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Sam is gonna go out and celebrate with a big kiss.
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https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/1183595131775131654?s=19 I dunno guys dvoa seems like a foolproof stat to me all of a sudden
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 05:09 |
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Spoeank posted:https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/1183595131775131654?s=19 From a neutral 3rd party perspective your defense looks really really good. The patriots have defeated hot garbage and super poo poo while y'all have actually beat some good teams. Although starting to think the Rams are going to go down the Falcons route of post superbowl seasons.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 05:19 |
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Weird how the supposed worst division ever has the 2 best teams in the AFC in it, and a 3rd smoked the Cowboys today. Guess we know where teams are truly forged in fire.
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Kalli posted:Weird how the supposed worst division ever has the 2 best teams in the AFC in it, and a 3rd smoked the Cowboys today.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 05:32 |
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Kalli posted:Weird how the supposed worst division ever has the 2 best teams in the AFC in it, and a 3rd smoked the Cowboys today. Do you _really_ think the bills are the 2nd best team in the AFC. Be honest.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 05:44 |
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adaz posted:Do you _really_ think the bills are the 2nd best team in the AFC. Be honest. Absolutely not, but at the same time the Bills are weirdly good as far as we know and I don't know what to think about them.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 05:48 |
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adaz posted:Do you _really_ think the bills are the 2nd best team in the AFC. Be honest. I was looking up beatpaths! so I could own you with truly advanced analytics, but I see it stopped updating in 2011 and I was immediately struck with how old I am,
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Spoeank posted:https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/1183595131775131654?s=19 I wish the 91 Eagles had an offense
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Kalli posted:I was looking up beatpaths! so I could own you with truly advanced analytics, but I see it stopped updating in 2011 and I was immediately struck with how old I am, Well advanced metrics (DVOA) has them at 19th which feels a bit low. dont google beatpaths is my pro tip Grittybeard posted:Absolutely not, but at the same time the Bills are weirdly good as far as we know and I don't know what to think about them. They have a good defense and a.. work in progress? offense. They might be the bears of the AFC. But their schedule is probably good enough to get them to 11 wins because lol
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:03 |
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The Bills may have a better defense then the Patriots, and a downright lovely offense. They can basically be the Bears from last season, but it's extremely funny and cool that they're currently 2nd in the AFC and their only loss is to the Patriots. And yeah, they're probably going to be like 8-3 at some point this year. The actual playoff standings apparently: AFC 1. Patriots 2. Texans 6. Raiders @ 3. Chiefs 5. Bills @ 4. Ravens NFC 1. 49ers 2. Saints 6. Vikings @ 3. Packers 5. Seahawks @ 4. Cowboys Wanna see that Bills - Ravens game. Kalli fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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DVOA has them at 3rd but I can see the argument - unlike the Patriots the Bills D usually has to carry games by its lonesome. Jsut realized that Bills / Cowboys turkey day game is looking a lot better now than it did at the start of the season.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:12 |
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adaz posted:DVOA has them at 3rd but I can see the argument - unlike the Patriots the Bills D usually has to carry games by its lonesome. I'm just adjusting with the eye test. Like the Patriots defense is comically stomping teams, but they're playing just plain bad offenses. Like yeah, they're making those offenses look nightmarishly bad, but the Bills are also putting up real good performances against the likes of the Patriots offense and the Jets with Darnold and a Titans O that is alive when facing the Falcons. I'm just saying we should put some respect on the Bills' D. Also lol, FO's playoff odds calculator puts the Patriots at over 40% to win the Superbowl after today's games and the Dolphins at 75% to get the #1 pick: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds Kalli fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Oct 14, 2019 |
# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:18 |
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The Bills are probably the 5th/6th best team in the AFC, but if the offense gets going they’ll rise
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:35 |
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adaz posted:Do you _really_ think the bills are the 2nd best team in the AFC. Be honest. At this point they seem just as likely to do anything of relevance in January/February as every other non-first best team in the conference, so yeah sure put whatever number you want beside them. 19-0 ain't getting Eli'd this time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-YfuVQmX8
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:38 |
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The Pats have mostly kicked around the NFL's soup cans to this point. I guess that probably has more to do with KC slipping up than anything.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:39 |
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New England is going to lose to one or two of the Ravens/Texans/Chiefs
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:40 |
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This is important because the collective chip on the patriots’ shoulder will be fueled by nobody believing in a 15-1 team
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 06:41 |
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the dolphins are gonna have to get past the bengals for the number one pick
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 07:49 |
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a patagonian cavy posted:the dolphins are gonna have to get past the bengals for the number one pick The Dolphins were able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against Washington, they should have no trouble losing to the Bengals.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 10:04 |
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Do NFL teams actively tank like they do in the NBA?
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 10:20 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Do NFL teams actively tank like they do in the NBA? It's harder in the NFL, since careers are shorter and there's so much less game tape to generate. Maybe the ownership/GM/coaching would rather lose, but there are a lot of soon to be free agents on those teams who know the cameras are watching.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 10:30 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Do NFL teams actively tank like they do in the NBA? They used not, but the browns introduced the concept to the NFL and showed it doesnt work anywhere as well as the NBA but teams are all doing it now for some reason
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sweet thursday posted:You know the Pats are the greatest champions of all time, I know it, and in their heart of hearts everyone here knows it Wrong, it’s the 46-56 Browns.
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This was a magical series for the Bucs https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/14/nfl-week-6-devlin-hodges-fmia-peter-king/?cid=rotoworld quote:Tampa could never have had a worse sequence of 10 offensive snaps—could they?—than in the final two minutes of the first half Sunday: strip-sack and fumble recovery; strip-sack and lost fumble; 15-yard completion to Evans; incompletion; Evans drops bomb from Winston; incompletion; false start; false start; false start; punt. Is there an adjective worse than brutal? If so, that’s what that 10-play stretch was. This led to the Panthers attempting a free kick field goal to end the half. oh and in a surprise to no one King is very much on the "talking to war criminals is cool and good" bandwagon quote:Finally, good for Ellen DeGeneres for talking to all people, not just those she knows she’ll agree with. We have gotten to a point where the simple act of DeGeneres sitting at a football game with former President Bush and smiling and having civil discourse is a mortal sin. That’s where we are. People who disagree should talk, not threaten and dog-cuss on social media. And of course I understand the past of Bush, and how DeGeneres should be angry about some of his past proclamations and decisions. But that doesn’t mean they can’t associate and even be casual friends. I was astonished to hear and read the debate about whether two people 180 degrees apart politically and socially should converse. OF COURSE THEY SHOULD! What are we teaching our children when we see someone with a different view on something important and we say, “Honey, we don’t talk to that person. That person disagrees with us, so when you see that person, don’t talk or be friendly in any way. You will never talk to that person.” FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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FizFashizzle posted:This was a magical series for the Bucs Now this is either a mistaken URL paste or a joke about the Bucs that goes over even my head
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 15:43 |
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Alaois posted:Now this is either a mistaken URL paste or a joke about the Bucs that goes over even my head oh yeah oops. don't post in lecture
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 15:48 |
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https://twitter.com/Keenan13Allen/status/1183752686383984640?s=19 Seems bad.
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With the WSH win, it is no longer possible for two teams to go 0-16 in the same year. MIA plays CIN in Week 16. gently caress.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 15:50 |
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I love that teams really have to try for tanking cause so many teams want to do it lol. Normal rear end league.
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seiferguy posted:I love that teams really have to try for tanking cause so many teams want to do it lol. Normal rear end league. Probably time to do away with draft order imo and just make it a pure lottery. Maybe do some minor weights for the worst teams but actively encourage teams to be bad is problematic for a competive sports league. Also, as the browns are currently proving, high draft order + picks != success!
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 16:00 |
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adaz posted:Probably time to do away with draft order imo and just make it a pure lottery. Maybe do some minor weights for the worst teams but actively encourage teams to be bad is problematic for a competive sports league. Also, as the browns are currently proving, high draft order + picks != success! The best proposal I’ve seen for draft ordering is to give teams points towards the higher picks for wins after they’ve been mathematically eliminated. So if you go 0-10 and can’t make the playoffs by week 11, winning your next six and finishing strong gives you the best possible draft position.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 16:04 |
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adaz posted:Probably time to do away with draft order imo and just make it a pure lottery. Maybe do some minor weights for the worst teams but actively encourage teams to be bad is problematic for a competive sports league. Also, as the browns are currently proving, high draft order + picks != success! Imagine the last two decades with New England randomly getting top picks.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 16:11 |
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So many more first round Rutgers WR and CB busts
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 16:15 |
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Imagine watching NFL officiating then saying the NFL should have a draft lottery.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 16:17 |
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Have teams draft the refs.
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adaz posted:Probably time to do away with draft order imo and just make it a pure lottery. Maybe do some minor weights for the worst teams but actively encourage teams to be bad is problematic for a competive sports league. Also, as the browns are currently proving, high draft order + picks != success! Not gonna lie, I think this problem will be self resolving when the dolphins, Browns, and Washington continue to be miserable bad.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Imagine the last two decades with New England randomly getting top picks. Would it really matter? Teams like the Packers, Seahawks, Patriots, & Steelers consistently pick towards the very bottom and are good year over year. Other teams pick near the top and are bad year over year. The science, such as it is, seems to indicate its better to have more draft picks rather than higher draft picks. The exception to this is QBs and the desperate need for them would lead to more hilarious mitchell trubisky esque trades. Zoran posted:The best proposal Ive seen for draft ordering is to give teams points towards the higher picks for wins after theyve been mathematically eliminated. So if you go 0-10 and cant make the playoffs by week 11, winning your next six and finishing strong gives you the best possible draft position. Eh, that just discourages end season tanking? I want to get rid of it completely. The point of the draft was supposedy to help balance competitive advantage among teams. Unfortunately we're seeing that for some teams that just doesn't matter (i.e. browns) and for others its encouraging them to just be really bad intentionally which further excaberates the problem.
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# ? Oct 14, 2019 16:31 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Do NFL teams actively tank like they do in the NBA? I'd say no because it's too hard to come out the other end with a decent amount of good players. There's no minor league to stash guys in; and with individual player usage being a smaller portion of the whole compared to the nba, and needing more players to fill out a team you can't just grab the nfl's version of lebron or zion and suddenly expect to be good. Which is why everyone's saying that if miami wins the tua sweepstakes they're still going to be hosed until probably the end of his rookie deal. Maybe teams suck on purpose by not doing every single move to compete in the short-term, but I think that's different from tanking. Like, would it matter to miami if they signed... michael crabtree? dj swearinger? It's not really useful to make those short-term bets when you absolutely know it's not going to result in a meaningful push for the team, same reason why they don't fire head coaches immediately after 0-3 starts or whatever.
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Tiny Tubesteak Tom posted:With the WSH win, it is no longer possible for two teams to go 0-16 in the same year. MIA plays CIN in Week 16. gently caress. 0-15-1 for both teams in the most egregious display of match-fixing ever to be seen in the NFL. Give the tanking conspiracy nerds the off-season talking point they really want.
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