stocking dub was amazing, shows where they obviously have fun dubbing it are that much more fun to watch too.
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Sep 26, 2019 00:07
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Captain Baal posted:Fair, but irrelevant Y'all are talking about dubs
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While I don't mind dub talk (since I fear my dumb posts are partly responsible for starting the derail), just to confirm: The next stuff regarding Mignogna is in about 2 weeks, right?
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Sep 26, 2019 00:59
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Unless something comes up, a final decision should be made by the 4th, yes.
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Holy crap the weeks loving flew by.
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Sep 26, 2019 01:07
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That's 1 week from now, well 8 days.
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