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half cocaine posted:The uninhabitable earth. Cheers! I was reading about an Australian guy who built an off the grid house but has now decided the world is done in the next 5 and has gone to live in a Hobbit-hole somewhere. Decided it was time to make myself real miserable e: catte 
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Bobbie Thompson joined in 2001. Conveniently the same year Robert Thompson got out of jail. Coincidence?
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Tarnop posted:Cheers! You should follow Canadian forums poster Rime.
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OwlFancier posted:They haven't starved it of funding, they've used it for its inherent purpose, which is to prop up the government. Yeah, something used to prop up the state is better than something used to prop up commercial interests, which is what would replace it. And state-owned public broadcasting is an inherently left-wing conceit, the clue is that the Tories are trying to destroy it (and they absolutely have starved it of funding). If you don’t like the NHS as a metaphor, how about social housing? Under a Labour government, many council houses could be built to great benefit of the populace. However, under a Tory government, they could reinstate right-to-buy and thereby create many new homeowners who are more likely to become Tories, which is bad for society. It would be great if we found some way around this, but even if we can’t, we should still build more council houses. Also, jesus, you don’t approve of publicly-owned education, you don’t approve of publicly-owned broadcasting... kind of weird positions for a socialist!
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Comrade Fakename posted:Yeah, something used to prop up the state is better than something used to prop up commercial interests, which is what would replace it. And state-owned public broadcasting is an inherently left-wing conceit, the clue is that the Tories are trying to destroy it (and they absolutely have starved it of funding). I actually would absolutely suggest that the council housing model might not be a great one for a labour government to pursue, unless they are prepared to actually destroy housing as a market, because fundamentally what you're doing otherwise is propping up the market. If you are going to pursue a housebuilding program then it would be a very good idea to think very hard about how you're going to stop the next tory government from just selling them all. There are options, you could set them up under a cooperative structure so it's literally not the government's to sell, you could try to actually destroy housing as a commodity/market which would get to the root of the problem far better, the problem with housing isn't a shortage after all, as much as it is it being a market which causes the costs of housing to ramp up artificially. But yes, massive state owned housing programs in a market environment where the state can, at any time, be taken over by turbocapitalists, is not a stable solution. Trying to outbuild the market is a particularly silly solution, some kind of supply side socialism? It's not a weird idea to say that just handing the government power over everything will not solve all problems. Also I don't recall actually commenting at all on the state/private question re: education, I object to the method of educating people, not that it's state owned, so that must be a projection on your part because I most definitely did not say that education should be privately run. If you think state owned broadcasting is inherently left wing then how the hell do you explain russia today? OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Sep 29, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:They haven't starved it of funding, they've used it for its inherent purpose, which is to prop up the government. CON has two cards to play on the NHS: 1) argue that LAB has other priorities and will underfund the NHS as a result (the Brexit Bus gambit) 2) argue that LAB will favour the unions rather than the healthcare services provided by said unions (the 7 day service gambit, but in a previous era the waiting list was a devastating bat to beat LAB about the head with) "inherently left-wing" is tricky; it is, by nature, a political programme that disproportionately benefits doctors (who traditionally vote Conservative to a degree unusual for the highly educated) and the elderly (ditto). People also like having the option of private care even if they never use it; the war against two-tiered care raises unwelcome suspicions. As such LAB benefits by focusing on the glossy principle of free-at-point-of-use and CON benefits by baiting LAB into the bushes of performance indicators and funding priorities
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Jess Flaps on the fash https://twitter.com/The_Swole_Nerd/status/1178040940486938624 
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"not the government's to sell" is the cooperative's to sell, and a proposal to allow cooperatives to cash out will be a popular one. This is an actually-existing dynamic in countries with forms of communal or strata title, or non-title in the case of formalizing slums, e.g.quote:... One concern is that titling leads to commodification and the market-driven displacement of the original inhabitants. Another is that it propagates the ideology of private ownership, undermines collective solidarity and demobilises social movements. This article, based on observations from Mexico City and Guadalajara, finds little evidence of displacement but highlights the importance of location. It supports the view that formalisation undermines resistance, but argues that titling does so by meeting rather than creating the desire of the urban poor for private property and homeownership... (although from my knowledge of slum formalization in Malaysia, displacement also does happen) I think there are also post-Soviet experiences in liquidating public flats but I know little of those
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By the way Guava if/when you get that pedagogy of the oppressed, would you be willing to give a brief synopsis of it? Cos while I'm most of the way through it it contains an immense amount of jargon which makes significant sections of it completely unintelligible to me, it seems to be written for someone who knows a lot of philosophy or something so while I like the parts I can understand, and think I'm getting the general gist of it, it'd be nice to ensure I'm not missing something important. Possibly ironically this does demonstrate what I understand to be part of its thesis, which is that education unsuited to the learner is less than useless 
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half cocaine posted:You should follow Canadian forums poster Rime. I thought maybe I won't search, I'll just pop over to the CanPol thread and get up to speed with how things are looking over there.  I am of course already grateful for the existence of our Jam Grandpa, but maybe I was taking it for granted because holy poo poo it's a shock to be reminded of what your choices look like without even a mild left wing party
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Tarnop posted:Can anyone recommend me some good books about the climate crisis? I'm relatively uninformed beyond the basics, but I'm a science guy so don't mind something that gets heavy. I would recommend two books by Elizabeth Kolbert 'Field notes from a Catastrophe' and 'The Sixth Extinction. They focus more on the impact climate change has on our ecosystems and will likely have, field notes is quite old now but I think is worth reading before sixth extinction which was released a few years ago. It's depressing looking at my climate change books and realising a lot of them were published 10 years ago or more and little has been achieved since then. Well I mean Gaia was published in 1979 FFS. deletebeepbeepbeep fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 29, 2019 |
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Sep 29, 2019 05:25
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Pesky Splinter posted:Jess Flaps on the fash Fascism is bad but on the plus side at least there's a lot more fascists? 
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tHaTS deMoCraCy
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:
Eh, step up from a dead pig. e; As to climate change I'm pretty sure at this point we either get a massive revolution on a global scale that changes the foundations of all human society, all within the next *checks watch* seventeen months, or we get our butts ready for the Bad Times.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:
Boris is going to one up Cameron's pig adventures.
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Eschenique posted:Boris is going to one up Cameron's pig adventures. Isn't it loving insane that a PM hosed a pig and called for brexit to distract the public from the pig loving innit Or at least that's what I heard from a homeless guy in derby
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Eschenique posted:Boris is going to one up Cameron's pig adventures. Looking forward to him refusing to acknowledge his minotaur son.
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OwlFancier posted:Just imagine how he fucks Mods?
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Due to post avatar combo I am now contemplating BorisxGoatse. Internet, what have you done to me.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Looking forward to him refusing to acknowledge his minotaur son. Minotaur daughter with 50 million followers on Instagram.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Is there a change uk conference, I sort of want to turn up with a "Down with this sort of tinge" sign. Late reply but Smith joined the LDs dude.
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ronya posted:"inherently left-wing" is tricky; it is, by nature, a political programme that disproportionately benefits doctors Wait, what are you saying disproportionately benefits us? The NHS? Because that's pretty objectively not true, British doctors are some of the unhappiest with their jobs in developed countries.
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Imagine coming back from Auschwitz-Birkenau and not understanding the importance of challenging all types of right-wing extremism
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Tarnop posted:Can anyone recommend me some good books about the climate crisis? I'm relatively uninformed beyond the basics, but I'm a science guy so don't mind something that gets heavy.
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pitch a fitness posted:I'm a lecturer at a research-intensive uni & I'm happy to say that Lecturers are good now! Same and disagree. I know this will vary wildly between subjects and institutions but... pitch a fitness posted:Most unis now require lecturers to have a PgCert in education/teaching and accreditation with the Higher Education Academy, The HEA accreditation, which is the one most lecturers have, is totally meaningless. You just have to fill in a form and you can mostly make it about your research if you want. pitch a fitness posted:This work emphasises how to get the best teaching done that meets the goals you want for the module, while accommodating students' needs, delivered in innovative ways. You have really bought in to the jargon haven't you? This sounds like a powerpoint slide. pitch a fitness posted:Third, HR here have changed how teaching is regarded when it comes to staff appraisals and teaching is (in theory) now held in the same regard as research Totally untrue at my institution (and I suspect all other up their own arse Russel Groups). I would say, from my point of view as a lecturer: the workload models; the massive numbers of students and the incentives of promotion and/or tenure being totally based on getting grants, the time to think, develop useful stuff and have some kind of ongoing relationship with my students isn't there. Comparing students at my institution with my own uni experience long ago and far away, uni is much more like an extended 6th form college. They take attendance at lectures. There's way more coursework and two exam periods per year. There are now tons of campus mental health services and special needs assistance which are great but perhaps your mental health would be improved most by not having to worry about 50k in student loan debt. The university sector in the UK is broadly split between large and supposedly prestigious education and research universities i.e. the Russel group and other teaching focussed institutions affiliated to organisations like Million+ or GuildHE. It's hard to generalise when the differences between departments in one institution can be as big as between institutions. Generally the trend towards evaluating everything on the basis of scores on the TEF, REF, National Student Survey or University League tables creates some perverse incentives and a kind of reactive panic, since numbers and rankings are only ever allowed to go up and something must be done if they go down. If anyone made it this far... personally I think the classic 'stand in front of a board and talk at the class' style lecture is generally a bad way to teach, but some people are really good at it. I think the education and research university is maybe a good idea, but just like every other institution in society capitalism infected it and made it worse.
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Carborundum posted:Same and disagree. I know this will vary wildly between subjects and institutions but... God this was not the post to read as I'm prepping for a lectureship interview. At least there are 12 candidates for 2 posts so my chances are tiny 
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Ah man BSJ is on Marr, how much have I missed. He's looking shook of course
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It's slowly dawning on me that all of my family voted leave and conservatives and just had a massive argument over immigration and leaving the EU and gently caress me some people are so ridiculously uninformed about this poo poo because of the news media. Just spent a super awkward weekend with my brother because of our views, it sucks 
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Samael posted:It's slowly dawning on me that all of my family voted leave and conservatives and just had a massive argument over immigration and leaving the EU and gently caress me some people are so ridiculously uninformed about this poo poo because of the news media. Just spent a super awkward weekend with my brother because of our views, it sucks Rupert Murdoch has completely ruined so many family relationships around the world, it's insane
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This isn't the first time Bobby Thompson has claimed to have just come back from Auschwitz, demanding that we all remember and also Marxists something something. The only thing it was missing was him conveniently doing this just before he was scheduled to go to the pub, with blow by blow updates on what he was drinking at this definitely real pub he was at.
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BSJ when questioned by Marr on Arcuri - "I'm very very proud of everything we did". Alright then.
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Who is BSJ other than possibly a new strain of mad cow disease? Because I certainly don't think it's Bergholdt Stutteley Johnson.
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OwlFancier posted:Who is BSJ other than possibly a new strain of mad cow disease? I'm making Bloody Stupid Johnson happen for ABdePfJ by myself, because I refuse to go with Boris. This is my quest
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Tarnop posted:Can anyone recommend me some good books about the climate crisis? I'm relatively uninformed beyond the basics, but I'm a science guy so don't mind something that gets heavy. You can read the actual IPCC reports online https://www.ipcc.ch/reports/ . The summaries are often pretty readable. For understanding why we're not doing anything about it, Naomi Klein's "No is Not Enough" is a good resource. For a more uplifting read about what we could do (and how bloody simple it would be!) I'd recommend "Drawdown: The Most Comprehensive Plan Ever Proposed to Reverse Global Warming".
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