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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Why the gently caress have they not be removed before now? Rick Perry is in charge of it. Rick loving Perry is in charge of this
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joat mon posted:In case you haven't met your RDA for WTF for today: Very separate church and state
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Schiff kicked Gaetz out of the Fiona Hill deposition. Gaetz tried to crash it, Schiff kicked him out because he's not on any of the three committees holding it, Gaetz then whined to the parliamentarian who sided with Schiff.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Why the gently caress have they not be removed before now? Remember how we got all upset during the Cuban missile crisis? Turkey is to the Soviet Union what the Caribbean is to us.
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She the one with a pipe-dream cure-all medical startup built on a house of cards? I feel like there was a Netflix docu on her
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the author is a dumb enough that i genuinely was worried he can't function in life, but someone in another thread pointed out he lives in the same building as Holmes' parents, so i nominate him for some private tutoring with madame guillotine
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Doc Hawkins posted:the author is a dumb enough that i genuinely was worried he can't function in life, but someone in another thread pointed out he lives in the same building as Holmes' parents, so i nominate him for some private tutoring with madame guillotine I mean people should be allowed to become visionaries, but they just shouldn't be allowed to collect investment money on it with overoptimistic promises. Although not all her tests were physically possible, some of them could have been 10-20 years away. It's also that her Entrepreneurship 101 pitches with fast development timelines and skyrocketing revenue projections somehow fooled very established investors (who granted were no within their area of expertise).
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Yeah that Holmes documentary just put on display the lies upon lies upon lies and the blind urgency of people who should've known better to believe it.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:08
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Holmes is confirmed as one of the major con artists of the early 21st century.
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Scamming billionaires out of their money is cool and good but yeah much better to go the Moviepass route and 1) spread the loot around as widely as possible and 2) get away with it shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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Oct 14, 2019 20:13
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TLDR but what I did read was some thirsty capitalist type doing the thirsty capitalist equivalent of sliding into her DMs by way of an editorial.
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EBB posted:Holmes is confirmed as one of the major con artists of the early 21st century. You say this in a world where Donald Trump got elected president.
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People who absolutely did know better but threw that better judgment out of the window on the slim chance of scoring some Steve Jobs cosplayer strange.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAthat loving theranos article posted:Among many other people, just Google my name and “Michael Milken” or “Frank Quattrone," two individuals whom I view as heroic capitalists,
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The weird thing about Theranos to me is that for people to fully buy into it, they have to look at the existing market and decide that none of the major major diagnostic companies are trying to do what she wants to do. Which is a loving crazy thought to have. Like most major tests can already be run on as little as 5 uL of blood and results can be back in an hour or less. It's crazy to think that the market is just gonna be happy and not try to innovate further. Or people putting money into it dont get why nurses do full draws when tests are ordered. Its willful ignorance at best.
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The myth of the disruptor is strong. It plays on the smart people galaxy, the common “I’m an engineer / doctor, I’m very good at my field of expertise, and that smartness applies everywhere.” Also works on rich people. Basically, this XKCD comic, except someone goes “sure, give me money!” instead of “gently caress off!”  The con artists will then reinforce that by going “oh we’re too disruptive for them!” Or “first they say you’re crazy, then they fight you, then you win.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfaJZAdfNE (It’s at 1:40)
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Also, don’t underestimate just how many old (and nearly all white) men can be duped into believing a charismatic and striking young woman. Especially one who adopts the look of other visionaries.
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Thwomp posted:Also, don’t underestimate just how many old (and nearly all white) men can be duped into believing a charismatic and striking young woman. Especially one who adopts the look of other visionaries. Case in point: Tulsi Gabbard Also since Turkey has literally invaded Syria when will we see a counterattack? Will be interesting to see how whether Russia favors their naval base or the S-400 sale, or if the S-400 was even delivered Suicide Watch fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 14, 2019 |
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I remember the 1st big slap that Theranos got from USDA along with some known HIPAA violations I think. Their response was the general "move fast break things / we're being disruptive these regulations are too stifling" kind of approach. This was a year or two before the wheels came off but I remember reading the initial news of the complaint and Theranos's PR statement on it and thinking "oh man they are going to be so so hammered if they don't unfuck themselves ASAP". I deal with HIPPA, biosafety, HIPAA, IRB / IBC poo poo for a living and they don't gently caress around once you get on their radar. E: It was obvious that if there were any professionals on the biology side over there that they were so far down the corporate ladder that they never had a chance to actually make a difference in anything. Anyone trained in that area who was part of management would have known that you can't blow off that poo poo like they did.
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I pretty much distrust anyone who says their big utopian solution is right around the corner.
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HBO made the documentary, The Inventor, there was also a book by the guy who first wrote an article calling out Theranos on their bullshit, Bad Blood. They're both pretty good, also the book is being made in to a movie by the same director who made Vice and The Big Short. I really liked those films and I think the Theranos story would work really well with his directing style. Edit: That Works posted:E: It was obvious that if there were any professionals on the biology side over there that they were so far down the corporate ladder that they never had a chance to actually make a difference in anything. Anyone trained in that area who was part of management would have known that you can't blow off that poo poo like they did. There was one guy fairly high up that was hand picked early on, very respected in his field and I think a professor. He did just that, tried to make them realise the mistakes they were making and to just confess the tech didn't actually work and just start over. He was bullied, forced out and had his name dragged through the mud to such an extent that he ended up killing himself 
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Churchill posted:HBO made the documentary, The Inventor, there was also a book by the guy who first wrote an article calling out Theranos on their bullshit, Bad Blood. They're both pretty good, also the book is being made in to a movie by the same director who made Vice and The Big Short. I really liked those films and I think the Theranos story would work really well with his directing style. I like that director as well, I'd definitely check that out. I've kinda avoided the documentary poo poo about all of it because I constantly have to deal with people doing bad science poo poo to the extent that I now teach a class on Pseudoscience so it kinda almost seemed like work to watch it. Heard it was good though. One day I'll give it a ago. loving  about the professor. gently caress those people.
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That Works posted:I like that director as well, I'd definitely check that out. ABC News did a podcast on the whole thing. It was a brutal takedown of the whole company top to bottom and it’s investors. Especially brutal towards Sonny whatever his name is and Elizabeth.
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It appears that Pompeo's blockade didn't work. https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1183873835969470466 Whatever Kurds are left, their savior is going to have to be Mike Pence. RIP. https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1183869569091489792 And Bad Blood is an extremely good read. The whole thing was based on lies and sales pitches, which is cool and all, gently caress it, eat up venture capital IDGAF. Then Holmes crossed the line of actually testing people and trying to get the poo poo into Walgreens aaaaand nope, gently caress you, enjoy prison.
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"So you Kurds won't accept White Jesus into your hearts? I guess you're going to die then." -Pence
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I don't even know what the gently caress reality is anymore. https://www.newsweek.com/gop-liz-cheney-fox-news-turkey-invaded-syria-because-democrats-impeachment-inquiry-trump-1465003 quote:"I also want to say that the impeachment proceedings that are going on and what the Democrats are doing themselves to try to weaken this president is part of this," Cheney, who represents Wyoming and is the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, argued.
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McNally posted:I don't even know what the gently caress reality is anymore. I'm not drunk enough for this article
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 THE TURKS ARE ROLLING ACROSS THE BORDER BECAUSE TRUMP GAVE THEM PERMISSION
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Shut the gently caress up Dick Cheney.
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FrozenVent posted:
I want to read the alt history where Trump handles the Suez crisis.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Shut the gently caress up Dick Cheney. It's worse, it's his hellspawn child who is currently Wyoming's rep to Congress. If you listen to or read her statements you can tell she's a completely wretched person.
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Well Liz, you do you and I'll do me. By which I mean I'm going to celebrate when your piece of poo poo mass murdering dad finally dies.
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FrozenVent posted:
Just heard on NPR that Kurds are throwing their lot in with Assad, deal struck with him. Edit: Here's CNN on it: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/middleeast/syria-turkey-kurds-civilians-isis-intl-hnk/index.html
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hobbesmaster posted:I want to read the alt history where Trump handles the Suez crisis. You mean the מצב תעלת סואץ.
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Don’t forget Mattis was on the board for Theranos as well, and Theranos had a flag in their office that they claimed had flown in Afghanistan (it hadn’t) Also they did fraudulent STD testing on people with falsified results Also also Liz Cheney totally sold out her lesbian sister to score political points
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