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twoday posted:shout out to all the forensics experts out there who are diligently working to create reconstructions of ancient people that don't look like they could possibly be accurate I saw this last night for the first time and am still fuckin laffin I dreamt about it overnight
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we're gonna find the gallic shovel he ran into while chasing vercingetorix around a corner
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# ? Oct 23, 2019 16:06 |
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Tree Bucket posted:It's interesting; this one lacks the lines around the mouth that appear in the other busts (I'm sure there's a proper name for them.) Are they certain this is a Caesar portrait? looks like they dropped their clay model on the ground face down and just went with it anyway
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# ? Oct 23, 2019 16:11 |
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Tree Bucket posted:It's interesting; this one lacks the lines around the mouth that appear in the other busts (I'm sure there's a proper name for them.) Are they certain this is a Caesar portrait? It says in Dutch: Reminiscent of other busts of Caesar (but most likely not)
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# ? Oct 23, 2019 17:03 |
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https://youtu.be/_-5RZBKBl_A
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# ? Oct 23, 2019 18:20 |
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DrPop posted:I saw this last night for the first time and am still fuckin laffin Prime avatar material, gotta say
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# ? Oct 23, 2019 21:12 |
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Agean90 posted:that neckbeard is luscious He was out buying new anime wall scrolls while Rome burned.
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# ? Oct 23, 2019 21:14 |
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https://twitter.com/profgalloway/status/1187446753596968960?s=20
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 21:00 |
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He also believes Augustus Caesar ushered in an era of prosperity, good governence and stability in the empire, so he's kind of an idiot. And he looks like Nero.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 21:02 |
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KiteAuraan posted:He also believes Augustus Caesar ushered in an era of prosperity, good governence and stability in the empire, so he's kind of an idiot. missing the neckbeard imo
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KiteAuraan posted:He also believes Augustus Caesar ushered in an era of prosperity, good governence and stability in the empire, so he's kind of an idiot. Was stable as long as he was alive I guess.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 21:43 |
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Was stable as long as he was alive I guess. he killed or owned everyone else and launched histories biggest propaganda campaign at that time
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Real hurthling! posted:he killed or owned everyone else and launched histories biggest propaganda campaign at that time I know I'm not agreeing with the zuckman
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Gringostar posted:missing the neckbeard imo Got him mixed up with his uncle, Caligula. There is a statue of him from Pompeii that is totally Zucc.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 22:08 |
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Tree Bucket posted:It's interesting; this one lacks the lines around the mouth that appear in the other busts (I'm sure there's a proper name for them.) Are they certain this is a Caesar portrait? No, nobody's really certain of any of the bust reputed to represent Julius Caesar. That one with the weirdly shaped head is the most likely contemporary depiction but even that's disputed. Everyone post the bust of your favorite emperor: Elagabalus: the Rome's queerest Emperor. Murdered for being too much of a fuckboi Vitellius. Fat, tried to quit being emperor, beheaded and thrown into Tiber by Vespasian
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:06 |
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flavians ftw. shout out to my boy martial. epigrams were tight. the original dozens
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:09 |
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can't believe it took one post for someone to gently caress up "post the bust of"
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:11 |
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Squalid posted:
my man out here looking like a create a character from an anime game
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:11 |
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Squalid posted:No, nobody's really certain of any of the bust reputed to represent Julius Caesar. That one with the weirdly shaped head is the most likely contemporary depiction but even that's disputed. I fought a dude in a trailer park that looked exactly like this.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:25 |
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Elagabalus was pretty fabulous but if he’s already been posted I would have to go with Maximinus Thrax, who was supposedly 8’6”
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:32 |
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mycomancy posted:I fought a dude in a trailer park that looked exactly like this. That's the thing about Roman sculpture, you feel like you know these people and what their favourite movie book and food would be. It's amazing.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:33 |
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Ghostlight posted:nasolabial folds, bane of incels ...do I want to know why this is?
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:35 |
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Tree Bucket posted:That's the thing about Roman sculpture, you feel like you know these people and what their favourite movie book and food would be. It's amazing. Yeah the unique thing about roman sculpture is was intended to be a realist depiction of the subject including the physical flaws. Greek sculpture by contrast was more focused on creating a idealized version of humanity.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 01:50 |
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mycomancy posted:I fought a dude in a trailer park that looked exactly like this. lol getting serious fas vibes from your boy
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 02:40 |
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Also the bust of Elagabalus (named himself this after a Syrian sun god called Heliogabalus, which he tried to make the chief deity of Rome, which is really why he was murdered probably) was made after the empire had started to buckle under civil wars, inflation, and stronger enemies on the borders. The art in this period starts to make the transition to the more simplified and stylized forms of late antiquity.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 02:44 |
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This is a cool channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XdPodNwSGU
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 14:09 |
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I've been trying to fall asleep listening to that channel recently, but the videos are too short for that
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 14:11 |
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Make a playlist with a bunch in a row?
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 14:16 |
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twoday posted:This is a cool channel God I love the guy's direction: "There's a sea, and west of it there's a city. Go past it, turn left and there's another sea and more cities"
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 14:48 |
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has anyone figured out how to make Greek fire yet?
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 00:57 |
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yes, the greeks
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 00:57 |
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twoday posted:yes, the greeks I thought it was called Greek fire because it was used against the Greeks
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 01:39 |
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ikanreed posted:I thought it was called Greek fire because it was used against the Greeks no quote:In naval warfare, the Eastern Roman Emperor Anastasius I (r. 491–518) is recorded by chronicler John Malalas to have been advised by a philosopher from Athens called Proclus to use sulfur to burn the ships of Vitalianus. Greek fire proper, however, was developed in c. 672 and is ascribed by the chronicler Theophanes to Kallinikos (Latinized Callinicus), an architect from Heliopolis in the former province of Phoenice, by then overrun by the Muslim conquests: twoday has issued a correction as of 01:49 on Oct 26, 2019 |
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twoday posted:yes, the greeks oh please they can’t even make a balanced budget
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 01:51 |
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Siege Weapons invented by Archimedes of Syracuse: Claw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1YrueoGlbE&t=4s quote:The Claw (Ancient Greek: Ἁρπάγη, romanized: harpágē, lit. 'snatcher') of Archimedes (also known as the "iron hand") was an ancient weapon devised by Archimedes to defend the seaward portion of Syracuse's city wall against amphibious assault. Although its exact nature is unclear, the accounts of ancient historians seem to describe it as a sort of crane equipped with a grappling hook that was able to lift an attacking ship partly out of the water, then either cause the ship to capsize or suddenly drop it. It was dropped onto enemy ships, which would then swing itself and destroy the ship. Heat Beam: quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TolyJz5nPqs&t=14s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sviuy4TFWc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtzRAjW6KO0 http://web.mit.edu/2.009/www/experiments/deathray/10_ArchimedesResult.html
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 02:14 |
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Help, I'm getting sucked into an "Egyptology is wrong" hole. One one hand, I had no idea about the underground structures carved into the bedrock with the huge 70+ton granite boxes and those seem even more crazy than the pyramids themselves. They're smoothly polished but the hieroglyphs used to date them look like they're carved into them with tools that could barely scratch the surface. Doesn't make sense to me. And how could they move those fuckers through tunnels that were barely wider than the boxes themselves? How could they have carved them with copper tools? Possible water erosion on the base of the Sphinx? I dunno but seems possible I guess? On the other hand, these people then start talking about sacred geometry and I'm noping the gently caress out. "The dimensions of the Great Pyramid are 1/4 of 1 minute of longitude and latitude at the equator" like wtf are you talking about? "The shafts are perfectly aligned with this or that star/constellation" yeah okay, everything is aligned with something in the sky, the rain gutters on my roof are probably aligned with Alpha Centauri or whatever. I guess I'm intrigued by the idea that we had a fairly advanced civilization that got wiped out during the Younger Dryas, but I have a hard time finding anyone looking into this who isn't also into esoteric poo poo.
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That's because the majority of those sorts of alternative ideas still trace back to theosophical cosmology rooted in Victorian ideas of race science, or to medieval translations of Islamic translations of Greek writings on the function of the pyramids or the history of Egypt. I've not seen any pictures of tombs with poorly-cut hieroglyphics, but cutting specific irregular shapes into rock would be considerably more difficult than taking the uneven peaks off of it. Sir John Gardner Wilkinson postulated that the Egyptians favoured the use of copper and bronze tools because the soft metal held emery powder more readily, allowing them to use mechanical assistance such as a wheel and drill like an engraver rather than simply chiseling into the stone. Egypt also preferentially sourced the stronger arsenical copper from its mines in Sinai.
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Ghostlight posted:That's because the majority of those sorts of alternative ideas still trace back to theosophical cosmology rooted in Victorian ideas of race science, or to medieval translations of Islamic translations of Greek writings on the function of the pyramids or the history of Egypt. I guess I should have posted pictures, there's some in this post if you scroll down a little: http://www.pukajay.com/pukajaypress/?p=110 The whole video about the boxes is also at the top, but it's almost an hour long. They get to walk around sections closed to the public though.
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Vodos posted:I guess I should have posted pictures, there's some in this post if you scroll down a little: http://www.pukajay.com/pukajaypress/?p=110 The problem with all these things often comes down to "so what is your alternative theory?" I'm at work so skimmed the article, but it's a list of questions like "how could they have seen in the dark?" Or "how could they have carved on the stone?" With no alternatives mentioned, which is making me think there is an unwritten "it was aliens" subtext. In general, "common sense" questions on the behavior of ancient people is a minefield, because while the ancients were just like us, they also were very much not like us. Like for the darkness problem, they may literally have done it in the dark by feel, explaining the rough work. It's like with stonehenge or the various sites in Peru, where you will see comments questioning the extreme effort that would be required to accomplish the task as evidence that it must have been something else. This missed the point that yeah, ancient societies did weird poo poo, like devoting the entire villages free time in the winter to moving a giant rear end stone another 500 feet, which continued for hundreds of years.
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