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Tesseraction posted:Just remembering a happier time How close we were to a better world.
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"He can keep his 25 quid" - is he talking about himself? Or does Cameron have 25 quid for some undefined purpose that would be spent somehow if Mark bought his book?
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Sep 30, 2019 14:30
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what. that's not how shops work Wait, which shops work like this?
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Sep 30, 2019 14:32
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"I'm going to keep my 25 quid," doesn't pack the same verbose punch.
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Sep 30, 2019 14:33
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Guavanaut posted:Extra walls for landlords. 
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Sep 30, 2019 14:34
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iirc i thought labour said individual MPs and candidates can endorse sides if they want
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Sep 30, 2019 14:34
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Mark Francois is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Sep 30, 2019 14:35
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'He can keep the 25 quid that he would've reimbursed me with if I had bought it'?
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Sep 30, 2019 14:35
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I agree with him, there's no way that someone with the mediocrity of, say, Philip Davies would have been chosen as an MP if he was a black woman.
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Sep 30, 2019 14:41
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Even putting aside his poor phrasing, its so funny to think that not only did David Cameron deem Mark Francois so unimportant that he didn't even mention him once in his book, but Francois was extremely upset about this and thought it would be worth using in public as an attack on Cameron. Hes an embarrassment of a human being, hes a perfect representative for middle England Brexiters.
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Sep 30, 2019 14:42
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https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1178664532673257472 Also I've shut the parliamentary feed down because it's just the Tories saying poo poo about how "speculation? what speculation. The Labour Party are the cunts"
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Sep 30, 2019 14:42
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Tesseraction posted:https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1178664532673257472 Kind of gratifying to see Swinson getting with the programme for once.
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Sep 30, 2019 14:45
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Szmitten posted:Is there no Parliamentry fun to be had while the conference is happening? I thought they'd try something. read this as 'paramilitary fun'
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Sep 30, 2019 14:48
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Gasmask posted:read this as 'paramilitary fun'
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Sep 30, 2019 14:50
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Darth Walrus posted:Kind of gratifying to see Swinson getting with the programme for once. It was the SNP who where the potential loose cannon this time.
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Sep 30, 2019 14:53
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Guavanaut posted:However on top of this the High Court (E&W) has recently stepped in to say that the Common Law right to dig down to Hell realistically meant digging a basement or root cellar, not the Kola borehole, and so they have ruled that the no planning permission rule only applies to a single storey, you can't have infinite subbasements. Hmm, I wonder how this works with geothermal heating. An acquaintance of mine back in Finland had this thing installed recently, seems like quite a clever technology. Basically, drill a deep hole, 50-100 metres or something iirc, but quite small; put some kind of metal pipe or something in there; the earth's crust being warm will heat the pipe and transfer the heat up. Then you use that for warmth. You know, instead of burning loving gas or some poo poo like it's still the 17th century. The geothermal thing costs nothing, doesn't need much maintenance, doesn't require infrastructure, doesn't pollute, doesn't loving explode randomly like loving gas. Did I mention I hate gas? gently caress gas. Probably moot in London though due all the poo poo already underground, and because nobody even knows what the gently caress is where since there isn't any planning. Also maybe the soil in the UK is not as shallow as it is in Finland
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Sep 30, 2019 15:21
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jaete posted:Probably moot in London though due all the poo poo already underground, and because nobody even knows what the gently caress is where since there isn't any planning. Also maybe the soil in the UK is not as shallow as it is in Finland I can just see someone boring a hole into the underground and connecting it to the mains water.....
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jaete posted:Hmm, I wonder how this works with geothermal heating. An acquaintance of mine back in Finland had this thing installed recently, seems like quite a clever technology. Basically, drill a deep hole, 50-100 metres or something iirc, but quite small; put some kind of metal pipe or something in there; the earth's crust being warm will heat the pipe and transfer the heat up. Then you use that for warmth. You know, instead of burning loving gas or some poo poo like it's still the 17th century. The geothermal thing costs nothing, doesn't need much maintenance, doesn't require infrastructure, doesn't pollute, doesn't loving explode randomly like loving gas. Did I mention I hate gas? gently caress gas. If you're in a city or suburb you probably wouldn't need planning no matter how deep you go for a simple bore, but you would need to notify the relevant departments of the major work, because ground source heat pumps can explode like gas if you put the borehole auger through the gas main.
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jaete posted:Hmm, I wonder how this works with geothermal heating. An acquaintance of mine back in Finland had this thing installed recently, seems like quite a clever technology. Basically, drill a deep hole, 50-100 metres or something iirc, but quite small; put some kind of metal pipe or something in there; the earth's crust being warm will heat the pipe and transfer the heat up. Then you use that for warmth. You know, instead of burning loving gas or some poo poo like it's still the 17th century. The geothermal thing costs nothing, doesn't need much maintenance, doesn't require infrastructure, doesn't pollute, doesn't loving explode randomly like loving gas. Did I mention I hate gas? gently caress gas. coffeetable fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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Sep 30, 2019 15:26
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ground source heat pumps cost a lot for that initial bore. between that and all the planning permission it isn't that financially viable. i've heard figures north of £30k compare that one-off cost per-house to the current 2025 plan of maybe switching the gas network to hydrogen depending on how the boilers handle different fuel ratios, then to a pure hydrogen network later on with incentives
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Sep 30, 2019 15:31
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coffeetable posted:the very shallow geothermal stuff is not so much general-purpose heating as it is equilibrating. it brings your house to the same temperature as the ground, which is about the same as the mean air temperature over the year, which is ~10C in these parts. that's a lot more useful in places with very cold winters (like finland) than it is in the uk. you still need another source of heating to go from 10C to the 20Cish that most people are comfortable at You can also use it as an air conditioner in the summer with less energy use than an air cooled one, because you're cooling the hot side of the air conditioner with 10C water rather than 30C air. e: ^ Ground source in the UK would be best for district heating. Biomethane and methane from plastic pyrolysis might work better for boilers, you don't need to change the jets or get any of the issues of hydrogen embrittlement.
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Sep 30, 2019 15:32
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https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1178581079453814784
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Sep 30, 2019 15:33
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Hold my temporarily embarrassed millionaires!
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Sep 30, 2019 15:35
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https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304 Conservatives are so loving normal
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Sep 30, 2019 15:36
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Isn't there someone who points this out every year, who gets totally ignored?
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Sep 30, 2019 15:37
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304 
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Sep 30, 2019 15:39
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Lol 'Living' wage to £10.50. (In five years) (not for young people)
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Sep 30, 2019 15:40
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304 "I'd rather be sexually assaulted than stay in the EU" is a hell of a loving take
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Sep 30, 2019 15:40
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Guavanaut posted:With ground source heat pumps you also have an electric heatpump doing work. So you use 10C water instead of -20C air as the heat source', the heat pump pulls heat from that and dumps near-freezing water back into the ground loop, producing 20-30C air.
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Sep 30, 2019 15:41
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304 As I tweeted, she's clearly never showered because she's still alive and not just a puddle besides some magic shoes.
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Rarity posted:"I'd rather be sexually assaulted than stay in the EU" is a hell of a loving take "we are comfort women and the EU is Japan"
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Sep 30, 2019 15:42
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304 What the heck 
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Sep 30, 2019 15:43
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Serial Attention Seeker Seeks Attention, Gets
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Sep 30, 2019 15:45
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jfc Hopkins is so loving boring. She's not real, she's a jump scare: half the population giggle and clap, the other half poo poo their pants.
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Sep 30, 2019 15:45
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Why is Boris Johnson touching you so wonderful? The man is a lecherous creep who would likely grope anyone who asked.
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Sep 30, 2019 15:45
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304 wait, is that from this years conference or some older picture?
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coffeetable posted:the very shallow geothermal stuff is not so much general-purpose heating as it is equilibrating. it brings your house to the same temperature as the ground, which is about the same as the mean air temperature over the year, which is ~10C in these parts. that's a lot more useful in places with very cold winters (like finland) than it is in the uk. you still need another source of heating to go from 10C to the 20Cish that most people are comfortable at Hmm, I don't think the borehole was for just equilibrium. Could be wrong though. Also 50-100 metres doesn't sound like "very shallow" to me? I guess there are different "grades" of geothermal things? Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:ground source heat pumps cost a lot for that initial bore. between that and all the planning permission it isn't that financially viable. i've heard figures north of £30k For the thing I'm talking about, the price was around 15 k€ iirc. This was for a detached house, in a suburb, not quite a farm but very far from like central anything. Also, Jesus, hydrogen in place of gas sounds like even more of a loving disaster than gas already is. Is that an actual serious plan? What the gently caress I don't really know anything about heating engineering, but the most common thing by far back in Finland is something called district heating. It's a bit of a mystery to me why everything everywhere (well, in the cities at least) isn't just that. I mean, instead of flammable gas flowing around in flimsy poo poo pipes, you just... don't have that?  Instead, you just, like, flush water around a bit? What am I missing here?
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:wait, is that from this years conference or some older picture? probably older, going by the haircut
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Flayer posted:Why is Boris Johnson touching you so wonderful? The man is a lecherous creep who would likely grope anyone who asked. Or if not asked.
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