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no mate everything since you've been gone has been thoroughly unimportant, good job you're back really.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:no mate everything since you've been gone has been thoroughly unimportant, good job you're back really. that's a little hostile for a snipe anyway, yeah, crisps, seeing as it's 2am and I might get away with it: Regarding crispchat. I have no max strong opinions; there's so many ones-to-munch that I enjoy, and hearing everyone pipers up with their personal selections lifts my spirits like a banging choon in a disco. I know there's people who'd say just skips those posts, but there's a cultural hisdori-to be considered - it's one of the ways we as individual walkers of the forums strengthen our social bonds. One thing I enjoy is there's a skill to these debates - some posters are excellent at arguing for their choice; I think it would be sad to silence their voices, to nix knacks that could also be applied to other forms of debate. We generally have fun - everyone here enjoys a good rib, and saucy conversation seems suited to that peculiarly UK style of messing about; there never seems to be any genuine beef, it just gets nice and spicy and that scampi a lot of fun for a lot of folks. We're posters - in a way we're all word smiths, right? Honestly, it feels a lot like the people with the biggest issues are almost always "outsiders", space raiders, people who show up full of salt 'n' shake with rage because we're happy - to my mind these posts are excellent, even golden; wonder why that upsets them? Wotsit all about that drives them into such a rage they need to take an asprin, galls them, makes them burts with anger, turns them into such uncool squares? I guess I can see how this might foster feelings of exclusion, so we should be aware of this. Maybe they're not normally like this, but there's something about snackchat that frazzles them, and they transform - a snack debate just triggers something, the reader quavers, then finally snaps. Sorry for the effortpost, and for probably caring about this too much, but we all have our cheese moments. I guess it's understandable why it might get on folks' nerves - I just hope people can understand it's all in fun, and that one day they'll twig - let's hope that day is soon. Snackchat haters, there's tudors you can go through. One leads to hell - a' pay no mind to that, there's nothing good going on there. The other leads to a lively, amusing debate, a land of fun and sun - bites if you can't make it there with us, but I trhula hope you do.
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IrvingWashington posted:that's a little hostile for a snipe 
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Oct 18, 2019 02:08
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1184933943906312192 LAB would need to first whip against for the deal to be guaranteed to fail, there are too many MPs who are either in Leave areas or would back a referendum toy in their happy deal taking withdrawing the whip off the table does work both ways here, perhaps
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Oct 18, 2019 03:24
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The whole internet hates Milkshake Goose, an rear end in a top hat of a goose that steals milkshakes. *5 seconds later* ... we have to inform you the goose used the milkshake to ruin a fascist's suit.
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Oct 18, 2019 03:36
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IrvingWashington posted:that's a little hostile for a snipe I don't care how much reprogramming of the boards it takes, this has to be next month's thread title.
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Oct 18, 2019 03:38
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ronya posted:LAB Normal people just say 'Labour' you know
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Ms Adequate posted:I don't care how much reprogramming of the boards it takes, this has to be next month's thread title. 
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Oct 18, 2019 03:52
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feedmegin posted:Normal people just say 'Labour' you know It's a fun code, like on the stock market. Also I occasionally forget or don't notice that I'm reading a ronya post and seeing LAB reminds me what frame of reference I should be using
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Oct 18, 2019 04:02
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I just want Brexit to not happen  Does that make me crazy? That make me crazy? That make me crazy? Probably.
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Oct 18, 2019 04:47
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So somehow Boris Johnson is close to being able to get the deal passed? It sounds like the margins are going to be tight. Is there nothing in the deal to justify an MP in a “Leave” district voting against the deal? It sounds like the “People versus Parliament” pitch has been effective.
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Oct 18, 2019 04:50
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ronya posted:LAB would need to first whip against for the deal to be guaranteed to fail, there are too many MPs who are either in Leave areas or would back a referendum toy in their happy deal Absolutely nobody thinks Labour won't be running a three line whip against this deal, regardless of any amendments that might be passed.
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jabby posted:Absolutely nobody thinks Labour won't be running a three line whip against this deal, regardless of any amendments that might be passed. whipping is a poor way to corral naughty backbenchers if you pledge upfront that defying the whip will have no consequences, and Johnson only needs a few LAB backbenchers even for an unamended deal e: okay, not just a few - about thirty. Amending the bill does move LDEM and SNP over the fence but would shed CON votes immediately. No idea how it would shake out ronya fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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ronya posted:whipping is a poor way to corral naughty backbenchers if you pledge upfront that defying the whip will have no consequences, and Johnson only needs a few LAB backbenchers even for an unamended deal That's literally my entire point, I think it's a huge mistake to promise no consequences on a vote of this monumental importance. I have no idea what your original post about it 'working both ways' was meant to mean.
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Oct 18, 2019 06:16
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ronya posted:whipping is a poor way to corral naughty backbenchers if you pledge upfront that defying the whip will have no consequences, and Johnson only needs a few LAB backbenchers even for an unamended deal The whole Brexit debacle since the Tories decided they'd be the ones to do it has been the tension between the extreme wing headed up by JRM and threatened from outside the party on the right flank by Farage, the wets who either oppose Brexit entirely or can live with it as long as it's a soft (and thus economically non-suicidal) one, and amplified since 2017 the particular and peculiar ambitions/requirements of the DUP, though the NI issue was always going to be a hugely sticky one regardless of the DUP giving confidence and supply. It's... possible that these tensions have been overcome by Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, but I'd not put money on that.
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Oct 18, 2019 06:23
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IrvingWashington posted:anyway, yeah, crisps, seeing as it's 2am and I might get away with it: You goddam beautiful bastard 
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Oct 18, 2019 06:27
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feedmegin posted:Normal people just say 'Labour' you know Ronya is using fewer characters than necessary and you're complaining?
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Oct 18, 2019 07:07
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Ukmt discord link in first post has expired. Anyone got a fresh one?
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Oct 18, 2019 07:39
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jabby posted:That's literally my entire point, I think it's a huge mistake to promise no consequences on a vote of this monumental importance. I have no idea what your original post about it 'working both ways' was meant to mean. if one pledges not to punish backbenchers if they rebel against a hypothetical whip to back an amendment, it's tricky to punish backbenchers if they rebel against a hypothetical whip not to back an amendment, or not to back an amended deal, or even an unamended deal this also does mean that whipping is an electoral gesture, in the main. This might be the actual plan. A number of Corbyn campaigners credit whipping to invoke A50 as a boon on the Labour doorstep in 2017, at least in marginal or leave areas let's see what relevant folks announce they will do today, I suppose
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Oct 18, 2019 07:49
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https://twitter.com/GloriaDePiero/status/1185080114083745792?s=19
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RockyB posted:Apropos of nothing did you know that there's a massively under-reported cirrhosis/fibrosis epidemic among millennials, the true impact of which will likely not make itself fully known for another 15-30 years? They estimate that with the obesity crisis and NAFLD about 1 in 4 people in that age range are now affected, me included. That's why I try for two 3+ month periods of sobriety a year these days. Braggart posted:Ukmt discord link in first post has expired. Anyone got a fresh one? (I don't have a link though, sorry. I think you have to slaughter a lamb at midnight to get one or something.)
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Oct 18, 2019 07:54
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Braggart posted:Ukmt discord link in first post has expired. Anyone got a fresh one? try this one https://discord.gg/5t3FAu
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Oct 18, 2019 07:59
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endlessmonotony posted:The whole internet hates Milkshake Goose, an rear end in a top hat of a goose that steals milkshakes. lol
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Oct 18, 2019 08:07
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Brony Car posted:So somehow Boris Johnson is close to being able to get the deal passed? It sounds like the margins are going to be tight. Is there nothing in the deal to justify an MP in a “Leave” district voting against the deal? There's rather a lot in this deal that any MP could object to if they'd want to. It's pretty much just ~hard brexit~ with a transition period first and some special rules for NI, there's nothing in it that matches Labour's stated brexit priorities
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Oct 18, 2019 08:20
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 well now we know what david cameron calls his penis
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Oct 18, 2019 08:22
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RockyB posted:JD is definitely trash tier. Oh for sure. I would never claim it was an actually nice drink. RockyB posted:Apropos of nothing did you know that there's a massively under-reported cirrhosis/fibrosis epidemic among millennials, the true impact of which will likely not make itself fully known for another 15-30 years? They estimate that with the obesity crisis and NAFLD about 1 in 4 people in that age range are now affected, me included. That's why I try for two 3+ month periods of sobriety a year these days. drat that's bleak. I don't drink all that often but I definitely overdo it when I do. The doc loving up my repeat citalopram prescription probably won't help my desire to drink myself into a stupor this month either.
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Oct 18, 2019 08:25
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CGI Stardust posted:try this one Cheers 
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Beefeater1980 posted:I just want Brexit to not happen don't be ridiculous, labour can't possibly run on remain sexpig by night posted:Aren't these also the people saying to turn yourself into the cops don't we want comrades to turn into the cops?
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Oct 18, 2019 08:30
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A hellish few nights on a hospital ward with people around me dying of liver and kidney related stuff was a decent motivator to start watching my drinking He said to himself While tucking a cheeky beer into his workbag
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:There's rather a lot in this deal that any MP could object to if they'd want to. It's pretty much just ~hard brexit~ with a transition period first and some special rules for NI, there's nothing in it that matches Labour's stated brexit priorities The deal is the May Withdrawal Agreement except worse from a Brexit Ultra POV because it splits NI from the rest of the UK. However, the Brexit Ultras that are in favour of this deal realize that if this deal falls through, the odds of Brexit happening at all drop considerably (while the odds of No Deal Brexit also increase somewhat). And they would presumably be happy to keep BoJo at the helm negotiating the future relationship with the EU.
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Oct 18, 2019 08:47
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Oh hey it's Diwali soon, and you know what that means? The triumph of light over darkness? The casting, and casting out, of shadow? Sky full of fireworks, mouth full of sweets? People who aren't Jewish accusing people who aren't Hindu of antisemitism over trying to be inclusive?  
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Oct 18, 2019 09:06
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mediaphage posted:In re bourbon chat, this is my current favourite: Yeah Noahs Mill is nice, problem is it's stupid expensive and hard to find. I really like the Weller wheated bourbons, but again those are hard to find and often expensive. Rittenhouse Rye is lovely too, and sometimes reasonable on Amazon. My go-to supermarket bourbon is Woodford Reserve, it's frequently available at a reduced price. Makes a great Old Fashioned.
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DesperateDan posted:A hellish few nights on a hospital ward with people around me dying of liver and kidney related stuff was a decent motivator to start watching my drinking It looks like a very poo poo way to go. I've become a fan of alcohol free weissbier. Doesn't help with the pain of existence tho
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So this closes the Benn amendment loophole https://twitter.com/MarkerJParker/status/1185098502440996865?s=19
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Guavanaut posted:Oh hey it's Diwali soon, and you know what that means? Any reason to believe this wasn't done for the sake of causing controversy to spread the name of the place?
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Oct 18, 2019 09:16
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Labour leavers are going to absolutely gently caress this. If Coebyn doesn’t three line whip it, he’s going to be absolutely hosed too.
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Britain is a Stasi state tho?  Like when you're sharing intelligence that amounts to rumor, not evidence, with databases that lack organization and organizations that lack oversight, that's far from ideal, and that has progressed a lot under The Saj. Iran's probably bad too, but they lack the ability to do anything immediate to me other than stockpiling instant ice packs so that the shops are always run out. knox_harrington posted:It looks like a very poo poo way to go. I've become a fan of alcohol free weissbier. Doesn't help with the pain of existence tho Eschenique posted:Any reason to believe this wasn't done for the sake of causing controversy to spread the name of the place? 
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