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Dr. Arbitrary posted:If we're just throwing out things we want to play, I'm rooting for my fever dream version of Stellaris that was a reskin of Crusader Kings, where having more than a few planets is really hard so there's just all sorts of weird goofball planets as you get further from the core worlds, and those same goofballs are the ones that are most likely to have diplomatic relationships with alien races. BAH GAWD IS THAT EMPEROR OF THE FADING SUNS’ MUSIC?? StarMinstrel posted:Ck3 would be immensely stupid considering ck2 is basically perfect as is. The only thing left to change is insignificant details. I... don’t really agree? Like, just warfare alone could do with being stripped down and rebuilt from scratch. Trade, too, is this weird and awkward system that’s hugely uninteractive. Governments, last time I tried modding them at least, were this giant pile of congealed legacy code and outdated assumptions. Then there’s stuff like dynastic prestige and score, which should maybe be the same, and you could do something cool with but as they are now are kind of pointless vestigial nothings. Baronies also probably need a rework or a removal, as they never really solved the problem they were intended to solve (counts having no internal politics to deal with) and I don’t know what they bring to the game other than add more clicks to building buildings. There’s some value there in modelling “the church has a lot of land here” type stuff but that’s sort of marginal and I think there are probably better ways to do that that don’t horribly gently caress up Oh, right: we don’t even have a macrobuilder yet.  And CK would benefit just as much from the strategic depth in an Imperator-dense map as anything else.
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Eimi posted:Yeah basically a CK3 that tries to be bare bones just won't work today when you have CK2. Counterpoint: they may learn from how Firaxis switched from beloved Civ4 to Civ5 and completely overhaul gameplay. Like you can only play as Christians but now you can be any landless courtier. And all the characters are properly generated in full 3d including bodies so that event pictures are dioramas instead. And the map scale is unprecedented so that you can zoom into individual villages in Ireland. And you don't directly control any army apart from the one your own character leads, and you have physically to be in a place you want to affect. I still don't think they announce CK3 5 months after a very big free update for CK2. But they might do something like that - a completely different game that doesn't directly compete with CK2.
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Its Victoria. Skippin two sequels.
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Wait, I get it. They've licensed Game of Thrones grand strategy game. Remember this tweet.
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ilitarist posted:Wait, I get it. No that already exists  https://youtu.be/m08Z-oDdvlY
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ilitarist posted:Like you can only play as Christians but now you can be any landless courtier. And all the characters are properly generated in full 3d including bodies so that event pictures are dioramas instead. And the map scale is unprecedented so that you can zoom into individual villages in Ireland. And you don't directly control any army apart from the one your own character leads, and you have physically to be in a place you want to affect. I have these kinds of fantasies too but I think mount and blade is probably the closest we are going to get to this rather than anything from paradox. My main fantasy is a large scale map that isn't split up into fixed provinces, just a single dynamic space dotted with cities that armies can move through smoothly.
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Alchenar posted:Battletech: House Lords. Battletech: House of Lords you say? It’s an interesting take on Brexit I’ll give you that.
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ilitarist posted:Counterpoint: they may learn from how Firaxis switched from beloved Civ4 to Civ5 and completely overhaul gameplay. Like you can only play as Christians but now you can be any landless courtier. And all the characters are properly generated in full 3d including bodies so that event pictures are dioramas instead. And the map scale is unprecedented so that you can zoom into individual villages in Ireland. And you don't directly control any army apart from the one your own character leads, and you have physically to be in a place you want to affect. ... did you just describe your perfect ck3 as 'ck2 except now you play first person as a peasant in a village in Ireland
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I did not but now I do. On a more serious note many CK2 features really beg for ability to play unlanded or even not a noble. Half of the societies make little sense for a ruler character, and a lot of mechanics are about you looking at some minor character having fun being an adventurer, joining Varangian guard, crusading, scheming in foreign courts, educating wards, assembling mercenary companies or being a Pope.
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Pdox is doing this Anbennar dev clash because the next Pdox game is a fantasy game
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Alchenar posted:... did you just describe your perfect ck3 as 'ck2 except now you play first person as a peasant in a village in Ireland I would loving love to play another version of Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Especially if it's development wasn't lead by a weird chud guy.
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It's going to be V2, a WW2 ballistic missile simulator.
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I think the idea that a CK3 would just be "CK2 but with less stuff" is silly. If they are making CK3 they are going to have a better gameplan than that, c'mon guys. That said... ilitarist posted:Counterpoint: they may learn from how Firaxis switched from beloved Civ4 to Civ5 and completely overhaul gameplay. Like you can only play as Christians but now you can be any landless courtier. And all the characters are properly generated in full 3d including bodies so that event pictures are dioramas instead. And the map scale is unprecedented so that you can zoom into individual villages in Ireland. And you don't directly control any army apart from the one your own character leads, and you have physically to be in a place you want to affect. ...this is just Mount & Blade.
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CK2 with M&B stuff is basically what I want, tbh. Not the battle stuff, just the sense of location you and all other characters have, instead of just teleporting to wherever you're assigned. That and being an unlanded adventurer type.
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A First Person Grand Strategy Game (FPGSG) where all you can see and hear about the world is what your advisers tell you.
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I'd like Mount & Blade more, but I don't like first person fighting. I think what I really want is a Mount & Blade game that controls like Sid Meier's Pirates somehow. I like the idea of going out on campaign physically or being a lowly military commander or mercenary commander having to manage a war or taking advantage of a war to get your own loot or land, maybe even having to deal with the logistics of sending off messages for diplomacy or commanding subordinates from afar. Of course, you put that together with a grand strategy game and it'd be incredibly frustrating because either you go away and come back and everything's ruined or you leave it to the computer and the computer just runs your army into the ground. Which is...historical, since it was a HUGE concern for leaders back in the day that they had to be RIGHT THERE with their armies or their general could just take their country for themselves, and often a state's bureaucracy would wind up running itself with minimal control from its leader who was too busy to actually rule the country.
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I hope Cities Skylines 2 gets announced, tbh. That game has been succesful enough to warrant a sequel, and it's definitely clunky enough to benefit massively from one.
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Or to put it another way: CK2 but with inspiration from Koei's Rot3K games where you can be a nobody officer and work your way up to Emperor and the higher level you are the more of a traditional Grand Strategy Game it becomes as you delegate power and issue orders.
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Red Bones posted:I hope Cities Skylines 2 gets announced, tbh. That game has been succesful enough to warrant a sequel, and it's definitely clunky enough to benefit massively from one. I see people building these beautiful cities and I load it up to give it another shot and find that I can't even figure out how to make a highway exit turn into a regular road.
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A Chinese Three Kingdoms GSG would be pretty tight, but I'd want to see if they could explore some design spaces that would distinguish it meaningfully from the EU or CK series.
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But, seriously, it's def Vicky 3. They're just being coy.
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Nosfereefer posted:But, seriously, it's def Vicky 3. Yeah it's just gonna be called age of industry or some poo poo
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Take pages from Microsoft and EA, they will announce Victoria One, the third Victoria game.
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Red Bones posted:I hope Cities Skylines 2 gets announced, tbh. That game has been succesful enough to warrant a sequel, and it's definitely clunky enough to benefit massively from one. If I could have any game it would be this one. C:S is great but at this point requires so many mods and assets to play it to its full potential that my thought whenever I think about picking it back up is  Has there been any noise at all about a sequel? The game is coming up on 5 years old at this point and I don't think there has been an expansion in a year or so. Bold Robot fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 1, 2019 |
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Agean90 posted:Yeah it's just gonna be called age of industry or some poo poo Imperator: London
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:Imperator: London Deathmatch: Clausewitz v Jomini
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Now that Civilization 6 has a battle royale mode I'm sure this is the time for Paradox to throw their hat in the ring.
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Chomp8645 posted:Now that Civilization 6 has a battle royale mode I'm sure this is the time for Paradox to throw their hat in the ring. You start as a ck2 county and have to collect powerups to evolve to eu4 opm, then a Vicky2 state, a HOI4 faction then onwards and upwards till Stellaris crisis.
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Chomp8645 posted:Now that Civilization 6 has a battle royale mode I'm sure this is the time for Paradox to throw their hat in the ring. I keep pulling for Tukhachevsky in the gacha, but I keep getting duplicate copies of Budyonny 
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100 Stellaris science ships warp into a star cluster teeming with anomalies. But watch out, the shroud is contracting!
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Chomp8645 posted:Take pages from Microsoft and EA, they will announce Victoria One, the third Victoria game. Also potential titles: Victorias The Victoria Victoria (2020)
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Victoria: eXtreme e: untitled Victorian game Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Oct 1, 2019 |
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YF-23 posted:Also potential titles: Vic360 Victorio - Factroy manager Vampire: The Masquerade: Victoria
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I'd like a Skylines expansion/sequel that gives you a pretty good prebuilt city and all the best realistic objects mods so you can tweak what's there.
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Stairmaster posted:also gently caress you whoever though the jump from civ 4 to 5 was good
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PittTheElder posted:Oh poo poo I've changed my mind, I don't want EU5, I want Voltaire's Nightmare: The Game, non stop Imperial shenanigans! Play as a landless Knight who is a direct vassal of the Emperor for some reason! Try and get appointed Bishop of a diosese in Syria! I actually really genuinely hope that when they do get around to CK3 (which I don't think this new game announcement will be but they will definitely make it eventually) they do go all in on the crazy feudal shenanigans that will make the pretty borders crowd cry. The English king is an independent lord but also a vassal of the French king because he is also a french duke as a totally separate title, and all of this is considered normal and fine. Border gore is the default state of the medieval period and the game should reflect that.
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