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Frond
Mar 12, 2018

mustard_tiger posted:

That's because 50's cars were and still are cool while cars built in the 80s are literally the worst generation of cars, especially malaise era American ones. The Countach and Testerossa might be the only nice cars built in that decade.

I think 50s cars are hideously ugly looking, and are probably terrible to drive. 80s cars are also like, way WAY better than 70s or 60s ones. Especially if we are talking Japanese ones. An ‘83 Celica is leagues better than a ‘72 . Also, they have things like Fuel Injection, brakes that don’t suck rear end (ABS first appeared en masse around that time), and can be daily driven with much less of a headache. This is a personal opinion, but the conservative styling of many 1980s era cars is much nicer to look at as opposed to the 1970s baroque monstrosities and 90s jellybeans.


As an aside, the F40 and 288 GTO are better than the Testarossa, which is also cool.

Frond fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Sep 25, 2019

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove. Assuming your youth wasn't a traumatic horror story, whatever you grew up with is going to have little nuggets of happy memories and most of us are going to be inclined to look on that stuff favorably.

Obviously exotics are in a different category, that's pretty much porn so it makes sense that everyone has a thing for them.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

xzzy posted:

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove.

This is why I lust after Trabants, to relive my sweet childhood memories of 700+ miles trips in the family Trabbi with four other people. :allears:

Content:

TotalLossBrain fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Sep 25, 2019

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
My dad and I were talking about that a few months ago, and I know someone(s) on here were expressing sentiments to the effect of "I've got more respect for a stock as hell 80's poo poo pile than an 80's (insert exotic) because you know the exotic was garaged, and maintained like hell and washed every week. But the poo poo pile was driven every day, probably got its share of dents, and chips and generally nobody gave a gently caress about it, yet it somehow survived".

Also, this show happened a few weeks ago.
Now in its second(?) or third year:

http://oblivioncarshow.ca/

http://oblivioncarshow.ca/2018-show-pics/

Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried
There was discussion similar to this in a local subaru group recently. Concensus was first gen Impreza WRX/Turbo prices are just bottoming out at like 2 or 3 grand for a rough one. Suspect they're gonna be a bit more expensive than that in a few decades.

80s and 90s hot hatches are already bouncing hard as well. It's gonna be cool seeing what makes it to classic status.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


xzzy posted:

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove. Assuming your youth wasn't a traumatic horror story, whatever you grew up with is going to have little nuggets of happy memories and most of us are going to be inclined to look on that stuff favorably.

Obviously exotics are in a different category, that's pretty much porn so it makes sense that everyone has a thing for them.

I have zero nostalgia for 70s Buick Skylarks and Plymouth Furys, Oldsmobile Omegas, or 80s Mazda 626es. Fond memories of what you grew up with might work if you grew up with something worth having fond memories of.
Hell even my grandpa's '67 olds delta 88 sedan with the rocket V8, while kind of cool, was too ridiculous to drive in the late 90s when I inherited it.

(e- sibling corrected. Also I forgot mom always wanted a Camaro so if she'd gotten her way, I might have had cool car nostalgia)

Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Sep 25, 2019

bonelessdongs
Jul 17, 2019

Blacknose posted:

There was discussion similar to this in a local subaru group recently. Concensus was first gen Impreza WRX/Turbo prices are just bottoming out at like 2 or 3 grand for a rough one. Suspect they're gonna be a bit more expensive than that in a few decades.

80s and 90s hot hatches are already bouncing hard as well. It's gonna be cool seeing what makes it to classic status.

There aren't going to be any left in the next few decades
I love early imprezas but holy poo poo do they get eaten by rust

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
NA Miatas just are on the rise. I'd jump on one while you can. They're also a joy to drive which should be all the motivation you need.

Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried

bonelessdongs posted:

There aren't going to be any left in the next few decades
I love early imprezas but holy poo poo do they get eaten by rust

That's true, and if anything it'll drive prices on classics even higher.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

xzzy posted:

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove. Assuming your youth wasn't a traumatic horror story, whatever you grew up with is going to have little nuggets of happy memories and most of us are going to be inclined to look on that stuff favorably.

My mom always drove Cadillacs, because gramps owned a Caddy dealership, and basically forced her to drive one on her dime. I remember her '81 Eldorado leaving us stranded multiple times every year until she got an 86 Deville, which was popping fuses a few months into ownership. Stepdad has always been a truck guy.

I'll take a clean full size RWD GM, an early Accord/Civic/Prelude, or a Datsun pickup over almost anything else, so long as the AC works.

Balliver Shagnasty posted:

Also, GM was throwing 307s in every Cadillac that wasn't a transverse-FWD box back in the 80s. I wasn't lucky enough to get the "VIN 9" high-output 307 in the '88 Brougham I briefly had -- just the lo-po 140 HP version. It had all the performance of a soft fart, even after a tune-up and a rebuilt carb. It was the only car that I couldn't get at least a one-wheel peel out of.

Every Caddy was FWD by the mid 70s? 80s?, except for the Fleetwood and Brougham.

I remember driving a Fleetwood with the LT1 (think it was a 96?) - it moved pretty good for a couch, but traction control wouldn't let you have any fun.

Deteriorata posted:

We seem to be most fascinated by the cars built in the decade before we were born. I don't really know why.

I was born in the 70s, but mostly like 70s and 80s stuff. Datsun, Honda, and mid + full size GMs.

But with a modern drivetrain. LSx swap all the things!

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Sep 26, 2019

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

xzzy posted:

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove. Assuming your youth wasn't a traumatic horror story, whatever you grew up with is going to have little nuggets of happy memories and most of us are going to be inclined to look on that stuff favorably.

Obviously exotics are in a different category, that's pretty much porn so it makes sense that everyone has a thing for them.

You are god drat right. I'm looking for Chevettes.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

Dave Inc. posted:

It's always fun to think of what will be future classics. Some of the cars boomers go crazy for were once just regular rear end family sedans with big motors, the kind of thing nobody gave a single poo poo about when they first came out but remember favorably now.

I can't wait to see people going crazy for mid 90s Accords or something thirty years from now.

Me in 2050: "Holy poo poo a mint condition 1998 Neon R/T! I mean it's no SRT-4 but who can afford one of those anymore?"

Integra Type Rs and 99-2000 Civic Sis are going for 30k now. I think Integra GSRs are going for 15k or 16k, maybe more

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

STR posted:


Every Caddy was FWD by the mid 70s?, except for the Fleetwood and Brougham.


The Eldorado was the only FWD Cadillac until the Seville moved to its platform for 1980.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


xzzy posted:

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove.

Oh God... God no... gently caress naw

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


I think if I were to drunk ebay myself into a money pit nostalgia car, it would be an Isuzu Impulse RS from the early 90s. That was the first car I can say I "noticed" on the road growing up as "looking cool". I grew up in boring Canadian suburbia, what can I say.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



My folks drove a 1990, and later 1988, Ford Crown Victoria. Both in the same silver/grey color. I later drove the '90 as my first car in high school, and I still think they're loving cool, to the extent that I bought an '86 a few years back and dailied it until I had to move.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
The Impulse is cool.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


TotalLossBrain posted:

This is why I lust after Trabants, to relive my sweet childhood memories of 700+ miles trips in the family Trabbi with four other people. :allears:

Content:



Hello sharpness my old friend.

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007

Powershift posted:

Hello sharpness my old friend.

I saw this picture before but I'm just now noticing how many loving Transformer logos there are everywhere.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Just don't try to count the glue on hoodscoops.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I grew up in the 1980s and let me tell you, the 1970s were the most godawful decade for cars ever. I am happy that I rarely ever have to see a Vega, Monza, Pinto, Nova, Mustang II, Granada or Maverick. You may think they're nifty when you see a polished show car with chrome and shiny wheels, but they were loving dogs and ugly and hateful and I'm glad to see them go.

1980s cars largely sucked too but at least the similar aesthetics of the lovely instrument clusters, crack-prone dashes (seriously, what the gently caress were GM buying for plastics then, 2 days of sunlight and cracked like a key lime pie in the fridge) all turned into one big puce-hued background hum. You just kind of accepted that cars sucked, and every now and then the Fiero or Grand National would come along and they just seemed weird and out of place. I mean, it's the decade of the awful box Corvette. It was the decade of the four cylinder Iron Duke Camaro. The Cadillac Cimarron. Car companies were just finally starting to R&D their way out of being neutered by emissions and mileage requirements, but most affordable cars didn't see the rewards for years to come.

Is it any wonder that unattainable poo poo like the Countach and Testarossa took hold in mass media and little boys' dreams? Look what we had to look at on the roads.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

DiggityDoink posted:

I saw this picture before but I'm just now noticing how many loving Transformer logos there are everywhere.

The transformers wanted to be at least a little subtle, they didn’t go around advertising that they were loving transformers, jfc

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
I think the C4 Corvette was a good car. Underrated even. Sure, it had a horrible manual gearbox, terrible electronics, wasn’t assembled properly etc. but it’s performance was pretty great, even now.

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Frond posted:

I think the C4 Corvette was a good car. Underrated even. Sure, it had a horrible manual gearbox, terrible electronics, wasn’t assembled properly etc. but it’s performance was pretty great, even now.

I helped put a procharger on a c4 once. It made 400ish whp. Fun as all loving get out.

All the internet math aside, agreed.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

GD_American posted:


1980s cars largely sucked too but at least the similar aesthetics of the lovely instrument clusters, crack-prone dashes (seriously, what the gently caress were GM buying for plastics then, 2 days of sunlight and cracked like a key lime pie in the fridge) all turned into one big puce-hued background hum. You just kind of accepted that cars sucked, and every now and then the Fiero or Grand National would come along and they just seemed weird and out of place. I mean, it's the decade of the awful box Corvette. It was the decade of the four cylinder Iron Duke Camaro. The Cadillac Cimarron. Car companies were just finally starting to R&D their way out of being neutered by emissions and mileage requirements, but most affordable cars didn't see the rewards for years to come.


Japanese market cars were getting pretty drat good at the time though, my father still speaks fondly of the 1987 Accord Si he had back then (160ps, pop up headlights and deep blue interior)

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

xzzy posted:

I think a major part of car nostalgia comes from what your parents drove. Assuming your youth wasn't a traumatic horror story, whatever you grew up with is going to have little nuggets of happy memories and most of us are going to be inclined to look on that stuff favorably.

Obviously exotics are in a different category, that's pretty much porn so it makes sense that everyone has a thing for them.

No way. Otherwise, I'd be Jonesing for a Volvo 122 4-door or a Datsun 610 Station Wagon :barf:

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

No way. Otherwise, I'd be Jonesing for a Volvo 122 4-door or a Datsun 610 Station Wagon :barf:

My parents had neither of those cars but I'm definitely jonesing for the both of them :fap:

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

Colostomy Bag posted:

For most of us old fucks the 307 will reign supreme as the ultimate disaster. Well behind, the Olds 350 diesel, or the Vega where the intake would fall off, or the V8-6-4, eh nevermind.

Anyone remember the Cadillac 4.1L V8 with TBI? I think in '87 it was 130 HP when the Buick 3.8L V6 was 150 HP.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

DiggityDoink posted:

My parents had neither of those cars but I'm definitely jonesing for the both of them :fap:

That's because you never had to drive them. They were so very bad, and both rusted like they were ice cream on a hot day.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

After my parents got married my dad bought my mom a Fiat X1/9. After that car caught fire or turned into dust or whatever (I need to ask what happened. It's probably a good story because lol Fiat) she drove a 73 Super Beetle which is the first car I ever remember riding in.

She had to get rid of it after getting pregnant with my sister and getting to the point she couldn't fit comfortably behind the wheel anymore is the story I've always heard.

At the same time my pops had a manual diesel Audi 5000. It was blue though, not brown.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Previa_fun posted:

After my parents got married my dad bought my mom a Fiat X1/9. After that car caught fire or turned into dust or whatever (I need to ask what happened. It's probably a good story because lol Fiat) she drove a 73 Super Beetle which is the first car I ever remember riding in.

She had to get rid of it after getting pregnant with my sister and getting to the point she couldn't fit comfortably behind the wheel anymore is the story I've always heard.

At the same time my pops had a manual diesel Audi 5000. It was blue though, not brown.

My mom sold her Z/28 Camaro for a Honda Prelude (silver on red) when she was pregnant with me. My dad sold his Vette (that he sold his E-type for, about which I never tire of ribbing him) for an AMC Eagle (blue/wood grain over blue) which he sold for a 1986 Audi 5000S (grey/grey) turbo. Gas. It was in the shop more than out and he ended up practically giving it away a few years later. Thanks for the memories. :)

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007
My parents had all sorts of cool cars but they were all before I was born.

Mom had a '59 Fury with a push button trans (that my dad's brother blew out while he was drag racing, threw it into reverse instead of second), a 240z, a 260z and a 280z. Dad had a bunch of Camaros, Novas and Darts.

Once I was born, it was nothing but Dodge Caravans, Plymouth Colts and Tauruses.

My dad did have a 9 second Nova but he sold that about a year before I got my license. I at least got to watch him race it.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

DiggityDoink posted:

My parents had all sorts of cool cars but they were all before I was born.

Mom had a '59 Fury with a push button trans (that my dad's brother blew out while he was drag racing, threw it into reverse instead of second), a 240z, a 260z and a 280z. Dad had a bunch of Camaros, Novas and Darts.

Once I was born, it was nothing but Dodge Caravans, Plymouth Colts and Tauruses.

My dad did have a 9 second Nova but he sold that about a year before I got my license. I at least got to watch him race it.

What, it would just try and shift into reverse even at speed? I guess '59 was a long time ago but you'd think they'd have some sort of lockout for that.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Number_6 posted:

Anyone remember the Cadillac 4.1L V8 with TBI? I think in '87 it was 130 HP when the Buick 3.8L V6 was 150 HP.

Yeah, that was another dumpster fire. I like reading the smog laden HP crap numbers compared to what we take for granted now.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Lightbulb Out posted:

80's BMWs are the best ones, sorry.

I agree, because it was possible to order the E31 in 89, allthough it was built in 90 (only review cars and cars for internal staff were built in 89)

Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel

tuo posted:

I agree, because it was possible to order the E31 in 89, allthough it was built in 90 (only review cars and cars for internal staff were built in 89)

Yeah I mean E31s are good but they’re no E30

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

dissss posted:

Japanese market cars were getting pretty drat good at the time though, my father still speaks fondly of the 1987 Accord Si he had back then (160ps, pop up headlights and deep blue interior)

Yeah but we didn't find out until Gran Turismo on PSX :)

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Lightbulb Out posted:

Yeah I mean E31s are good but they’re no E30

they are one E better!

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

Previa_fun posted:

After my parents got married my dad bought my mom a Fiat X1/9. After that car caught fire or turned into dust or whatever (I need to ask what happened. It's probably a good story because lol Fiat) she drove a 73 Super Beetle which is the first car I ever remember riding in.

She had to get rid of it after getting pregnant with my sister and getting to the point she couldn't fit comfortably behind the wheel anymore is the story I've always heard.

At the same time my pops had a manual diesel Audi 5000. It was blue though, not brown.

My mom had an MGB GT until she got pregnant with me. Couldn't fit behind the wheel, so she sold it.

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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

n0tqu1tesane posted:

My mom had an MGB GT until she got pregnant with me. Couldn't fit behind the wheel, so she sold it.

Well, the true story is she used you as part of the wheel.

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