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Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Jerk McJerkface posted:

I heard an expression that the two happiest days in a man's life are when he buys and then sells his boat.

I saw a neighbor outside washing his boat, and I jokingly said that to him. He looked at me like I was an idiot and he was "I've never heard that before". I just sort of walked away.

'If it flies, floats or fucks: rent it.'

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SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Shut up Meg posted:

'If it flies, floats or fucks: rent it.'

Buying ducks: extremely bwm

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Jerk McJerkface posted:

I heard an expression that the two happiest days in a man's life are when he buys and then sells his boat.

I saw a neighbor outside washing his boat, and I jokingly said that to him. He looked at me like I was an idiot and he was "I've never heard that before". I just sort of walked away.

Either he was putting you on or he is very stupid, deaf, has no friends, or a combination of the three.

potee
Jul 23, 2007

Or, you know.

Not fine.

SpartanIvy posted:

Buying ducks: extremely bwm

VC pitch: it's like Uber, but for ducks

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

potee posted:

VC pitch: it's like Uber, but for ducks

In that you will probably get sexually assaulted by one

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Jerk McJerkface posted:

I heard an expression that the two happiest days in a man's life are when he buys and then sells his boat.

I saw a neighbor outside washing his boat, and I jokingly said that to him. He looked at me like I was an idiot and he was "I've never heard that before". I just sort of walked away.

You know what boat stands for:

Bust
Out
Another
Thousand

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



According to the people I've met with (larger) boats, you have to factor in 10% of the purchase price per year in terms of maintenance, crew, etc. I mean, I knew a $12 million Swan was out of my league by around $12 million, but it's crazy to realize that even if someone gave me the boat, I'd have no way of running it for even a year.

GWM: I met a couple where one is the captain and the other is the chef/steward, but they don't have to pay income tax as they're living on the boat full time (they're not American). On top of that, all their expenses are paid for, so you have people making six figures, no income tax, no expenses. Downside is you live on a boat almost the entire year.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
A yacht captain and chief stew making six figures? That seems... high. All the yacht jobs I’ve been offered paid absolute poo poo (and it was like 11 months a year, wherea cargo boats were six months a year)

Boats are loving money pits that you barely ever get to enjoy.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Why does the chef have to make so much stew on the yachts?

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

MomJeans420 posted:

According to the people I've met with (larger) boats, you have to factor in 10% of the purchase price per year in terms of maintenance, crew, etc. I mean, I knew a $12 million Swan was out of my league by around $12 million, but it's crazy to realize that even if someone gave me the boat, I'd have no way of running it for even a year.

GWM: I met a couple where one is the captain and the other is the chef/steward, but they don't have to pay income tax as they're living on the boat full time (they're not American). On top of that, all their expenses are paid for, so you have people making six figures, no income tax, no expenses. Downside is you live on a boat almost the entire year.

There was a Goon who wanted to live year-round on a boat, so he posted asking about it, and a bunch of other Goons were like, "I live/d on a boat, don't live on a boat," and the Goon was like, "I'm only 25, and I don't want to miss the chance to live on a boat while I'm still young," and the boat Goons were like, "I lived on a boat when I was young, and it aged me prematurely, cost me hair, gave me three types of cancer and bankrupted me," and the first Goon was all, "Yeah, I think I'm gonna live on a boat."

It was a good thread.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

There was a Goon who wanted to live year-round on a boat, so he posted asking about it, and a bunch of other Goons were like, "I live/d on a boat, don't live on a boat," and the Goon was like, "I'm only 25, and I don't want to miss the chance to live on a boat while I'm still young," and the boat Goons were like, "I lived on a boat when I was young, and it aged me prematurely, cost me hair, gave me three types of cancer and bankrupted me," and the first Goon was all, "Yeah, I think I'm gonna live on a boat."

It was a good thread.

If I recall, he was in a cold place where it meant the boat would be inhabitable for 3 months of the year due to the extreme cold of the water and he still didn't think it would be an issue.

They even tried to warn him off by pointing out that he'd never get laid on a boat (no date would want to wear 3 sweaters and poo poo in a bucket on a first date)

Hoshi
Jan 20, 2013

:wrongcity:
I feel like this is about the Minnesota houseboat goon?

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

Shut up Meg posted:

(no date would want to wear 3 sweaters and poo poo in a bucket on a first date)

hey come on man don't kink shame

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Shut up Meg posted:

They even tried to warn him off by pointing out that he'd never get laid on a boat (no date would want to wear 3 sweaters and poo poo in a bucket on a first date)

Not for free anyway.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

DaveSauce posted:

hey come on man don't kink shame

On a first date?

That's gotta be a third date thing, surely?

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Shut up Meg posted:

They even tried to warn him off by pointing out that he'd never get laid on a boat (no date would want to wear 3 sweaters and poo poo in a bucket on a first date)

Yeah, but they won’t say no, because of... the implication

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



FrozenVent posted:

A yacht captain and chief stew making six figures? That seems... high.

I don't have anything to compare with, other than talking to the boat owner's long time lawyer, but apparently the captain was well over $100k/year and his wife around $50k. It's a 90ft sailboat boat that gets raced too, so that may have something to do with it. The race crew who come on during a race are ~$3k/person/day, plus room and board, but I don't believe they spend more than a few weeks a year racing.

From what I've seen, racing rare supercars would be 10x more GWM than owning a large boat.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Yeah a racing captain would make 100k, regular motor yacht is more like 70k at best.

For reference, cargo / tanker ship captain from a first world nation would be roughly 150-200k / year.

Working on yachts: bad with money, bad with life.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Someone post the horse boat again, thanks.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat
My old boss used to opine that he wanted to by a boat that could comfortably sleep his family of 5 (three teenage boys and wife) so he could use it for vacations to save money instead of buying airfare and hotels when they travel.

I realized it was a disagreement that I couldn't win, so I just nodded and said "sure, sounds like a reasonable idea."

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

spwrozek posted:

You know what boat stands for:

Bust
Out
Another
Thousand

Just like Jeep stands for

Just
Empty
Every
Pocket

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
On boat chat:

My wife's coworker and her husband? The ones that bought that 24 foot yamaha jet boat and new F150 to tow it? Turns out it's a giant PITA to not have your boat in a marina/on the water constantly, so they only used it twice this year. We were on it once. :ohdear:

Shut up Meg posted:

'If it flies, floats or fucks: rent it.'

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
Wiped.

Sundae fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jun 22, 2021

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Residency Evil posted:

On boat chat:

My wife's coworker and her husband? The ones that bought that 24 foot yamaha jet boat and new F150 to tow it? Turns out it's a giant PITA to not have your boat in a marina/on the water constantly, so they only used it twice this year. We were on it once. :ohdear:

It's almost affordable to do out of a marina. It's ridiculously expensive (above the monthly slip rent) to actually keep it in a marina. Unless you own property with waterfront and your own dock you have almost no chance of using a boat of any reasonable size. I got rid of my 18' bay boat (or was it a 20 or 22? I have no idea at this point) that lived on a trailer in my barn and have enjoyed the gently caress out of my 8' basically row boat with a 4 HP Yamaha outboard on it. It's plenty to fish off of in the river, and I still wouldn't actually use it unless I could keep it on the shore/in the water at my friend's place (again, back to have water frontage if you expect to use your boat). I'm considering downgrading to a fishing kayak for even more enjoyment now that I live further from where I can keep it. Something I can throw on a roof rack and carry down to anyplace sounds about right.

This is all a tale as old as time I'm sure. There are few ways to be a passive boat owner. It's your one thing or it turns out just like that (also see: plane ownership)

Motronic fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Oct 18, 2019

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

Residency Evil posted:

On boat chat:

My wife's coworker and her husband? The ones that bought that 24 foot yamaha jet boat and new F150 to tow it? Turns out it's a giant PITA to not have your boat in a marina/on the water constantly, so they only used it twice this year. We were on it once. :ohdear:
My neighbors have an 18' pontoon that they use twice a year. They tried to park it on the field behind their house and the little old lady that owns the field sent over her goons to make them move it. I find it kinda funny that the 80-year old tobacco farming old lady has goons to go harass people on her behalf. She has a flock of turkeys and a bunch of deer on her property, and lets her grandson's friends hunt them if they'll show up and harass people for her.

Free goons = GWM, I guess?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Dik Hz posted:

I find it kinda funny that the 80-year old tobacco farming old lady has goons to go harass people on her behalf. She has a flock of turkeys and a bunch of deer on her property, and lets her grandson's friends hunt them if they'll show up and harass people for her.

Don't mess with Nanna Kickass.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

MomJeans420 posted:

GWM: I met a couple where one is the captain and the other is the chef/steward, but they don't have to pay income tax as they're living on the boat full time (they're not American). On top of that, all their expenses are paid for, so you have people making six figures, no income tax, no expenses. Downside is you live on a boat almost the entire year.

did either of them look like any of these people

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

did either of them look like any of these people


How is this not a porn show

Dr. Eldarion
Mar 21, 2001

Deal Dispatcher

Elephanthead posted:

Someone post the horse boat again, thanks.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

SpartanIvy posted:

Buying ducks: extremely bwm

This killed.

Maybe partly because my neighbors have ducks which seem to serve no purpose.

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

SpartanIvy posted:

Buying ducks: extremely bwm
yup. My parents bought ducks. Every predator in the world eats ducks. Weasels, foxes, coyotes, possums, raccoons, wolves, hawks. You name it, they will eat your ducks.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Hoshi posted:

I feel like this is about the Minnesota houseboat goon?

Probably.

Guess what? Goons in that thread were wrong.
You can live on a houseboat year round in Minnesota. An old roommate of mine does. His boat "freezes in" in the winter. Some run air bubblers around their boats to keep ice from forming. Others get hauled out and spend the winter on the hard.

It doesn't sound pleasant though. It's cold as gently caress and you need to get the boat shrinkwrapped. That's what trapped in the carbon monoxide that nearly killed him and put him in the hospital for a few days. Oh, and at his marina, you'll probably need waders to get from your car to boat during the spring.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
bro nobody told him it was impossible just that it was a stupid loving idea

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

MisterOblivious posted:

You can live on a houseboat year round in Minnesota.

That's what trapped in the carbon monoxide that nearly killed him and put him in the hospital for a few days.

The boat seems to disagree with you.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nW5g8tjazg

Warning: gross stuff. Don't be eating whilst watching.

Seriously.

Boat Life.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

MisterOblivious posted:

Probably.

Guess what? Goons in that thread were wrong.
You can live on a houseboat year round in Minnesota. An old roommate of mine does. His boat "freezes in" in the winter. Some run air bubblers around their boats to keep ice from forming. Others get hauled out and spend the winter on the hard.

It doesn't sound pleasant though. It's cold as gently caress and you need to get the boat shrinkwrapped. That's what trapped in the carbon monoxide that nearly killed him and put him in the hospital for a few days. Oh, and at his marina, you'll probably need waders to get from your car to boat during the spring.

That’s pretty much exactly what we told him would happen.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
The houseboat thread:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748155

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibP5IQxId34

This documentary is the only boat instance that is both GWM and GWL.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Also remember he was going to keep a dog on the boat while he was at work.

During the winter he'd have to heat the boat all day and night to keep his dog alive and a restless canine with a space heater on a boat that's about 90% wrapped for the winter sounds fantastic and not a cautionary tale to be told around camp fires.

Giraffe
Dec 12, 2005

Soiled Meat

Krispy Wafer posted:

Also remember he was going to keep a dog on the boat while he was at work.

During the winter he'd have to heat the boat all day and night to keep his dog alive and a restless canine with a space heater on a boat that's about 90% wrapped for the winter sounds fantastic and not a cautionary tale to be told around camp fires.

Oh man, I'd forgotten all about that thread. My favorite part was where he got himself kicked out of his apartment playing amateur contract lawyer.

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MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



My favorite quotes from the houseboat OP

quote:

The girlfriend will come around once she see's how cool the boat will be, that I'm not worried about. The bank is a bigger issue since I need some sort of financing to get this boat and start sleeping onboard the SS Savings. I guess I could take out a personal loan even at %7 and then just use my yearly bonus and tax return to pay that down more come this March. I'm in the process of contacting boat oriented loan companies, hopefully something good will come up through them.

quote:

Second update, I've been on a month to month lease for a while now. Finally my buildings management company gave me a form that basically said resign a year lease or pay $150 extra a month to stay month to month. That seemed completely unreasonable to me. I need a few months still to get a boat and need all the money I can get. So I took their form, scanned it, and changed it to only be $10 a month more, then signed it and handed it back. I got a VERY angry sounding voicemail from the building manager and have a meeting with them later this afternoon. I could be out a place all of the sudden and really need to find something quick. Hopefully I can get any type of house boat on an interim basis until I can secure a permanent one.

quote:

They didnt have it singed or anything like that. It was just a form letter with my apartment number filled in and date to respond by. So I just took it and changed the amount, not fraudulent at all. If I'm expected to read every long winded legal agreement they send out they should have to read everything too.

quote:

Whew I need to calm down a bit. I'm flying high right now. Basically HE DIDNT READ MY FORM and turned it in to the management company! Hahahaha I'm still getting a chuckle out of this. So they're going to honor the agreement! Even better there is a two month notice period that either party has to give to end the agreement, so the earliest they can give me the boot is the last day of March! The size of the vein on the dudes forehead was so big you could plucked it right off with some chop sticks. Hahahaha I hornswaggled the poo poo out of him. That said he made it very clear that he would make absolutely certain that I never sign a lease there again or with any other building managed by the company.

quote:

I dont live in a houseboat yet and that sucks. I also have been scrambling to find a place to live short term in the interim as well thats fairly cheap. Having a dog makes finding an apartment complicated.

quote:

Status is this:
No houseboat in site, now desperately looking for short term apartment that takes dogs since I burned bridges at my current place. Work is getting lovely too so I'm looking for a new job on top of everything else.

quote:

I found a much shittier apartment that the girlfriend and I both hate. It's $200 a month cheaper but seems run down. Guess I'll see how it goes.

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