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Rip Testes posted:That does not look good at all. gently caress.
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So, that's the tail and a wingtip in the fuel island... I'm just going to hope the fuselage is under a mountain of foam.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:28
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Spaced God posted:gently caress.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:42
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Made some phone calls and as far as I am aware no one I know was on board which makes me selfishly happy, but still, I'm gonna go take a walk because this poo poo fuckin sucks
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Oct 2, 2019 17:45
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Spaced God posted:Made some phone calls and as far as I am aware no one was on board which makes me selfishly happy, but still, I'm gonna go take a walk because this poo poo fuckin sucks So it didn't crash, but was a refueling mishap?
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Oct 2, 2019 17:48
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hobbesmaster posted:So it didn't crash, but was a refueling mishap? My bad I edited my post. Know one *I know* was aboard. I believe it was a relocation flight to an event, but that's all that I can say with certainty
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Oct 2, 2019 17:52
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I flew into BDL last night and flying out tomorrow, should be interesting to see what’s going on when I get there tomorrow.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:54
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Spaced God posted:My bad I edited my post. Know one *I know* was aboard. I believe it was a relocation flight to an event, but that's all that I can say with certainty Oh. Was hoping it wasn't as bad as it seemed.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:54
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StandardVC10 posted:poo poo that plane would visit my home airport every year. I hope at least some of the people on board are okay. I hope everyone aboard is safe.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:55
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hobbesmaster posted:Oh. Was hoping it wasn't as bad as it seemed. Yeah no I'm fairly certain that airframe is gone
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Oct 2, 2019 17:57
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From what I've read it sounds like the #4 engine stopped working and they returned to Bradley. Three crew, 10 pax, and this unofficial report says 2 have died. https://www.courant.com/breaking-ne...sdiu-story.html quote:While there is no official word on the number of deaths, sources say at least two people have died and three others have critical injuries. The plane was one of five at the airport for the Wings of Freedom tour.
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Oct 2, 2019 18:16
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Aargh posted:And an internal view of that RAAF C-17 Huh always assumed it had a yoke since it's Boeing and a transport plane..
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Oct 2, 2019 18:17
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LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:Huh always assumed it had a yoke since it's Boeing and a transport plane.. It's a Boeing in the same way the F-15 and F-18 are Boeings
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Oct 2, 2019 18:33
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AzureSkys posted:From what I've read it sounds like the #4 engine stopped working and they returned to Bradley. Three crew, 10 pax, and this unofficial report says 2 have died. Reports now are that the airplane had some kind of mechanical issue in flight, came back to the airport, lost directional control on landing, and crashed into the airport deicing facility.
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Oct 2, 2019 18:58
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Death toll up to 5 now
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Oct 2, 2019 19:03
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fknlo posted:Death toll up to 5 now On article I read reported that some of the people taken to the hospital were 'unrecognizable' from injuries. Not sounding good.
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Oct 2, 2019 19:07
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I think I read there were 13 souls aboard and six of those were in the hospital. The math is simple and sad. It also gives me pause to taking a warbird flight ever. Is that a foolish fear as these planes age and the airworthiness relies on the good graces of donations?
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Oct 2, 2019 20:10
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Rip Testes posted:I think I read there were 13 souls aboard and six of those were in the hospital. The math is simple and sad. These planes were never the safest things back in the day either. Piston airliners and bombers had engine and other major failures with alarming regularity by modern standards.
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Oct 2, 2019 20:18
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Rip Testes posted:I think I read there were 13 souls aboard and six of those were in the hospital. The math is simple and sad. Taking a warbird flight is certainly more risky than taking the bus to McDonalds for a cup of coffee. The question is, whether the experience is worth the extra risk. I'd think for most people posting here, the answer would still be unreservedly yes.
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Oct 2, 2019 20:29
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hobbesmaster posted:These planes were never the safest things back in the day either. Piston airliners and bombers had engine and other major failures with alarming regularity by modern standards. That's one reason for the 4 motors. While not carrying a bomb load, the B-17 should fly just fine on any two engines. The plane has enough lift, that the takeoff procedure is to just floor it till it takes off. Now we have several things going against them. they're running the motors "severely detuned" because they cant' get 115 octane. Also, I suspect those pilots aren't... on their A game. Through age, and potentially lack of practice, I bet there's a fair amount of "uh what's the smart thing to do.." in the case of an emergency. If this were a simple engine out, even multi engine out, the landing should have been uneventful. I wonder if there's video.
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Oct 2, 2019 21:00
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RIP 9-0-9  
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Oct 2, 2019 21:30
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Comanche 2.0! VERSATILE. LETHAL. SUSTAINABLE. BELL http://news.bellflight.com/en-US/182601-versatile-lethal-sustainable-bell-announces-360-invictus-for-u-s-army-fara-competition
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Oct 2, 2019 22:16
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joat mon posted:Taking a warbird flight is certainly more risky than taking the bus to McDonalds for a cup of coffee. The question is, whether the experience is worth the extra risk. I'd think for most people posting here, the answer would still be unreservedly yes. I've flown on Aluminum Overcast and I'd do it again.
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Oct 2, 2019 22:23
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We were at an airshow a few years back, and the weather was too bad for rides so we got to tour it on the ground. I got a ton of photos inside and out.  
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Oct 2, 2019 22:53
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What a sad day and what rotten luck.
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Oct 2, 2019 23:41
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Switzerland posted:Comanche 2.0! "Invictus" is a stupid name but that's a great looking chopper right there.  I wonder if we'll ever find out any real information about the stealth Blackhawks from the bin Laden raid?
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Oct 3, 2019 01:35
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"fire mission, over" "fire mission, out" "get that laser outta my face"
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Oct 3, 2019 02:01
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Sagebrush posted:"Invictus" is a stupid name but that's a great looking chopper right there. Wait long enough and the president will probably tweet some pix.
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CommieGIR posted:RIP 9-0-9  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cML_n9e5cM
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Oct 3, 2019 02:34
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It is in extremely poor taste, but someone is inevitably going to photoshop a lone AOA sensor onto the side of a B17
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Oct 3, 2019 02:39
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RIP 9-o-9. I flew on FIFI, knew the risk, and couldn't think of a better way to go if that was the day. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
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Oct 3, 2019 03:23
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7 confirmed dead, 9 injured (6 on the plane and 3 on the ground) 2 of the injured on the plane are Simsbury, CT firefighters, another was a CT Air National Guardsman (CTANG is based at Bradley) https://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Firefighters-Respond-to-Incident-Involving-Plane-at-Bradley-Airport-561969581.html
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EvenWorseOpinions posted:It is in extremely poor taste, but someone is inevitably going to photoshop a lone AOA sensor onto the side of a B17 I've already seen a post (elsewhere) jokingly explain it as the fault of MCAS. So, yeah. I was literally reading about nine-o-nine a few nights ago, I swear, but I can't find it in my history or my searches or anywhere and it's driving me a bit crazy. (I found that "joke" while searching for posts trying to locate the post i saw a few days ago.) It was one of the tour videos and I hit up wikipedia for info instead, meaning to watch the video later.
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Oct 3, 2019 04:09
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Spaced God posted:gently caress.  Go easy old girl.
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It's too soon, too appropriate, and I've posted it before, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-uZoTDFs4M
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How many B17s are still air worthy? IIRC we lost another one to fire just a few years ago... it seems like before long there will be none flying. This crash happened locally to me and I had even debated buying myself and my dad a flight. I feel so sad for those people who were just out to enjoy such an awesome piece of history.
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a dingus posted:How many B17s are still air worthy? IIRC we lost another one to fire just a few years ago... it seems like before long there will be none flying. 9. I believe there are 2 undergoing restoration to airworthiness (Desert Rat, Champaign Lady) Edit: took one out of the list Dr.Smasher fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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I have noticed, when fooling around with the systems in military airplanes in DCS, that most fighter jets don't seem to have a way to tune into VORs or NDBs -- just TACAN or whatever the Russian equivalent is called (RSBK or something). Why is this? Do military jets just not use the civilian radio nav system as a matter of policy? Is it too easy to spoof those signals to make them worth trusting? Is it considered that TACAN, AWACS and INS are good enough to not need the civilian systems as a backup? Or is it just that DCS isn't modeling the systems correctly, military jets do have the ability to tune VORs, and this whole question is pointless?
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Sagebrush posted:I have noticed, when fooling around with the systems in military airplanes in DCS, that most fighter jets don't seem to have a way to tune into VORs or NDBs -- just TACAN or whatever the Russian equivalent is called (RSBK or something). DCS doesn't have VORs modeled at all for some reason. I assume that they figure its not very relevant because they'd be VORTAC stations if the US military is allied and anywhere nearby?
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