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Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

thatfatkid posted:

somehow i dont think a middle aged mum knows about /pol/ memes

JBP posted:

She's stood in a canned photo op and was feeling around to hold the kids hand, but ended up looking odd. There's no further "reason" required for this awkward photo.

Pre sure it's this. Like, absolutely not saying it's not a thing (well, that they didn't try to make it a thing), but as lovely and awful as Morrison and (I assume) his wife are, I really think this is just an awkward timing caught on camera, rather than her deciding to take the opportunity with the mixed race royal family to broadcast their white supremacy agenda. And yeah, I get the whole "they hide in plain sight and use that absurdity as a cover", but equally, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
i thought that was the international code symbol for mass chicken murder?????

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
New Hope in China do over a billion birds a year now. I think there's a single South Korean plant that can do like 90,000,000 birds a year on its own too. Pretty impressive supply chain.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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JBP posted:

I'm worried about you all

The internet has rotted their brains

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Hollandia posted:

In this instance, JBP is right.

if these are the straws people are grasping at then wow

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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NPR Journalizard posted:

There are a couple of options to explain the picture then.

1) She is a robot impersonating the wife of the prime minister, because what human holds a child's wrist like that.

2) She is flashing a white supremacist sign.

3) She is flashing the sign that says "If you notice this I get to punch you" which hasn't been used outside of primary school ever.

Unless you have a better reason?

Idiot.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


JBP posted:

Are you posters for real that she's intentionally giving the low down white power ok lol

I think it was accidental on her part, but the funny part is that the Liberal Party subsequently took the photo down.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Senor Tron posted:

I think it was accidental on her part, but the funny part is that the Liberal Party subsequently took the photo down.

It's this

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Thing is poo poo like that sounds insane until suddenly it's 2019 and it isn't.

People were saying similar things about that WH aide who was doing it for the cameras during the Mueller clown show, and fairly, others were calling them crazy paranoids. Then she did it again, really obviously and with no other plausible explanation. And then the WH started making really obvious 1488 references and putting kids in cages.

I think in this case it's probably a strange coincidence, but also this is the hellworld timeline where poo poo has thoroughly gone off the rails, and you shouldn't discount anything, particularly not with the Morrisons cosying up to the Trump's.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

don't sign your posts

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
also jesus christ guys that is definitely just an awkward posing of a hand from notably real people who are very representative of Australians

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts
the only thing that could come of this is that a semi-prominent figure from the left will retweet it and the right wing media will have a field day that the greens are calling the pm's wife a white supremacist

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
The difference between the American ones and this is when the Americans did it they were either 1. People impersonating trump who does it or 2. Actual white supremacist meme lords so it’s believable.

With Morrison and his wife - look I believe Morrison is a racist (I don’t know his wife but I’m assuming yes too) but much more in the vein of “except for the hard working ones!” Kinda guy. Like I don’t think he actually believes in a eugenics style white power / ethnostate thing. Think about the immigration stuff- they let asians in- the Chinese who have money and don’t cause trouble or get uppity!

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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Don Dongington posted:

Thing is poo poo like that sounds insane until suddenly it's 2019 and it isn't.

People were saying similar things about that WH aide who was doing it for the cameras during the Mueller clown show, and fairly, others were calling them crazy paranoids. Then she did it again, really obviously and with no other plausible explanation. And then the WH started making really obvious 1488 references and putting kids in cages.

I think in this case it's probably a strange coincidence, but also this is the hellworld timeline where poo poo has thoroughly gone off the rails, and you shouldn't discount anything, particularly not with the Morrisons cosying up to the Trump's.

You’re stupider than a box of hammers

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
hammers seem pretty stupid until everything's a nail

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



I mean, if you let white supremacists dictate the terms of what an already existing hand gesture means then you're giving them a lot of power. If they started saying 'the signal of white power is to scratch your nose' and you accept it as true and try to look out for it, then literally everyone is signalling a call for white power multiple times a day, and even in their sleep. The kind of white supremacist who would use that signal is already pretty open about their political beliefs anyway.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
The wife of the guy who keeps (99% poc) asylum seekers in cages until their teeth rot accidentally did a white power symbol

if you say so

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
So we're agreed then - the wife of the white supremacist prime minister probably didn't drop a popular white supremacist signal that nobody has used frequently in its original context since the 1980s on purpose.

Glad we cleared that up!

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Don Dongington posted:

nobody has used frequently in its original context since the 1980s

lmao

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


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I personally do nazi the connection

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

the theory here is that the 51 year old wife of the prime minister of Australia is online enough to know the meme status of the "ok" symbol on the alt-right

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
It's gonna be great when Dutton's shock troopers start rounding up the socialists and half of you answer the door, hand on hip saying "um, I think you'll find he's a neoliberal technocrat, so you're doing this all wrong".

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Don Dongington posted:

It's gonna be great when Dutton's shock troopers start rounding up the socialists and half of you answer the door, hand on hip saying "um, I think you'll find he's a neoliberal technocrat, so you're doing this all wrong".

lol

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


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Lotta laughs going around today, glad to see we’re all having a good time

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
I don't think it's a stretch to think that the wife of a Prime Minister might have at least a passing knowledge of a sign used by a relatively prominent political movement.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Frankly, it's nice to be out of the top 3 most embarassing countries in the world for a brief moment.

Also Richmond smashed it.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

TheMostFrench posted:

I mean, if you let white supremacists dictate the terms of what an already existing hand gesture means then you're giving them a lot of power. If they started saying 'the signal of white power is to scratch your nose' and you accept it as true and try to look out for it, then literally everyone is signalling a call for white power multiple times a day, and even in their sleep. The kind of white supremacist who would use that signal is already pretty open about their political beliefs anyway.

Dire Lemming
Jan 19, 2016
If you don't coddle Nazis flat Earthers then you're literally as bad as them.

TheMostFrench posted:

I mean, if you let white supremacists dictate the terms of what an already existing hand gesture means then you're giving them a lot of power. If they started saying 'the signal of white power is to scratch your nose' and you accept it as true and try to look out for it, then literally everyone is signalling a call for white power multiple times a day, and even in their sleep. The kind of white supremacist who would use that signal is already pretty open about their political beliefs anyway.

Now tell us what you think of the swastika. Also your example is bad, scratching your nose is an action with a purpose hence why people do it in their sleep. I'm sceptical that the gesture was intentional here but the "we must not surrender the ok symbol to white supremacists" argument and its derivations are always bad. Your need to use the ok symbol is far outweighed by the need of the victims of white supremacy to recognise and call it out. White supremacists chose it specifically because people like you would defend it and them by extension. The innocuousness is the entire point.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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bowmore posted:

The wife of the guy who keeps (99% poc) asylum seekers in cages until their teeth rot accidentally did a white power symbol

if you say so

loving dumbarse.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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BBJoey posted:

the theory here is that the 51 year old wife of the prime minister of Australia is online enough to know the meme status of the "ok" symbol on the alt-right

There’s no point in engaging with this level of cloistered stupidity on a rational level.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Dire Lemming posted:

Now tell us what you think of the swastika. Also your example is bad, scratching your nose is an action with a purpose hence why people do it in their sleep. I'm sceptical that the gesture was intentional here but the "we must not surrender the ok symbol to white supremacists" argument and its derivations are always bad. Your need to use the ok symbol is far outweighed by the need of the victims of white supremacy to recognise and call it out. White supremacists chose it specifically because people like you would defend it and them by extension. The innocuousness is the entire point.

Yeah it's the classic "I'M NOT RACIST YOU'RE RACIST" defence. Keep it even slightly deniable or deflectable and you can be as out and proud as you drat well wish.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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norp posted:

I don't think it's a stretch to think that the wife of a Prime Minister might have at least a passing knowledge of a sign used by a relatively prominent political movement.

This absolute tool thinks of himself as an informed citizen.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


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Amethyst posted:

There’s no point in engaging with this level of cloistered stupidity on a rational level.

but enough about australian politics lets talk about symbolism in white supremacist movements for a sec

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:

norp posted:

I don't think it's a stretch to think that the wife of a Prime Minister might have at least a passing knowledge of a sign used by a relatively prominent political movement.

There's a whole lot of people out there who only need to hear doing a thing 'triggers the left' to start doing it as often as they can. Nazi catchphrases are only conventional enough to be used daily in the opinion pieces of the country's most popular newspapers

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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Dire Lemming posted:

Now tell us what you think of the swastika. Also your example is bad, scratching your nose is an action with a purpose hence why people do it in their sleep. I'm sceptical that the gesture was intentional here but the "we must not surrender the ok symbol to white supremacists" argument and its derivations are always bad. Your need to use the ok symbol is far outweighed by the need of the victims of white supremacy to recognise and call it out. White supremacists chose it specifically because people like you would defend it and them by extension. The innocuousness is the entire point.

The swastika wasn’t a dumb internet prank you television head

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
just a big hearty all inclusive all encompassing belly lol that really makes you feel good and makes everyone want to join in, laughing and laughing and laughing if you think anything you do is objectively rational, or that the tenant of rationality in fact is anything more than a convenient heuristic to describe a person that is acting in a way you cannot understand or comprehend and ultimately a shortcoming in your own perceptiveness. Also we all laugh so much we die.

Dire Lemming
Jan 19, 2016
If you don't coddle Nazis flat Earthers then you're literally as bad as them.

Amethyst posted:

The swastika wasn’t a dumb internet prank you television head

Congratulations, you have correctly identified a difference between the swastika and the ok symbol. Next try to identify a difference that is meaningful to the conversation like say how they are not both existing symbols that have had their meanings changed by how they are used and the people who use them.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Dire Lemming posted:

Congratulations, you have correctly identified a difference between the swastika and the ok symbol. Next try to identify a difference that is meaningful to the conversation like say how they are not both existing symbols that have had their meanings changed by how they are used and the people who use them.

look i'm really sorry to have to put cold water on your furious masturbatory fantasy, but it's really unlikely that ScoMo's wife is a cryptofascist

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Recoome posted:

look i'm really sorry to have to put cold water on your furious masturbatory fantasy, but it's really unlikely that ScoMo's wife is a cryptofascist

she's probably just a fascist

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Dire Lemming
Jan 19, 2016
If you don't coddle Nazis flat Earthers then you're literally as bad as them.

Recoome posted:

look i'm really sorry to have to put cold water on your furious masturbatory fantasy, but it's really unlikely that ScoMo's wife is a cryptofascist

Dire Lemming posted:

I'm sceptical that the gesture was intentional here

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