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Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


Vichan posted:



Their honesty is refreshing.

Is there a collection of PragerU's graphs somewhere? Because my goodness, that's pretty terrible.

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PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


So they're just hoping none of their viewers know how extreme two sig figs of anomaly is because holy moly

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
Or know what a standardized anomaly is at all. I don't think I've seen that verbiage before.

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


Rex-Goliath posted:

So they're just hoping none of their viewers know how extreme two sig figs of anomaly is because holy moly

The point is that the number's small. A big number is bad, a small number is good!

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
I see this is different from what was being said 2 years ago which was that "sea ice isn't shrinking, it's growing"

So now it's shrinking but "it isn't that bad" soon to be followed up with "and people aren't causing it"

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Dammerung posted:

The point is that the number's small. A big number is bad, a small number is good!

They also like to do this with CO2. "It makes up such a small proportion of the atmosphere. Of course we can double/triple it with no ill effects. It's still a small number!"

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

I can't recall anyone in the actual Bush administration saying anything about them. I think it started with a few radio stations Taking a Stand for Are Troops and announcing they would no longer be playing their music, and it snowballed from there with the help of talk radio.

It was this.

It was back during when America lost its collective mind and wanted revenge for 9/11 even if it was aimed at the wrong country/people. Support for the Iraq invasion was insanely high in 2003 or so and anyone who even dared to say "umm....wait. What did Iraq have to do with 9/11 and why are we invading them" was viewed as a terrorist sympathizer who hated America and anyone who thought it was a dumb idea was told to move to France and all sorts of dumb poo poo. Songs like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yLQRF-cEU

summed up the collective mindset.

Toby Kieth wrote this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc

both contain some of the dumbest lyrics you'd (n)ever want to hear.

Congress actually changed the name of fried potatoes in the cafeteria from french fries to freedom fries.

It basically went from a horrific and shocking terrorist attack on American soil that briefly had us all sort of on the same page and vaguely united for about 5 days to a WWE story line where everyone wanted to kill The Iron Sheik.

The Dixie Chicks basically had the audacity to be women with brains that performed country songs and didn't like GWB.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

BiggerBoat posted:

Toby Kieth wrote this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc

both contain some of the dumbest lyrics you'd (n)ever want to hear.


The worst line was "somewhere in the back," when you know full loving well he intended "A mighty sucker punch came flyin' in from somewhere in Iraq."

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



MrUnderbridge posted:

So the "Do nothing Democrats " seems to be the order of attack. I've seen it in both politoons and in RNC attack ads on a local candidate. "Why aren't they working to fix our problems, instead of playing politics? "

Which is galaxy brain levels of projection and "Hey, look over there!"

Funny how they don't get specific about what the Democrats actually are doing. Wonder why.

the democrats in the house have passed a bunch of bills that have just died in the senate. its just trump giving his base a lie they can hang onto.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
We are beyond hosed.

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1180971632975908865?s=21

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

It's a shame, because it's a well-written song, just... you know, evil. Keith claimed at one point that he didn't support the war personally but wrote the song from the point of view of his war hawk dad, but if that's true it was a subtlety that was lost on his audience.

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db6QIx11vMA

turnip kid
May 24, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvfYE7ZdL0

I didn’t know this guy was still around

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

turnip kid posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvfYE7ZdL0

I didn’t know this guy was still around

Kind of hard to believe he's been off TV for close to a decade now. Time has not been kind of Mr. Crazy Chalkboard.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Glenn Beck is back with his infamous chalkboard diagrams to explain everything.

I didn't know he still did this poo poo


Just lol at "here to clear all this up, washed up and not at all insane grifter, opportunist ,TV personality and author, Glenn Beck! You remember Glenn Beck, right? RIGHT?"

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I wonder if this is freelance Ukraine narrative building or if someone threw old chalkboard Beck a line to pull him out of obscurity? Pretty clear that his role is to be one more mouth piece seeding the idea that "Ukraine = Biden bad" to inoculate the base against anything in that realm, just curious if he's picking up on it as a part of the bigger ecosphere and running with it or if he's being fed the party line in advance.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i think chapo is right that the rise of q-anon hosed over beck a lot. why do you need him connecting the dots when you can have the fun yourself.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

turnip kid posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvfYE7ZdL0

I didn’t know this guy was still around

Colonel Sanders needs to hit the gym.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

turnip kid posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvfYE7ZdL0

I didn’t know this guy was still around

I like how he's edited his picture in the thumbnail to look super trim.

What a vain little turd.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

"vain little turds" would make a good thread title

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Groovelord Neato posted:

i think chapo is right that the rise of q-anon hosed over beck a lot. why do you need him connecting the dots when you can have the fun yourself.

Beck took a few years off in obscurity and came back without hair dye.

But hasn't Alex Jones remained through that time? Just put out a video "Trump Activates US Marine Corps to Stop Foreign Backed Coup FULL EMERGENCY SHOW 10/6/2019" in fact.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


glenn beck was far more popular than alex jones will ever be. he has a net worth of a quarter billion dollars.

turnip kid
May 24, 2010
He doesn't capitalize 'Trump' when he writes about him, so you're supposed to think Beck's just some gee-golly-shucks independent trying to get to the bottom of this whole controversy.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Groovelord Neato posted:

glenn beck was far more popular than alex jones will ever be. he has a net worth of a quarter billion dollars.

More general public appeal, sure? But Alex Jones has just kept going and stoking the flames.

I'm watching this most recent AJ output and he unironically cites a Natural News article regarding Marines being activated for work within the US (clearly within the purview of naturalnews.com, that, but they've got plenty of front page articles in the right wingnut spectrum)

there are people who believe the things he says and Beck never appealed as much to the truly dangerous.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

FFT posted:

Beck took a few years off in obscurity and came back without hair dye.

But hasn't Alex Jones remained through that time? Just put out a video "Trump Activates US Marine Corps to Stop Foreign Backed Coup FULL EMERGENCY SHOW 10/6/2019" in fact.

Beck didn't support Trump during the elections, so had to disappear else get Trumped afterwards.
But he really fell over on his 9/12 project, thinking it would take off and become a new Tea Party.
Beck gained a lot of boomer viewers during the Tea Party, they liked him dressing up in 1770s cosplay and linking reverse space vampires to Hilary on chalkboards.
But the 9/12 project flopped, and he killed off half his boomers with the scammy Goldline ads and personal recommendations to invest in gold coins that will instantly lose 30% of their worth.

Alex has been crazy from the start, no one listened to crazy back then.
But then Obama made the nuts think everything was a conspiracy, so they watched and that let him say wilder and wilder things.
Alex is only toning it down these days as he got sued for it and has to maintain a low profile to dodge that if possible.
If he gets away with it, I am sure he will be back to full on moon crazy to scam the nuts into buying soy based brain juices.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

turnip kid posted:

He doesn't capitalize 'Trump' when he writes about him, so you're supposed to think Beck's just some gee-golly-shucks independent trying to get to the bottom of this whole controversy.

The local conservative talk radio station where I live still has Glenn Beck on during the morning commute hours, so I've loosely followed his trajectory over the past few years. He definitely comes across as a former big deal in desperate search for a new audience. He flips between "Aw-shucks sweater-wearing Reasonable Conservative", "Politically incorrect shock jock", "Cool youth pastor that doesn't think that gay marriage is a big deal", and "Weeping preacher begging America to repent and turn to Christ over gay marriage" every couple of weeks. Despite his tepid dislike of Trump, he's trying to appeal to demographics that went all-in on Trump and haven't looked back.

I mean, there was that time a year or two ago where he said "Well, a progressive said a mean thing about me, so I'm on the Trump Train now, baby! Look at me wearing this MAGA hat! Woaaaah! Lock her up, build that wall, ha ha!" but that didn't last long either. It's sad, really.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

The local conservative talk radio station where I live still has Glenn Beck on during the morning commute hours, so I've loosely followed his trajectory over the past few years. He definitely comes across as a former big deal in desperate search for a new audience. He flips between "Aw-shucks sweater-wearing Reasonable Conservative", "Politically incorrect shock jock", "Cool youth pastor that doesn't think that gay marriage is a big deal", and "Weeping preacher begging America to repent and turn to Christ over gay marriage" every couple of weeks. Despite his tepid dislike of Trump, he's trying to appeal to demographics that went all-in on Trump and haven't looked back.

I mean, there was that time a year or two ago where he said "Well, a progressive said a mean thing about me, so I'm on the Trump Train now, baby! Look at me wearing this MAGA hat! Woaaaah! Lock her up, build that wall, ha ha!" but that didn't last long either. It's sad, really.

It's almost like some of these people are shills who only want to make money.

thin blue whine
Feb 21, 2004
PLEASE SEE POLICY


Soiled Meat
I saw Brooke Binkowski retweet this earlier, for anyone who wonders, "Who funds The Federalist?"

https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1177305947586342913

Eschenique
Jul 19, 2019

Strange Poon posted:

I saw Brooke Binkowski retweet this earlier, for anyone who wonders, "Who funds The Federalist?"

https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1177305947586342913

Soros! Just as I expected....

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?
https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1181374689593176064

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
I miss the days when the worst conspiracy was that RealClearPolitics was intentionally loving with the PredictIt polling bets.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Eschenique posted:

Soros! Just as I expected....

Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

I miss the days when the worst conspiracy was that RealClearPolitics was intentionally loving with the PredictIt polling bets.

Neither of you read the linked tweets or articles did you?

Edit: I double checked and I see no Soros.

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Oct 8, 2019

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Apparently RealClearPolitics runs the federalist, which is just... great.

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING


Wait people didn't realize RCP was a right wing joint? Whenever I visited their polling tracker they would always have crank hillary / soros poo poo on the sidebars

Them funding the Federalist is pretty lol though

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Feldegast42 posted:

Wait people didn't realize RCP was a right wing joint? Whenever I visited their polling tracker they would always have crank hillary / soros poo poo on the sidebars

Them funding the Federalist is pretty lol though

I figured they were centrist bullshit like J-Tapps, but not full blown right-wing nutjobs.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Feldegast42 posted:

Wait people didn't realize RCP was a right wing joint? Whenever I visited their polling tracker they would always have crank hillary / soros poo poo on the sidebars

Them funding the Federalist is pretty lol though

Yeah I don't get it either, I thought it was common knowledge they were a Republican site going back well before the 2004 elections, that just also happened to have a pretty decent poll tracker that people could reference.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
It shows you what a blank slate most voters are, pre 2016 I was just as bad myself. Most of us just blindly trust whatever we read and accept it at face value.

Great Metal Jesus
Jun 11, 2007

Got no use for psychiatry
I can talk to the voices
in my head for free
Mood swings like an axe
Into those around me
My tongue is a double agent
Was just arguing with an acquaintance about the El Paso shooter because I hate life and also myself. It's honestly fascinating just how much we live in nearly completely different realities sometimes.

The shooter was a leftist because he wanted UBI and identified the financial sector as a thing that's loving working Americans. The fact that his solution was driving the immigrants out and killing as many non whites as he personally could has no bearing on this because racism isn't fundamentally right wing because Democrats founded the KKK. Also it was the nationalist SOCIALIST party.

I pointed out how only one party right now is stoking anti-immigtant rhetoric but at best to him that's secondary to the shooter's economic policy. It's all just so loving weird and frustrating. Like if yeah the dude had gone and blown up a bank instead he'd be a left wing terrorist but weirdly enough that isn't what he did at all :thunk:

On some level I actually do find it really interesting because I don't engage with a whole lot of right wing rhetoric in real life so having to fight against concentrated doses of it is surreal.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
noted respecters of the financial sector: white nationalists

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Mr Hootington posted:

Neither of you read the linked tweets or articles did you?

If you ever had money on PredictIt polls you'd know that my feelings were deadly serious :).

For me, RCP is in a weird memory hole. I thought they were fairly boring and non-biased, and then as soon as I read the comments I remembered that their actual articles sucked and were typical right-wing or libertarian poo poo and this shouldn't be much of a surprise. But since I just looked at the polling aggregate I kind of forgot. Although the Russian connection is odd.

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