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Rustybear posted:Farage really seems to have cracked, can't explain it at all. Farage makes his money from the possibility of Brexit, not the actuality of it. E: if Nigel Farage took his shoes off to count, 168 would be his favourite number. Jedit fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Midnight- posted:It'll pass, but that google doc sheet showing all 19 labour MPs who signed the letter for a deal voting for it is over the top IMO. Nah. It’ll be the same shower of shits who have broken the whip before. So like 2-3.
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"Well, you see, a No Deal Brexit has always been my greatest fetish....WORRY. Yes. Worry. Always getting them mixed up." --- Also, quelle fuckin' suprise: quote:MPs will not see any official economic analysis of the impact of Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal before they vote on it on Saturday, Downing Street has confirmed, with such documents only being produced subsequently. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Good to see wavering Labour MPs being leaned on to vote against.
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u brexit ukip it posted:Good to see wavering Labour MPs being leaned on to vote against. There must be so much stuff going on behind the scenes across all parties at the moment.
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HauntedRobot posted:If getting brexit done constitutes round 1 I shudder to think what round 2 entails but I can imagine Camps.
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Grey Hunter posted:There must be so much stuff going on behind the scenes across all parties at the moment. Furious back room whipping. And probably some politics
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the DUP are against it, it's dead in the water Joris needs every single Tory (which he won't get) plus all the ex-Tory independents (which he won't get) plus some Labour votes (which he will get but no more than 4 or 5)
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HauntedRobot posted:Furious back room whipping.
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How hard is the "Labour is risking no-deal Brexit by voting against the deal" noise going to grow? I reckon there's a large number of people that are not properly informed and rather scared at the same time, and they can be easily swayed by this kind of rhetoric...After all, both the EU and the government had reached some kind of consensus at this point.
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That Italian Guy posted:How hard is the "Labour is risking no-deal Brexit by voting against the deal" noise going to grow? I reckon there's a large number of people that are not properly informed and rather scared at the same time, and they can be easily swayed by this kind of rhetoric. Unless the lib dems are voting for it, who else are they going to side with?
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When is the vote?
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That Italian Guy posted:How hard is the "Labour is risking no-deal Brexit by voting against the deal" noise going to grow? I reckon there's a large number of people that are not properly informed and rather scared at the same time, and they can be easily swayed by this kind of rhetoric...After all, both the EU and the government had reached some kind of consensus at this point. EU and govt had reached an agreement a year ago with May. It's good that both Keir Starmer and Hilary Benn have set out the reasons why the Johnson deal is crap. One might hope that the BBC and 'sensible' papers report the reasons. (And I will wake up a sylph-like figure tomorrow in my dreams).
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That Italian Guy posted:How hard is the "Labour is risking no-deal Brexit by voting against the deal" noise going to grow? I reckon there's a large number of people that are not properly informed and rather scared at the same time, and they can be easily swayed by this kind of rhetoric...After all, both the EU and the government had reached some kind of consensus at this point. Seeing as how this won't actually kill no deal the argument is dumb as gently caress https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/st...ingawful.com%2F Jose fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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ThomasPaine posted:When is the vote? Saturday mid-late afternoon iirc
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:And I will wake up a sylph-like figure  Actually waking up a birb tomorrow might be pretty sweet. The beast is much more content with mere existence than man; the plant is wholly so.
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Guavanaut posted:The beast is much more content with mere existence than man; the plant is wholly so. Another finger on the monkey paw curls up: you wake up as a Tory plant in a question time audience. vvv 
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Rustybear posted:Farage really seems to have cracked, can't explain it at all. Farage wants a seat at Westminster. Brexit is his means of getting one. He needs to push Brexit harder than the Tories will, and for the deal to fail, so that he can use that in the general election. If any deal passes he doesn't get to satisfy the inferiority complex that drives him. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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^^^ did I miss a rule change?Julio Cruz posted:the DUP are against it, it's dead in the water The Tory rebels on May's votes were the ERG, who are indicating they'll vote with the Government on this. The ex-Tory independents overwhelmingly (entirely?) voted for May's deal and are very much on the "stop no deal" platform, which suggests they'd vote for this deal You've a lot more faith in continuing PLP unity (especially in the absence of serious threats and with the ever-escalating public sense of wanting it to be over) than I do. Not least since there are multiple reasons why any given Labour MP might vote for it, up to and including "there's a good chance this will gently caress Labour at the next election"
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Niric posted:^^^ did I miss a rule change? Even funnier would be finding out that it’s actually a regular poster’s alt account.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:(And I will wake up a sylph-like figure tomorrow in my dreams). 
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Grey Hunter posted:Yeah, this is going to be closer than Mays vote, but I doubt it will pass, the press is playing it up, but that's to sell papers/get clicks. Unless there is a good number of Labour defectors, then we should be back to plan A - extension then crushing the Tories. I think it'll do even worse than Mays deals did, any pro-remain MP just has to vote against the Boris deal to get the best chance of a second referendum.
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Niric posted:^^^ did I miss a rule change? For what it's worth, the guy from The Inbetweeners who writes for the FT reckons as it stands it's 321 against, 318 for.
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Niric posted:^^^ did I miss a rule change? Lightning Knight posted:
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Also after discussing it with CB and amongst ourselves, we’ve decided we won’t punish people just for mentioning pissflaps anymore as long as it doesn’t cause an extended derail. What constitutes “an extended derail” is up to interpretation.
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Pissflaps posted:Farage wants a seat at Westminster. Brexit is his means of getting one. He needs to push Brexit harder than the Tories will, and for the deal to fail, so that he can use that in the general election. Thank you for the reminder that the thread is so much better without you 
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https://twitter.com/phill_kemp/status/1185157037015162881?s=21 A neat piece of investigative journalism from the BBC? Who'da thunk?
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Cyber marketing specialist is like, raiden with a briefcase full of graphs.
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Pissflaps posted:Farage wants a seat at Westminster. Brexit is his means of getting one. He needs to push Brexit harder than the Tories will, and for the deal to fail, so that he can use that in the general election. Someone forgot to switch to their alt account 
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OwlFancier posted:Cyber marketing specialist is like, raiden with a briefcase full of graphs. 1337 Hacker House of Tubular Technology King Gnarly University
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/phill_kemp/status/1185157037015162881?s=21 They do manage to avoid noticing that "A Tacker" = "Attacker" in a story about cyber security though so
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HauntedRobot posted:They do manage to avoid noticing that "A Tacker" = "Attacker" in a story about cyber security though so also quote:"You should write your story about the juvenile snickering by ministers at the term 'penetration testing'," he said, adding: "We watched three MPs who were unable to hide their amusement at the professional terminology thus proving they have no business discussing digital industries or cyber security at all."
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/phill_kemp/status/1185157037015162881?s=21 bbc news guy posted:For the past two days I've been investigating...
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Bristol peeps, Jezza is coming to visit for a rally on Thursday! You should have just received an email with an invitation to sign up for details  So now I'm gonna get to see Corbyn speak live. Quite excited about this 
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Rarity posted:Bristol peeps, Jezza is coming to visit for a rally on Thursday! You should have just received an email with an invitation to sign up for details Oh, Jeremy Corbyn?
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Rarity posted:Someone forgot to switch to their alt account lol I wonder if he is posting here under an alt, doesn't matter since they can't afford to be as insufferable without giving the game away
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