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Working sucks and all humans should strive to do as little as possible. E: lmao of course this is the page topper. buddhist nudist fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Xombie posted:Why do people keep acting like Hunter Biden, Yale Law graduate, would not have gotten a job as a fry chef if not for his dad becoming Vice President in 2008. At that point he had already been a lobbyist, board member of AMTRAK, and generally Rich Dude. Hunter, would you like to make an official comment on the July 25th Ukraine phone call? I know Something Awful isn't your typical breaking news format but your dad is really getting put through the wringer right now.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I still think pointing out examples or nepotism and corruption could be a winning attack on Biden. I also never said it would be a way to gain support, just that it would hurt biden. There are absolutely legit ways and reasons to go after Biden in a primary, and candidates have and should. This is not one of them and would almost assuredly backfire, given context of... well everything. If you need evidence, ask Castro how his campaign is doing. Edit and I’m done since this is bordering primary chat.
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ManBoyChef posted:this country has failed us The country can't fail those it was never meant to serve. Gibbering idiot president aside, it's working precisely as designed.
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An important tweet that reminds us to not miss the forest through the trees: https://twitter.com/Trillburne/status/1177658951506243584
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I still think pointing out examples or nepotism and corruption could be a winning attack on Biden. I also never said it would be a way to gain support, just that it would hurt biden. This is very short-sighted, because all people running for president are rich, which all of their children benefit from to an unfair degree compared to everyone else. quote:This is a possibility, but there should be some acknowledgement by Hunter that he willingly took a bribe for what should have been an obvious reason at the time. Hunter Biden isn't a public official. quote:I haven't used a single talking point the GOP is using. I am however pointing out an obvious example of allowed corruption only to be told that it is not actually corruption, or that it's okay because it's just normal corruption. Being from a rich and powerful family and subsequently becoming rich and powerful yourself isn't corruption, it's just normal lovely capitalism. "Your children are too successful" is not a winning issue against candidates for political office.
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Majorian posted:This simply isn't true. mcmagic posted:She's completely bungling the political strategy as usual. Instead of hearings and new dirt on Trump dominating the news for the next year she wants to get it over quickly.... For what? To pass more bills Mitch McConnell will shred? Trump should be taking a beating like he is this week for the next year and she doesn't seem to want that. mcmagic posted:She's only crooked as in typical Washington crooked. The main issue is that she's from a different political era which makes her incompetent politically and completely unsuited to the historical moment. She has no idea what she's up against and literally no strategy to win other than short term holds. If democrats don't act immediately on what's available right now, it ends up being a failure for them. The impression would be that Trump's behavior is somehow acceptable or democrats are failing to fulfill their constitutional obligations as representatives and Trump is "winning".
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Whats the deal with the joker movie stuff?
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Trabisnikof posted:Do you think Hunter Biden would have been a lobbyist and a board member of AMTRAK if his daddy wasn't United States Senator "AMTRAK Joe" Biden? Congrats, you’ve discovered that rich well connected people get tons of special treatment. Has fuckall to do with Trump committing crimes.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/JamesPindell/status/1177654999691735041?s=20 Wow, that's actually quite the statement from McConnell, the guy who offhandedly admitted he has a double-standard for supreme court justice procedures. I know Lindsey Graham has been sea lioning for Trump, but McConnell has been unusually quiet.
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ryde posted:Whats the deal with the joker movie stuff? Incels have adopted Joker as their hero (he's the 'anti-chad' that fights the 'chad' Batman/Bruce Wayne). The Army sent out a memo to all its staff that they fear an incel attack is coming with the release of the Joker movie. edit: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/joker-criticism-fallout-891081/
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Crackbone posted:Congrats, youve discovered that rich well connected people get tons of special treatment. Sure, but some people think its bad when rich people abuse their power to enrich themselves even when the person isn't Trump. "Trump committing crimes" isn't the only loving problem with this country right now. Hell, it isn't even the biggest problem.
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trump being blissfully unaware of the poo poo he's in reminds me of another great roth piece:quote:It can be difficult to remember given that he routinely appears on television with toilet paper on the soles of both his shoes and at least one of his hands stuck in a big jug of peanut butter, but Donald Trump’s opening position in all things is that he has never been wrong. He has been wronged, and is in fact wronged constantly—by terrible nasty TV actresses and fake cable news anchors and the other antagonists he’s collected over a lifetime of nonstop blowsy public feuding. But that is just the price he pays for always being right and never being afraid to speak out on whatever he has just seen on television. He carries that weight lightly, give or take the fact that he whines about it constantly. There is an entire cable television network devoted to telling this story over and over again, and every day Trump parks his rear end in front of it and watches embalmed-looking septuagenarian newsreader types talk about how correct he is and heatedly demand apologies on his behalf, for hours on end. It’s the treatment that he has always believed he deserves. https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-is-not-going-to-let-this-hurricane-thing-g-1837889913
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Crackbone posted:Congrats, you’ve discovered that rich well connected people get tons of special treatment. Yup, the willingness to entertain the obvious whataboutism in any capacity is a mistake
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Berke Negri posted:ah those nostalgic hellworld 1.0 greatest hits I forgot that Trump pardoned Scooter Libby.
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ryde posted:Whats the deal with the joker movie stuff? Solipsistic white man becomes an insane mass murderer because society "failed" him by not providing him undeserved praise and validation.
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ryde posted:I absolutely believe Burisma intended to curry favor with the VP. I don't see evidence that they actually did. hahaha ok just taking money from people intending to bribe me, nothing to see here
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ewiley posted:Wow, that's actually quite the statement from McConnell, the guy who offhandedly admitted he has a double-standard for supreme court justice procedures. I know Lindsey Graham has been sea lioning for Trump, but McConnell has been unusually quiet. My guess is McConnell has a lot of shady dealings both by himself and via his wife being Transportation Secretary, and he doesn't want the investigations turning in his direction. Or, he's confident not enough Republicans will flip to vote for removal.
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure, but some people think its bad when rich people abuse their power to enrich themselves even when the person isn't Trump. Hi, pest control? Got a bad infestation of Whatabouts here.
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Ham posted:If democrats don't act immediately on what's available right now, it ends up being a failure for them. The impression would be that Trump's behavior is somehow acceptable or democrats are failing to fulfill their constitutional obligations as representatives and Trump is "winning". I mean, first of all, what you quoted from mcmagic shows that he does want a vote, so your claim that he doesn't was unfounded. Secondly, why would it be a failure for them if they don't act on what's available right now? Why not expand the scope, with more investigations directly and explicitly linked to impeachment? That would strengthen the House committees' investigative hands, and has a very good chance of dredging up even worse dirt on Trump. Dirt that could drag down other high-level Republicans. The only reason I can think of for keeping a super-narrow scope for impeachment and then rushing it in before the end of the year, is if you think there isn't going to be any more interesting dirt on Trump that won't capture the public's attention. I don't think that will be the case, though.
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ewiley posted:Wow, that's actually quite the statement from McConnell, the guy who offhandedly admitted he has a double-standard for supreme court justice procedures. I know Lindsey Graham has been sea lioning for Trump, but McConnell has been unusually quiet. It's as if he has recently been disarmed.
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Crackbone posted:Congrats, you’ve discovered that rich well connected people get tons of special treatment. While it's extremely important to get Trump out, it's also extremely important to remember that he's a symptom, not a cause. Attacking the cause means some of your, ahem, "faves" are gonna be implicated.
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure, but some people think its bad when rich people abuse their power to enrich themselves even when the person isn't Trump. It is fine to think it sucks. Focusing on it while Trump is commiting For Real Crimes doesn't make sense. Hoping other Democrats will repeat Republican talking points as if any of them didn't benefit from nepotism is staggering ignorant.
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Bugsy posted:https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1177603882169569280 USPOL: Just another day in fucknutsville
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Google Butt posted:Yup, the willingness to entertain the obvious whataboutism in any capacity is a mistake The willingness to ignore when "our side" does bad things just because the other side is worse is a mistake.
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I haven't seen this posted so apologies if this is a repeat. But holy poo poo, Rudy has lost his goddamn mind. Like, even moreo. https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1177412407259516936?s=20
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I haven't seen this posted so apologies if this is a repeat. But holy poo poo, Rudy has lost his goddamn mind. Like, even moreo. Well we should investigate Biden taking out a contract on Rudy Guliani immediately
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you guys know crying about whataboutism is silly especially when the person isn't trying to excuse trump's criminality or corruption when bringing up someone else's.
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ewiley posted:Wow, that's actually quite the statement from McConnell, the guy who offhandedly admitted he has a double-standard for supreme court justice procedures. I know Lindsey Graham has been sea lioning for Trump, but McConnell has been unusually quiet. I can't tell whether he thinks he can get a quick acquittal that he can spin as "exoneration", or if he just sees the writing on the wall. It's pretty hard to spin the president volunteering information about his crimes and Rudy adding additional detail as a "nothingburger", but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't try.
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Angry_Ed posted:My guess is McConnell has a lot of shady dealings both by himself and via his wife being Transportation Secretary, and he doesn't want the investigations turning in his direction. I think he’s more confident he can turn it into a mockery once he gets his hands on it.
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ewiley posted:Wow, that's actually quite the statement from McConnell, the guy who offhandedly admitted he has a double-standard for supreme court justice procedures. I know Lindsey Graham has been sea lioning for Trump, but McConnell has been unusually quiet. exactly. i think we will probably have a scenerio 4 still but a 2 would be nice. BigBallChunkyTime posted:I haven't seen this posted so apologies if this is a repeat. But holy poo poo, Rudy has lost his goddamn mind. Like, even moreo. lol. ok now this is getting good.
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Trabisnikof posted:The willingness to ignore when "our side" does bad things just because the other side is worse is a mistake. That is fine. Why focus on a debunked Republican talking point about Joe Biden in particular? There are no shortage of things.
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ImpAtom posted:It is fine to think it sucks. Focusing on it while Trump is commiting For Real Crimes doesn't make sense. Hoping other Democrats will repeat Republican talking points as if any of them didn't benefit from nepotism is staggering ignorant. Trump has been committing real crimes since 2016, we have to be able to focus on things other than Trump and his crimes if we're going to be able to focus on anything other than him. And he's not the real problem and never has been. ImpAtom posted:That is fine. Why focus on a debunked Republican talking point about Joe Biden in particular? There are no shortage of things. People have been raising legitimate concerns about the Hunter Biden/Ukraine dealings since 2014 at least. Why do we have to pretend that it isn't shady just because Republicans are using it to attack Joe Biden?
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I can't tell whether he thinks he can get a quick acquittal that he can spin as "exoneration", or if he just sees the writing on the wall. It's pretty hard to spin the president volunteering information about his crimes and Rudy adding additional detail as a "nothingburger", but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't try. Until the base fractures trump is still de facto leader of the party. Mitch is going to try to hatchet job the procedure once he gets it in the senate. No way he throws trump under the bus until his majority is legit in danger.
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VitalSigns posted:hahaha ok Hunter took the money, not Joe.
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Xombie posted:Being from a rich and powerful family and subsequently becoming rich and powerful yourself isn't corruption, it's just normal lovely capitalism. There are a ton of rich failsons in America, what made the VP's kid so special Xombie posted:"Your children are too successful" is not a winning issue against candidates for political office. Being a corrupt criminal has never taken down any candidate that I can think of
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Trabisnikof posted:Trump has been committing real crimes since 2016, we have to be able to focus on things other than Trump and his crimes if we're going to be able to focus on anything other than him. And he's not the real problem and never has been. Cool. So why is it important to focus on Joe Biden right now? What about Joe Biden demands everything be dropped and Trump's deflection talking point be treated like anything but that?
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ewiley posted:Wow, that's actually quite the statement from McConnell, the guy who offhandedly admitted he has a double-standard for supreme court justice procedures. I know Lindsey Graham has been sea lioning for Trump, but McConnell has been unusually quiet. Could be McConnell is getting a grasp of the issue. The House voting to impeach is one thing. Admittedly a BIG thing. But the actual hearing/trial in the Senate would be absurdly bad for the GOP when you think of the witness list they would call to testify in arguably the most watch Senate session ever.
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ryde posted:Hunter took the money, not Joe. no no no see my immediate family was taking the bribes, that has nothing to do with me
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Trabisnikof posted:The willingness to ignore when "our side" does bad things just because the other side is worse is a mistake. Saying "all lives matter" when someone talks about black lives mattering is not a sign someone is being a caring person. The guy vomiting up "dems bad too" during the initial days of the impeachment of trump are not a guy that is actually really suddenly interested in joe biden's sons moral conduct.
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