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sexpig by night posted:plus let's not forget the whole...motherfucker loved the Shah, like genuinely seemed to think that guy was a good man as well as a politically useful friend... Was the Shah that much worse than what the Iranian revolution leadership turned into 40 years later serious question, I don't know much about what the Shah was doing back then
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Was the Shah that much worse than what the Iranian revolution leadership turned into 40 years later Dude set a theatre full of civilians on fire so I'ma go with 'pretty fuckin bad'
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Was the Shah that much worse than what the Iranian revolution leadership turned into 40 years later without excessively Typoposting, i'd genuinely take the Islamic Republic of Iran over the Shah the former is nominally / theoretically democratic and can be influenced by the populace after it murders a shitload of them, the shah would just murder a shitload of them and keep doing his thing things have improved  rip Mossadegh
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:When we capture people and they barter for their lives we'll say, "ah, but what does the beltway think?". The Beltway is an alligator pit.
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mod sassinator posted:Nah, go watch the CNN documentary series on the modern presidents and Carter's episode. He wasn't bad but he wasn't exactly good either--he had no idea how to work with Congress to get things passed, and that torpedoed his chances of a second term. The hostage crisis was a complete mess under his leadership. IIRC he went through a few complete reboots of his cabinet too in attempts to get things under control. He was a good peanut farmer and nuke boat engineer, but a good president? The best you can say is he wasn't terrible. you will notice that i very specifically chose my words to explicitly not say that he was the best president, but that he was the best man that was president. the two aren't necessarily synonymous. like, FDR was definitely a better president than Jimmy Carter, but also I think Jimmy Carter was a better man than FDR.
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Bugsy posted:So much crazy rudy. I'm really struck by the right pretending that the whistleblower complaint is somehow the deciding, or even relevant, evidence in the impeachment case, and not all the files and calls and poo poo that it points to, the legitimacy of the complaint literally doesn't matter. Then they're acting like it's a court of law, which it's not, since it's a political decision and not a legal one so "fruit of a poison tree doesn't apply" but even if it was bound by the rules, I could call the police and be like "yo, I heard this dude does hella crimes" and they could issue warrants and gather evidence and I'd never even have to testify, or tell anyone my name. It's really telling that their narrative is wholly specious, and most Republican senators still haven't managed to do any research into this issue after two weeks.
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Crows Turn Off posted:They've gotta be running out of lawyers by now. It's like those spoofs of the Mr. Wizard show where they keep blowing up the kid. "We're gonna need another Rudy!" When I was evicted I was served notice of the court case a day after it happened under the excuse they could never find me at home. When I didn't pay the bills the courts just garnished my paychecks to hell. Sure would be nice if the same happened to rich people SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Lol that it takes them 8 minutes and change to badly refute the allegations and it takes 10 seconds to explain the allegations, I feel like that's a bad sign
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Elviscat posted:I'm really struck by the right pretending that the whistleblower complaint is somehow the deciding, or even relevant, evidence in the impeachment case, and not all the files and calls and poo poo that it points to, the legitimacy of the complaint literally doesn't matter. Trump and his cabal are so transparently guilty of such monstrous attacks on the US that their only play is to try and muddy the waters so much that the public starts having doubts. But all they have is "whistleblowers bad" (which as you note is meaningless), and "no House vote, impeachment illegitimate!" which is both false afaict and also completely meaningless. He can try to cling on and maybe even succeed, but the most likely outcome of that is a thunderbolt from Zeus himself to their chances in 2020. I'm not surprised the gop is a pack of brown nosing toadies but the smart play would be to turn on Trump right now, clean house, and try to get the whole mess in the rearview mirror by the time the election rolls around. Probably the whole lot of them are too compromised to do that anyway though, lol
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I'm so sad for the kurds man, loving god damnit
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Elviscat posted:I'm really struck by the right pretending that the whistleblower complaint is somehow the deciding, or even relevant, evidence in the impeachment case, and not all the files and calls and poo poo that it points to, the legitimacy of the complaint literally doesn't matter. They want to beat "second-hand info hearsay!!!" into every chud's head to the point where they just involuntarily vomit the words up anytime they hear "impeachment", and the best way to do that is via endless repetition.
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The difference this time being that the DoJ can’t shut down the House investigations. gently caress Barr.
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Elviscat posted:Then they're acting like it's a court of law, which it's not, since it's a political decision and not a legal one so "fruit of a poison tree doesn't apply" but even if it was bound by the rules, I could call the police and be like "yo, I heard this dude does hella crimes" and they could issue warrants and gather evidence and I'd never even have to testify, or tell anyone my name. also, to be clear, the role of the House in impeachment is that of the grand jury: they investigate then decide if charges should be referred for trial and, every single day, all around the country, grand juries exist that hear evidence in complete secrecy, where talking about what you hear as a grand juror is illegal, only the prosecutor gets to present evidence, that evidence doesn't have to obey the rules of evidence and be admissible or relevant or anything, it is gathered through broad subpoena authority that entities subpoenaed MUST comply with, no one has a right to counsel or even to be present there, no one has a right to cross examine witnesses, etc etc. in fact, a president being impeached in the house has traditionally been given much MORE rights than he would receive were this the early stages of a criminal prosecution eke out fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1181642947449761793?s=21 Not bad.
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So I guess today is the day when the President of the United States will start tweeting about dicks.
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BigglesSWE posted:So I guess today is the day when the President of the United States will start tweeting about dicks. He's been retweeting his kids for a while now.
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He's always promoting himself.
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Crossposting from Middle East Thread here...The Lone Badger posted:It should be said again: the Turkish military knew in advance that this was going to happen. The US military did not. At what point does the CIA and US military decide Trump is too dangerous/risk to have in power and arrange/pressure his removal from office? Unless that’s what got Nancy moving on impeachment besides the Ukraine call. I wonder if they can get McConnell to break for removal if they pressure him.
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DC Murderverse posted:you will notice that i very specifically chose my words to explicitly not say that he was the best president, but that he was the best man that was president. the two aren't necessarily synonymous. like, FDR was definitely a better president than Jimmy Carter, but also I think Jimmy Carter was a better man than FDR. I guess another angle to take would be like Grant. Great man, lovely president Elviscat posted:I'm really struck by the right pretending that the whistleblower complaint is somehow the deciding, or even relevant, evidence in the impeachment case, and not all the files and calls and poo poo that it points to, the legitimacy of the complaint literally doesn't matter. This is because they can slander and bash a person. They can accuse that person of lying for whatever reason. They can attack it The rest of the poo poo? they can't do anything and going through it to find something, anything to discredit it somehow might force them to actually look at what happened and how big a fuckup on all their parts is. They would have to face reality SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Oct 9, 2019 12:34
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Do you think Donny’s one of those old people who only sleeps 5 hours a night?
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Er, curious that there's no link to the article in the Post, but I'm guessing it was Kessler who should be shot into space in a rocket fueled by pinocchios. e: yep i was right https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/04/schiffs-false-claim-his-committee-had-not-spoken-whistleblower/ ewiley fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Do you think Donny’s one of those old people who only sleeps 5 hours a night? It's well documented that he is, and has been for a long time. He considers sleep to be for the weak. Hence that hilarious story about him playing Tiny Dancer on repeat at exceptionally high volume on Air Force One to ensure no-one else slept either. The obvious stimulant abuse might be another factor
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Wednesday Rage https://twitter.com/LaikenJordahl/status/1181742066058981376
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BigglesSWE posted:So I guess today is the day when the President of the United States will start tweeting about dicks. He tweets about Tucker and Hannity all the time.
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Seriously though, is Barr really still in Italy?
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Is the wall being built or not? I know Trump always says it is, and then everyone demonstrates that he's lying or it's just upkeep of existing fences or whatever, and then there's posts like this.
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Residency Evil posted:Seriously though, is Barr really still in Italy? I'm not sure about Italy, but yes he is apparently still out of the country and I can find no reference to him returning in the past few days. He is evidently doing a tour of everywhere looking for Trump's imaginary anti-democrat dirt (read: literally searching for fictitious Her Emails servers that will totally corroborate Pizzagate) edit: Antifa Turkeesian posted:Do you think Donny’s one of those old people who only sleeps 5 hours a night? There is genuine theorizing about him not sleeping at all on at least some days (or obeying 35 hour wake cycles etc.) He's blatantly abusing hard stimulants, so he stays awake well past healthy limits and likely suffers the effects of sleep deprivation constantly. SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Do you think Donny’s one of those old people who only sleeps 5 hours a night? Probably closer to like 30-35 hour awake cycles.
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I thought us attorney general is one of those positions that handles solely domestic affairs.
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Slowpoke! posted:I thought us attorney general is one of those positions that handles solely domestic affairs. he is! He's handling them by getting foreign governments to investigate all our crimes now. Seemed easier than trying to run a whole department, especially one based on a silly thing like justice
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this person is 33 years old. https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1181836695001387008
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Groovelord Neato posted:this person is 33 years old. I feel like she's been so owned on Twitter already that anything else is superfluous, but it's really great that she uses Tony Blair as an excuse when most people's issues with him definitely included his sycophantic support of Bush's wars. I'm about 6 months older than her and I truly found that tweet to be baffling. Jameela has really been sliding in my estimation from "fairly right-on body positivity outspoken celeb" to "oblivious celeb unaware of privilege" to "extremely online" ending up now at "probably dumb as hell". FWIW tho I still really like her character and performance on that show, and she fine af so 
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Groovelord Neato posted:this person is 33 years old. Leave Tahani alone. She's been going through some poo poo.
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Groovelord Neato posted:this person is 33 years old. I mean, most Americans don't understand how bad Bush was (that much is obvious from this week) so I'm not sure why we're singling out one British actress. Kudos to her for at least admitting it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:this person is 33 years old. We are in the bad place.
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