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shas posted:maybe next time the lib dems can get a 10p tax on plastic bags to really make it worthwhile E: 369 facts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWuSPPLtkEQ
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I don't particularly like Phillips but I'm willing to preliminary believe this could have happened in a world where Johnson actively stokes the far right and she pushed back on him today.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:46
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Yes there are a lot of situations where you can 'tactically' shift votes away from the tories, but if you're shifting them to the lib dems, you're just shifting them to a party who are only going to enter a coalition with the tories, so you're effectively voting for the tories. This a million times over. Vote for Labour even if it's a safe/uncontested seat, because it brings their voting numbers down on the Tory/Lib side. A 'I dunno' vote for the LibDems may as well be a vote for the Tories. Tesseraction posted:I don't particularly like Phillips but I'm willing to preliminary believe this could have happened in a world where Johnson actively stokes the far right and she pushed back on him today. Considering the far right is celebrating his rhetoric and vitriol, then yes.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:48
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you will be really happy when your tactical lib dem vote to get an mp in that opposes brexit and migrant internment camps (which incidentally lib dems voted for consistently in coalition) is traded off to get a great political treats in what might sound like new constitutional arrangements which can be overturned with simple majorities, to the benefit of absolutely nobody
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brian posted:no What's the bullshit? We have Boris Johnson in Parliament using extremely inflammatory rhetoric. Then we see an MPs office getting attacked and you're 'oh well we better wait and see here'. If it wasn't Philips then this would be seen as an absolutely damming indictment of how Johnson has conducted himself, but it is Jess Philips so you know, she's probably lying so lets wait and see.
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Aramoro posted:but it is Jess Philips so you know, she's probably lying so lets wait and see. And? Pretty standard process that.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:50
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Glasgow meet up chat, if you're all feeling full wallets post payday, I vote paesano then Shilling Brewing Company
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Is it reasonable to assume that the 10 former tories who voted no today on the conference recess have cut loose entirely? Just thinking in terms of the 10 ex-cons that abstained which could be due to anything, including looking for a path back in & the 3 champions of servility who voted aye.
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I think it's going to take a second MP actually getting killed for anything to happen, and I really worry about the number of good female MPs (and lets face it, the loving cowards are going to target a female MP) that are in the firing line.
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This thread of course famously hates such women as Diane Abbot, Laura Pidcock and Rebecca Long-Bailey.
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shas posted:maybe next time the lib dems can get a 10p tax on plastic bags to really make it worthwhile
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Bobby Deluxe posted:If you vote lib dem they'll let this happen anyway. The 300/299/51 argument only works if you assume that the lib dems will bolster the largest party or work with Labour at all. Unless Swinson and Corbyn suddenly step aside, that's not happening. I feel like we just need to post LIBERALS HATE SOCIALISTS MORE THAN FASCISTS at the top of every page
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Firos posted:This thread of course famously hates such women as Diane Abbot, Laura Pidcock and Rebecca Long-Bailey. I do, actually, because all three have spurned my romantic interests.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:54
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i like cat smith cause she has cat in her name and cats are good
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Tesseraction posted:I do, actually, because all three have spurned my romantic interests. So much for the tolerant left.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:56
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bump_fn posted:i like cat smith cause she has cat in her name and cats are good
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remember, the lib dems with 5 years in government were less influential on government policy than nigel farage with no mps in parliament they operate on a party policy of constant realignment, and any conception that they won't simply muster closer to whatever sits by them ideologically when it means power for them is magical thinking, and the party closest to them is the tories. because they are tories.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:57
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If you vote lib dem all you're doing is feeding into the idea that the lib dems are the alternative to the tories, because they're tories but without the overt brain melting that Johnson is engaging in. You're supporting a realignment to "normal" tories rather than stupid tories. Vote labour, get the labour vote up, show people that labour is where the support should go if you're sick of what the tories do.
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OwlFancier posted:If you vote lib dem all you're doing is feeding into the idea that the lib dems are the alternative to the tories, because they're tories but without the overt brain melting that Johnson is engaging in. You're supporting a realignment to "normal" tories rather than stupid tories. Can we get a fully functioning Labour Party back in Scotland first?
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bump_fn posted:i like cat smith cause she has cat in her name and cats are good Strong showings for up and coming female MP Bloodhound Jones.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:04
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Apropos of nothing saw a three-legged westie this morning and the lil puppo having to have more of a spring in their step and clearly enjoying life gave me energy through the hangover.
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sebzilla posted:I'm busily telling all my weirdo middle class hippy XR-type friends in my constituency of Stroud who might vote for Molly Scott Cato (Green) that they should tactically vote Labour to keep the Tories out. Following the thread logic I should be... encouraging them to follow their hearts, vote Green, split the anti-Tory vote and let David Drew's 600ish majority evaporate? I mean instead of calling it tactical voting you could be telling them about Labour's very good policies to convince them
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Sep 26, 2019 17:05
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Please do not pick yellow tories over blue tories because of the second word in both description. There is no difference here. They will lie and they will enable. They have already said they would.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:06
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This is probably not kind to say but I think Bozo was attracted to that Arcuri woman because she looks alarmingly like him with a better haircut. All of the women he's attracted to look like his mum or sister. Now whether this is standard toff weirdness or him keeping an eye out for Aryan features (or both) I leave as an exercise to the reader.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:09
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Bobby Deluxe posted:If you vote lib dem they'll let this happen anyway. The 300/299/51 argument only works if you assume that the lib dems will bolster the largest party or work with Labour at all. Unless Swinson and Corbyn suddenly step aside, that's not happening. I am fine with sitting for another 5 years with a lame duck minority government that can't do anything as long a the Tories don't get a majority. But the lib dems could literally have supplied the Tories with votes in the current parliament and given them an effective majority this entire time and they haven't. Thinking that they'll suddenly decide to change their tune is really tinfoil hat levels of paranoia.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:09
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The police are confirming it: Man arrested trying to get into Jess Phillips's Birmingham office quote:West Midlands confirmed the arrest in a statement.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:11
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VideoGames posted:Please do not pick yellow tories over blue tories because of the second word in both description. There is no difference here. They will lie and they will enable. They have already said they would. 
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Sep 26, 2019 17:13
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Bobby Deluxe posted:If you vote lib dem they'll let this happen anyway. The 300/299/51 argument only works if you assume that the lib dems will bolster the largest party or work with Labour at all. Unless Swinson and Corbyn suddenly step aside, that's not happening. The current Tory lead on electoral calculus is 14 seats. So might as well Vote Labour as there's not enough swing seats to make tactical voting work. That polling was done 3 weeks ago mind so is worthless now given what's happened.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:All of the women he's attracted to look like his mum or sister. 
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Guavanaut posted:Go on... Sigmund Frood: "Dahs moos eyn trowm zine?"
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With all the whistleblower stuff in the US and impeachment alongside the complete turbo loving of the tories and state of Johnson right now I am loving this week quite a lot. e: I'm also moving back to the UK next week and it's providing a fantastic distraction from the absolute pants making GBS threads terror I'm feeling in my gut of taking my Type 1 diabetic wife to a potential no deal brexit Britain.
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Natural 20 posted:But the lib dems could literally have supplied the Tories with votes in the current parliament and given them an effective majority this entire time and they haven't. Thinking that they'll suddenly decide to change their tune is really tinfoil hat levels of paranoia. They now have a leader who was part of the coalition front bench, refuses to rule out a coalition, has been very vocal about refusing to work with Corbyn's labour and has consistently voted to the right of Boris loving Johnson. As rarity said, liberals hate socialists more than they hate fascists. They are absolutely going to prop up the tories if it's an option at all.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:23
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Bobby Deluxe posted:They had a different leader, notably a leader who understood that a coalition would be political suicide and got steamrolled trying to play his options. Also, cars. Ministerial cars, getting to call themselves ministers, doing ministery things, feeling important. All more tempting things to a Lib Dem MP than not supporting Tories.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:25
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Also like what, a third, half, of the parliamentary liberal democrat party is literally made of tories at this point. Because they're tories.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:25
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Bobstar posted:Also, cars. Ministerial cars, getting to call themselves ministers, doing ministery things, feeling important. All more tempting things to a Lib Dem MP than not supporting Tories.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:27
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The man who refuses to comment on how many kids he has has an inappropriate relationship with a far younger woman who looks like him and keeps using positions of power to funnel money to her you say? Can't say I see anything that requires further investigation with that.
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https://twitter.com/trueclausefour/status/1177204409266294792?s=20
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Bobby Deluxe posted:They had a different leader, notably a leader who understood that a coalition would be political suicide and got steamrolled trying to play his options. If your whole thing is about being a grown up politician that makes the tough decisions, then the tougher the decision the better you are. Bad decisions are the toughest, so making them should be your priority.
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Sep 26, 2019 17:31
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As opposed to Kuenssberg, who orders her underlings to write a 'neutral' piece that cites her (biased) twitter feed as the only source saying how clever boris is.
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