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TheKingofSprings posted:Recurring EE alone sounds like heck EE on 6. Get 'em!
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TheKingofSprings posted:Recurring EE alone sounds like heck Resolving Emry and knowing it's safe is just absurd.
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Oct 13, 2019 20:22
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TheKingofSprings posted:27 actually! I'm just worried WotC will hit Opal this time, instead of Urza.
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Oct 13, 2019 20:57
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mehall posted:I'm just worried WotC will hit Opal this time, instead of Urza.
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Oct 13, 2019 21:04
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Tubgoat posted:Lol, Urza is 24 of those decks. So long, Opal! This is Urza's format now! Jund is also 15, so long Goyf! Tron has 16, goodbye Urza lands! Primetime, your days are numbered too! (also 16) People complained about a bunch of supposedly underpowered sets, and now that there's actually cards making an impact in older formats, people are complaining that the cards are too good. Hogaak was likely an issue, but the format's still evolving, maybe give it some time? I mean there were folks around here who unironically wanted Death Shadow banned when those decks first started getting popular, Cavern of Souls when humans started being a thing, Hell people were saying Hollow One should eat a ban the 5 minutes that was a deck. alansmithee fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Oct 13, 2019 21:11
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mehall posted:I'm just worried WotC will hit Opal this time, instead of Urza. Opal has been the lynchpin of two different banned decks in a year and a half, I wouldn’t give it two years until we’re back here again.
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Oct 13, 2019 21:18
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TheKingofSprings posted:Opal has been the lynchpin of two different banned decks in a year and a half, I wouldn’t give it two years until we’re back here again. Except Opal isn't the lynchpin of the Urza deck. That's kind of the basis of our concern. Opal is a problem card, but it isn't what makes Urza work. It just makes it a bit faster.
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AlternateNu posted:Except Opal isn't the lynchpin of the Urza deck. That's kind of the basis of our concern. Opal is a problem card, but it isn't what makes Urza work. It just makes it a bit faster. Urza deck will keep on trucking without opal and it’s not even debatable.
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AlternateNu posted:Except Opal isn't the lynchpin of the Urza deck. That's kind of the basis of our concern. Opal is a problem card, but it isn't what makes Urza work. It just makes it a bit faster. If Urza were a turn 5 combo kill, nobody would care. It's that fact that it often turn 3s an actual kill, and more often turn 3s an unbeatable board position that makes it stupid.
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Oct 13, 2019 21:27
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Oct 13, 2019 21:32
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TheKingofSprings posted:Opal has been the lynchpin of two different banned decks in a year and a half, I wouldn’t give it two years until we’re back here again. Weird way to spell Faithless Looting 
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Oct 13, 2019 21:44
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Would banning Opal be more like the Bridge ban where it didn't matter or the Looting ban where it was also paired with correctly banning the broke-rear end wincon from modern horizons, and incidentally kills a half-dozen other decks?
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Oct 13, 2019 21:59
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Would banning Opal be more like the Bridge ban where it didn't matter or the Looting ban where it was also paired with correctly banning the broke-rear end wincon from modern horizons, and incidentally kills a half-dozen other decks? Looting needed to go, that was clear prior to Hogaak. I don't think it's like banning Bridge, because banning Opal does absolutely kill a bunch of possible decks, as well as hurting another set of decks that make use of it but can slow down in favour of more consistency. I *get* why, if WotC ban Opal, why they did it, but I disagree because the number of decks using it in a very fair way are huge. Banning Opal from KCI wouldn't have changed all the problems with KCI, and it wouldn't destroy Urza, but it sure as poo poo would hit a bunch of other decks a lot harder.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:06
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mehall posted:Banning Opal from KCI wouldn't have changed all the problems with KCI, and it wouldn't destroy Urza, but it sure as poo poo would hit a bunch of other decks a lot harder.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:08
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Would banning Opal be more like the Bridge ban where it didn't matter or the Looting ban where it was also paired with correctly banning the broke-rear end wincon from modern horizons, and incidentally kills a half-dozen other decks? Urza should absolutely be banned but PO’s just gonna pivot to Emry Ascendancy
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Oct 13, 2019 22:11
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Time posted:Modern is worse now than it was pre horizons I know the top8 alone is a bad metric, but the tournament has 7 pretty drat different decks represented.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:15
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Just ban Mox Opal and Mox Amber. Urza can live on in Thopter Sword decks, but nobody gets mana acceleration for free anymore. I wouldn't mind if Arcum's Astrolabe was also axed from Modern as well as Pauper.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:16
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ShaneB posted:I know the top8 alone is a bad metric, but the tournament has 7 pretty drat different decks represented. I meant from a fun deck perspective
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Time posted:I meant from a fun deck perspective Oh sorry this is modern
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ShaneB posted:Oh sorry this is modern i usually like modern regardless of what the format looks like, this one just doesnt have a deck i really like
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Time posted:i usually like modern regardless of what the format looks like, this one just doesnt have a deck i really like
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Time posted:Modern is worse now than it was pre horizons Oh by a mile. mehall posted:I *get* why, if WotC ban Opal, why they did it, but I disagree because the number of decks using it in a very fair way are huge. Nobody plays Mox Opal in a fair way. That's the point - the card is ridiculously, unprintably busted if your deck can turn it on, but then it forced deckbuilding constraints so you can play your five-color Mox. also gently caress Astrolabe
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Hellsau posted:Nobody plays Mox Opal in a fair way. That's the point - the card is ridiculously, unprintably busted if your deck can turn it on, but then it forced deckbuilding constraints so you can play your five-color Mox.
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There WILL be a MH2, I'd wager early 2021 at the latest. It was mentioned by name by suits at the last Hasbro earnings talks. It's not a great thing, but at least gives modern content creators something to work with.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:52
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ShaneB posted:There WILL be a MH2, I'd wager early 2021 at the latest. It was mentioned by name by suits at the last Hasbro earnings talks. It's not a great thing, but at least gives modern content creators something to work with.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:54
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Tubgoat posted:Cite sources please. This isn't trolling or disbelief, I'd like to know how you, an SA forums poster, are privvy to this. If it's publicly available and I just wasn't paying attention, that is fine too, I would just like a source. Thank you in advance. https://investor.hasbro.com/static-files/9d1b0ce1-ad58-435e-8e44-e61c56ecc06e quote:Behind a rich release slate and continued strength in digital gaming, MAGIC: THE GATHERING delivered an outstanding quarter and first half of the year. The War of the Spark set was extremely well received by players across formats, driving robust quarterly growth in tabletop and digital. Player engagement expanded, with global increases in total unique players and new players. This in turn drove an incremental increase in Magic: The Gathering Arena games played, with approximately 400 million played in the quarter and 1.1 billion since the game entered open beta in September of last year. corporate earnings calls are public info, they're not at all secret. the entire point is they're not. they are corporate execs basically trying to sell the stock market on what a good job they did.
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Tabletop revenues are any sales attributed to tournament entries through either major events or events at LGSs or sealed product at the same as well as big-box stores?
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Actually, I went 3-1 with Slivers at FNM this week, so this modern format is great.
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ShadeofBlue posted:Actually, I went 3-1 with Slivers at FNM this week, so this modern format is great.
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You can tell Ammy is a big brain deck this guy has two engineering degrees!!
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fadam posted:You can tell Ammy is a big brain deck this guy has two engineering degrees!!
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Tubgoat posted:Unironic lol. Engineers are idiots, by and large, it turns out. I know you were probably being ironic, but for folks who are lurking, this needs to be said. Thanks man EDIT: What's the deal with the Skyshround Ranger instead of Sakura Tribe Scout? Just dodges removal that cares about names? fadam fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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fadam posted:Thanks man I just loving hate their "This thing isn't even remotely math? This means math can solve it perfectly!" attitude and absolute certainty thereof.
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TheKingofSprings posted:27 actually!
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Yawgmoth posted:So much death... what can men do against such reckless hate?
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With my Mardu Pyromancer banned out, I'm going to play something like this at my next modern event; https://youtu.be/XTpqKVB3UWE Can't shake the feeling Martyr and especially Carrier Thrall aren't good enough but they definitely have used in the context. Also interested in running Asylum visitor, Falkenrath Condemned and big guys to cheat in like Blood Baron.
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BizarroAzrael posted:With my Mardu Pyromancer banned out, I'm going to play something like this at my next modern event; Goonspeed, but the last time I encountered Mardu Pyromancer, the loss of Faithless Looting didn't matter in the face of Stoneforge Mystic being unbanned. TheKingofSprings posted:Congrats on your day 2! What were your matchups? Any highlights? Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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When did this thread become tugboat every other post Anyway I made day 2 at this scg for the first time going 7-2 yesterday on Jund. Then I went 1-5 today to miss prizes. Rad. Proud to have made a day 2 but this was probably my most disappointing day of competitive magic ever.
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Lawnie posted:When did this thread become tugboat every other post Congrats on your day 2! What were your matchups? Any highlights?
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