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Smiling Jack posted:The most astonishing thing about the Falklands War is that the UK won. If Argentina had the proper fuses in their bombs, they probably would have won. Due to the war's result the military dictatorship in Argentina crumbled, while Thatcher was reinvigorated by it, so more of a pyrrhic victory, sorry about that one 409 is the HTTP status code for Conflict Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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Few pages back but rehab hospitals still definitely exist. Worked at one for a while full of old people just needing a bit of physio/OT. Occasionally they had heart attacks. We're a bit too quick pushing people out of the door in some senses, and too slow in others. You used to get a week's rest after a Caesarean section, which probably was partially due to limitations in surgical/anaesthetic management, but also was probably quite a nice, gentle introduction into parenthood with time to establish breastfeeding etc in hospital. Now they're writing discharge paper as the last stitch goes in. OTOH little Enid will fall, break her hip, get it fixed two days later, then spend a week in for rehab and a further month waiting for her house to get a railing put outside the door. Then she gets hospital acquired pneumonia and dies before discharge.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Compared to whom? Most of the world, actually.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Most of the world, actually. Isn't that good?
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happyhippy posted:I miss the XWing vs Tie Fighter games. Old BF2 is still the superior game though, and it's on Steam.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Isn't that good? It would be except they're simultaneously underfunded and stretched ridiculously thin for the jobs they're expected to do.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I think maggie bullied the french or something? Nah, that was for data on the seeker head on the Exocet, which they did use to improve the decoying of it. The fuses thing is one of those sort-of-true semi-legends, in that a lot of Argentine bombs failed to detonate on impact but that wasn't because they were failing (or failing at a higher-than-expected rate), but in some cases because they were working as designed. Bomb fuses are, for fairly obvious reasons, not actually armed when the bombs are just on the plane - instead they have a mechanism that only arms them a short time after release from the plane (you don't want them to arm immediately because there's a chance of them detonating prematurely when the arming mechanism switches on). You also don't want them detonating close to the plane when they're dropped at low level. The heavy air defences around the fleet meant that the Argentinian pilots were unwilling to climb high enough long enough for the bombs to reliably arm - it's difficult to say how many failures to detonate were caused by pilot error and how many by fuse failure, but it's certainly noticeable that the fuses magically worked a lot better on the attacks on the RFA ships, which were much more lightly defended, than they did on the heavily-defended main landing force in San Carlos. A lot of people still claim this is because of the BBC reporting that the bombs were failing to explode, but there's no real way that the Argentinians could have fixed the fuses in that short a time.
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Pochoclo posted:Just so we're loving clear on this war is poo poo and I hate war, I was simply ridiculing that thing where people believe high tech will make them invulnerable to military losses like they have tesla shields and the enemy has stone spears Remember how the US military went with this angle when a ship got sunk during anti-submarine wargames, and they said North Korea pootled in with a sneaky old-timey sub and did them dirty (and then escaped undetected)
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Why is Google news spamming me with stories about Boris Johnson having sex with people Is that really what peak performance looks like? if so I do not like it!
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Boris Johnsons is apparently having a lot of sex, and you need to know about it.
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The comments here have me confused. When did it become a thing to accuse trans rights advocates of being "beardy", "MRAs" or "incels"?? https://twitter.com/cdbeaton/status/1178360621588463618?s=19
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Coohoolin posted:The comments here have me confused. When did it become a thing to accuse trans rights advocates of being "beardy", "MRAs" or "incels"?? Because the idea is that if you support transwomen (transmen do not exist) then what you're actually doing is trying to destroy women, because transwomen are actually men in dresses who want to destroy women and do sex crimes on them in bathrooms along with their big beardy man friends, it's PC gone mad, my brain is very big.
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The term you used, 'Trans rights activists' or 'TRAs' was coined by TERFs to imply trans women are similar to MRAs. Trans women are not just people trying to live their lives, they're all activists.
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Coohoolin posted:The comments here have me confused. When did it become a thing to accuse trans rights advocates of being "beardy", "MRAs" or "incels"?? When they realised that trans people are slowly getting treated better and TERFs are being more and more marginalised, especially amongst younger generations.
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The world might burn to ash and take me with it but god drat do I want to see the world where the kids today are in charge of it, cos that's gonna be a loving trip.
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Ague Proof posted:The term you used, 'Trans rights activists' or 'TRAs' was coined by TERFs to imply trans women are similar to MRAs. That's interesting, but coincidental- I used "advocates"
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Coohoolin posted:That's interesting, but coincidental- I used "advocates" Oops, my bad.
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I can't help but wonder if there's maybe also some weird accusation of virtue signalling there as well, trying to imply that Incels and MRAs are only supportive of trans women because they want to have sex with them.
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It’s that TERFs are second-wave feminists who have spent their entire lives just assuming that they are progressive. So if someone is attacking them, they must be right-wing. So trans rights people are then bizarrely associated with MRAs and incels and others of their persuasion who in reality also hate trans people.
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OwlFancier posted:The world might burn to ash and take me with it but god drat do I want to see the world where the kids today are in charge of it, cos that's gonna be a loving trip. Given what the hippies turned into, I'd guess beyond-1984 level of suppression of thought hostile to common wellbeing, with the government going full on "Stalin was a liberal" and enforcing climate measures so proactively nothing ever gets off the ground without massive amounts of resources to prove it's not bad for the environment. ... and now that I say that out loud I'd prefer that over the current.
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endlessmonotony posted:suppression of thought hostile to common wellbeing It is impossible for our species to expand without this. (I removed the 1984 mention because it's possible to do it just by being good and serving as a model for children that currently exist)
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Yeah I mean that's ultimately the end goal of any coherent political movement isn't it? To ensure the perpetuation of desirable ideas and the marginalization of undesirable ones? The difference being that people have wildly different notions of what is and isn't a desirable idea and the methods to ensure their perpetuation. But liberals, fascists, communists, all ultimately want a world structured around their ideas cos that's what politics is. Left and right tend to already know what sort of ideas they want and work to impose them for their own ends, either power or out of the belief that it will ultimately liberate people. Liberals, charitable, seem to really love their process, and believe it will magically turn out the best ideas and ensure their propogation. And that pedagogy of the oppressed book is helping to codify a sort of libsoc version of that where the goal is to give people structures and environments that allow them to generate their own liberatory ideas. But politics is a battle of ideas either way, and you want good ones to take precedence over bad ones however you parse those two ideas. Also I'm down with having my gender forcibly annihilated by a thousand perfect androgynous stalinist jojos if it means an end to a lot of bad poo poo. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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i am harry posted:It is impossible for our species to expand without this. (I removed the 1984 mention because it's possible to do it just by being good and serving as a model for children that currently exist) Yeah but I was looking at how the hippie generation went to extreme wealth-worship and hypocritical moralizing - freedom for its own sake and only for the most powerful in the society - and was trying to see how what the youth are doing now could be twisted into a bedazzled hellscape. And my mind went to full Room 101 torture to anyone who dared to voice a thought that didn't have both popular support and overwhelming evidence. And no matter how I twist the ingredients in my head I have been unable to figure out how that setup could be worse than what we already have.
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Comrade Fakename posted:It’s that TERFs are second-wave feminists who have spent their entire lives just assuming that they are progressive. So if someone is attacking them, they must be right-wing. So trans rights people are then bizarrely associated with MRAs and incels and others of their persuasion who in reality also hate trans people. TERFs just keep finding themselves in alliance with people who then turn out to be like. On the board of directors for the Christian foundation of traditional family values etc. Over and over and over again. It can get especially hilarious when Brit TERFs enjoy some main stream success. And then get invited to the US to speak on the issue and the place their invited to is rabidly anti-feminist even by 70s standards. For some this has given them pause. Not enough to un-TERF but enough not to actively aid anti-feminist movements. Some just got on the grift train. Eschenique fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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Watson being a disingenuous poo poo again. No mention of the fact that trigger ballots are supposed to happen prior to every general election https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/29/tom-watson-accuses-hard-left-faction-over-margaret-hodge-reselection-effort
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endlessmonotony posted:Yeah but I was looking at how the hippie generation went to extreme wealth-worship and hypocritical moralizing - freedom for its own sake and only for the most powerful in the society - and was trying to see how what the youth are doing now could be twisted into a bedazzled hellscape. Even though the hippie movement has become emblematic of the 60s it's important to remember that it was always the counterculture. The majority of boomers were never hippies, they've just embraced that symbol as they got older in similar ways to how they definitely fought in WW2 despite being born in 1951.
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Eschenique posted:TERFs just keep finding themselves in alliance with people who then turn out to be like. On the board of directors for the Christian foundation of traditional family values etc. not new: https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/26/style/joining-hands-in-the-fight-against-pronorgraphy.html quote:In both cities, Miss Dworkin and her co-author of the legislation, Catharine A. MacKinnon, a former constitutional law professor at the University of Minnesota, were part of a coalition of radical feminists and conservative women politicians. the UK had its own Schlafly figure in the person of Mary Whitehouse but women did not join the big left tent until relatively recently - if only women's votes counted there would not have been a Labour government until 1997
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Rarity posted:Even though the hippie movement has become emblematic of the 60s it's important to remember that it was always the counterculture. The majority of boomers were never hippies, they've just embraced that symbol as they got older in similar ways to how they definitely fought in WW2 despite being born in 1951. As Harry's Last Stand and the politics of the late 40s-70s should make obvious, the Greatest Generation was not a fan of turboliberalism.
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Tarnop posted:Watson being a disingenuous poo poo again. No mention of the fact that trigger ballots are supposed to happen prior to every general election Still lolling p hard at these Labour Right ghouls unironically claiming that they know what's electable and what's not.
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Short twitter thread here about Labour and Freedom of Movement from a CLP delegate involved in the immigration conference composite. Summary: front bench know they'll need FoM for the deal they propose, but are scared of telling the public due to likely media response https://twitter.com/AHizanidis/status/1177161086707097600 
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Coohoolin posted:The comments here have me confused. When did it become a thing to accuse trans rights advocates of being "beardy", "MRAs" or "incels"?? The TERFs seem to have really upped their twitter presence lately, maybe I'm just noticing it more but all mentions of trans issues seem to be mobbed with a bunch of accounts Airing Readonable Concerns A shame Cherry didn't seem to mention why she spends her time threatening randoms on twitter with legal action for calling her a transphobe, but hey ho https://mobile.twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1173163607254806528
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Angepain posted:The TERFs seem to have really upped their twitter presence lately, maybe I'm just noticing it more but all mentions of trans issues seem to be mobbed with a bunch of accounts Airing Readonable Concerns 
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What are some good left films/docs? I've been looking for some stuff to subjugate others to - Manufacturing Consent and The Corporation are alright, but I can't think of that many fictional films. I caught one on tv a while ago about unions - Chance of a Lifetime - though hard to track down a copy. Wish they had made a film version of this with the below radio cast, oh boy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHwZDWo3e9M
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Nae Pasaran was very good, about the rolls Royce workers that prevented repaired engines going to Chile after the coup.
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