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Who cares? It's not like they're breaking into your house to yell at you about it. It's pretty easy to ignore someone being a turd online, and you definitely just broadened it way beyond that too.
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these fourteen year olds on tumblr are worthy of my ire for being overly excited about the realization that they can just read a character as gay
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Sep 28, 2019 21:33
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:Who cares? It's not like they're breaking into your house to yell at you about it. It's pretty easy to ignore someone being a turd online, and you definitely just broadened it way beyond that too. I'm happy to drop it now. It was included as part of why I wouldn't think a writer saying a particular character they wrote isn't gay, though, and I do have my reasons for caring.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:33
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AngryRobotsInc posted:Granted, I'm also annoyed with a certain subset of fandom being "ALL THE CHARACTERS ARE GAY AND/OR TRANS. ALL OF THEM!" so there's that too. Same here, only swap out gay/trans with dead the whole time/it was all a dream actually because someone got hit with a baseball and in their head people and tomatoes are about as durable as each other. Endorph posted:these fourteen year olds on tumblr are worthy of my ire for being overly excited about the realization that they can just read a character as gay God I miss tumblr. There were so many shitposts and I was a master at Mr. Magooing my way through all the drama and never catching it because without a homepage everyone looks at I have no idea what's happening.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:38
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AngryRobotsInc posted:I mean a particular head canon type, though. The sort that is very loud about "This sweet little cinnamon bun is gay, and if you think otherwise you're HOMOPHOBIC" type about their head canons. What does the 2nd part of that statement even have to do with what you said before? That part isn't even a head canon.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:Even with it being false, if it was true, depending on how it's said, I also wouldn't see "I didn't write that character as being gay" as being not progressive, when it's a series with representation elsewhere. I'm all for death of the author and all, but also wouldn't see a problem with them outright saying they didn't intend for one particular character to be gay. * like three
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I'm not sure that's quite how things work
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Elephant Parade posted:I mean, it's hard for the characters to be anything other than gay when there are no* men in the setting
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obviously they can also be bi, ace, or just eternally unable to find romance, but it should be obvious why the fandom leans toward f/f pairings, and in turn the popularity of f/f pairings means that the characters themselves are seen as being gayEndorph posted:I kind of dislike this read. Men obviously exist in touhou, you see them in background shots and there's occasional incidental male characters. It's just that they aren't really important to the stories being told. That's much more interesting than them just not existing or w/e. one is 'the setting is filled with powerful and important women' the other is 'women have all the power because men don't exist.'
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I get where angryrobot is coming from, theres definitely subcommunities who go at peoples throats for not having the right head canon and posture it as being woke or whatever. Idc if someone is just goofing around about asserting it though. But it's weird when people dont have the self awareness to realize their fan theories arent universally accepted.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:49
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On the flip side people who need to go "actually that's not canon" all the time also suck
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If you mean the crazy obsessed Supernatural fans, just say that you meant the crazy obsessed Supernatural fans.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I get where angryrobot is coming from, theres definitely subcommunities who go at peoples throats for not having the right head canon and posture it as being woke or whatever. Idc if someone is just goofing around about asserting it though. But it's weird when people dont have the self awareness to realize their fan theories arent universally accepted. That's definitely not his intent given the bit about cinnamon rolls so maybe we should save the convo you're aiming at for another time.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:51
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Oh idk then, that's the vibe I got. Didnt seem worth jumping down his throat over.
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Sep 28, 2019 21:55
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what's the best atelier on pc if I'm only gonna play one... I'm really enjoying grandia 2 again with this mod.. I didn't realize the game added new conversations at every individual inn after every major plot event.
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GulagDolls posted:what's the best atelier on pc if I'm only gonna play one... Wait for the pc port of ayesha.
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Anyway obvs i dont agree with actively going after people for disagreing but at the same time this stuff can be really important to people. And obviously people do go after people just for disagreeing but the far more common interaction is my experience is someone drawing characters being gay or trans or whatever and then someone getting in their face about it not being canon.
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Endorph posted:Anyway obvs i dont agree with actively going after people for disagreing but at the same time this stuff can be really important to people. And obviously people do go after people just for disagreeing but the far more common interaction is my experience is someone drawing characters being gay or trans or whatever and then someone getting in their face about it not being canon. Seems really down to what kind of communities you're exposed to. I agree that your example is way more common though.
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GulagDolls posted:what's the best atelier on pc if I'm only gonna play one... while there are plenty of good ones Escha & Logy, which is coming in a few months, is generally the one I hear most often as both a starting point and a suggestion for "if you must play one...". while waiting on that maybe try Rorona at your own pace, with no expectation that you'll get great endings on your first playthrough.
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Sep 28, 2019 22:05
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In summary, it's generally bad to millitantly force your viewpoint on other people.
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Ryza is on the last week of October
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thank u all melfice's laughing is my favorite idle action of all time
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Sep 28, 2019 22:07
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Yeah but Samus is still trans tho
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RareAcumen posted:Yeah but Samus is still trans tho i dont like this one because the sparkpoint is some random metroid guy making a lovely joke and samus is a character who is almost completely divorced from her gender in a way that is kind of interesting (except in the bad game) neither of which make this angle very interesting or engaging to me, imo.
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Sep 28, 2019 22:17
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I like the one where Samus acts like a bird cuz she lived with birds
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Sep 28, 2019 22:19
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i like the samus in the early metroid 4komas where she just routinely lives as a morph ball because round
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Sep 28, 2019 22:33
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Mercedes von Martritz from the video game Fire Emblem Three Houses for the Nintendo Switch entertainment system is trans.
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Merilan posted:i like the samus in the early metroid 4komas where she just routinely lives as a morph ball because round those gag mangas are funnier than any 90s video game gag manga has a right to be tbh
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The Colonel posted:those gag mangas are funnier than any 90s video game gag manga has a right to be tbh yeah i loved them quite a lot
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Junpei Hyde posted:Mercedes von Martritz from the video game Fire Emblem Three Houses for the Nintendo Switch entertainment system is trans. hell yeah
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Endorph posted:i dont like this one because the sparkpoint is some random metroid guy making a lovely joke and samus is a character who is almost completely divorced from her gender in a way that is kind of interesting (except in the bad game) neither of which make this angle very interesting or engaging to me, imo. There's something kinda ehhhhhh about people always singling out the character who conforms to gender roles the least for trans readings. Like I get that it often comes from trans perspectives instead of a malicious place, but there's a pattern here. Junpei Hyde posted:Mercedes von Martritz from the video game Fire Emblem Three Houses for the Nintendo Switch entertainment system is trans. See this is strong. mycot fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Sep 29, 2019 |
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Sep 29, 2019 00:55
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Nevermind.
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the best atelier game on pc is waiting for one of them to drop in a steam sale to $20. it never happens so i never get one
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Ive not played DQ9 or 10, but thanks DQ11 for fixing the abominably stupid fundamental design decisions of DQ8's skill system. Youre still not how Id make a skill system but now its just an issue of taste
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From what I remember on the PS2, it didn't tell you how many skill points were needed to attain the next skill, and you had no way to respec. Also instead of a grid or whatever every character just had five linear trees. It was extremely easy to sink points into a bad option and then you're never getting those skill points back. Also Angelo had bad skill growth.
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Yeah 8 didn’t tell you what skills you where getting and there wasn’t any cross tree synergy so if you picked one that sucked or you didn’t like then you just wasted those points
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1) You dont know how many points you need to get to the next thing 2) You dont know what the next thing even is youre progressing to 3) Weapon trees have no synergy when not using that weapon 4) Skills you get arent equivalent across trees and some trees are just flat better than others with no indication 5) You get enough points for around 1.5 skill trees out of like 4 or 5 6) You cant respec Its disproportionately beneficial if you do it right, punishes dabbling severely, doesnt bother to make things equivalent especially regarding weapon selection, and allows no respeccing. It basically exists to either make you feel crummy or read a strategy guide.
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Sakurazuka posted:The beach music was also peak Sakuraba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63hwKhUE6YY
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Endorph posted:all of the touhous are gay and/or trans. Except the creepy moon jerks who married each others sons. And okay reading that maybe they are gay but really loving weird and closeted about it. The moon jerks are the worst. Edit: Clarifying this doesn't really come up in Touhou, but they're mythological figures who did that in their story. A Sometimes Food fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Sep 29, 2019 |
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