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It's clear Dorsey is the one with the most power in the organization after the owner. Usually it's the head coach who creates the gameday rosters, not the GM
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Oct 25, 2019 23:23
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wandler20 posted:Let Monken call the plays you cowards! God loving dammit I wish the Jets had hired Monken so badly. He’s going to waste in Cleveland.
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Oct 25, 2019 23:28
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Professor Funk posted:God loving dammit I wish the Jets had hired Monken so badly. He’s going to waste in Cleveland. I don't really get why Monken got some hype last offseason. Couple years full time offensive coordinator with the Buccaneers and a couple years as an HC at a G5 school and mostly a positional coach otherwise I get his year in Cleveland was supposed to make him look super legit for the coaching jobs next year but man does he really scream "next offensive mastermind!" in the exact way Kitchens did. Mega64 posted:Don't the Patriots do poo poo like this constantly? Not while fining players for getting surgery.
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Oct 25, 2019 23:38
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Ches Neckbeard posted:I don't really get why Monken got some hype last offseason. Couple years full time offensive coordinator with the Buccaneers and a couple years as an HC at a G5 school and mostly a positional coach otherwise I get his year in Cleveland was supposed to make him look super legit for the coaching jobs next year but man does he really scream "next offensive mastermind!" in the exact way Kitchens did It’s mostly the bucket hats. But I do see the point that the same issue as Kitchens seems to have might be there, ie he just can’t handle being the CEO.
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Oct 25, 2019 23:42
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LaFleur didn't look so hot after an underwhelming stint as the Titans OC last season, but the Packers are looking drat good now. Of course, most of that was probably because you can only do so much with the Titans offense.
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The Bucs quietly had one of the league's best passing offenses last year despite Jameis and Fitzmagic playing musical chairs, the Monken hype didn't come from nowhere.
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Benne posted:The Bucs quietly had one of the league's best passing offenses last year despite Jameis and Fitzmagic playing musical chairs, the Monken hype didn't come from nowhere. And when Dirk took over calling the plays there was a huge difference in production.
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Oct 26, 2019 00:02
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Mega64 posted:Don't the Patriots do poo poo like this constantly? Belichick’s gimmick is to list the entire 53 man roster as “questionable” every week due to sore dicks or whatever Listing a player as “doubtful” who just underwent very public season ending surgery is just some kind of weird passive aggressive shot at the guy.
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Oct 26, 2019 00:37
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Docjowles posted:Belichick’s gimmick is to list the entire 53 man roster as “questionable” every week due to sore dicks or whatever lmao he does this because jim Mora jr. of all people faked him out by listing vick as questionable and then his defense couldn't stop........MATT SCHAUB!!?!
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The greatest thing was Brady being listed as “Shoulder - Questionable” for like every single team activity for five straight seasons, and the very first game where the NFL changed the rules and made them stop listing Brady is when Bernard Pollard entered our lives and our hearts forever. 
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Oct 26, 2019 01:18
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Mega64 posted:LaFleur didn't look so hot after an underwhelming stint as the Titans OC last season, but the Packers are looking drat good now. I'm gonna need to see more than half a season to decide if Lafleur is actually good. Dan Quinn looked good early on too. So did Matt Nagy.
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Oct 26, 2019 01:31
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I'm gonna need to see more than half a season to decide if Lafleur is actually good. Dan Quinn looked good early on too. So did Matt Nagy. He's doing better than Fat Mike would've. I'm happy.
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Mega64 posted:LaFleur didn't look so hot after an underwhelming stint as the Titans OC last season, but the Packers are looking drat good now. It's not even a new thing, really -- Mike McCarthy was the OC of the 30th-ranked 2005 49ers offense before coming to the Packers and revitalizing Favre's career and kickstarting Rodgers towards the 2010 Super Bowl. Honestly I think a huge part of it is just simply bringing in new blood to the organization. Someone posted an article a couple days ago outlining just how thoroughly the Packers have been shaken free from their rust and inertia.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Honestly I think a huge part of it is just simply bringing in new blood to the organization. Someone posted an article a couple days ago outlining just how thoroughly the Packers have been shaken free from their rust and inertia. and sent most of the scouts some positional coaches and ALMOST McCarthy to Cleveland.
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The Packers were one of those teams that technically weren't bad, but desperately needed a fresh coat of paint and new ideas to extend their contention window. Jury may be out on LaFleur, but I'm not surprised that Rodgers is finally starting to look like his old self again.
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fartknocker posted:The greatest thing was Brady being listed as “Shoulder - Questionable” for like every single team activity for five straight seasons, and the very first game where the NFL changed the rules and made them stop listing Brady is when Bernard Pollard entered our lives and our hearts forever. Yeah his career was derailed so badly he's only won 3 super bowls since 
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Packers success this year has been 70% because of the defense. Pettine has been a good defensive playcaller but most importantly they can actually pressure the qb after adding the Smiths. I think LaFleur is fine as an offensive playcaller, especially with reviving the play action which was criminally underused under Fat Mike. It's pretty obvious now that the previous GM and coaching regime was as stale as gently caress and replacing them with even average coaches would help Aaron return to form. Things have gone well so far but the jury is still out on how LaFleur will respond to high pressure situations in the playoffs, or how he reacts to teams adjusting to his scheme next year. An injury to one of the Smiths would absolutely derail the defense as well.
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Whooping Crabs posted:Packers success this year has been 70% because of the defense. Pettine has been a good defensive playcaller but most importantly they can actually pressure the qb after adding the Smiths. I think LaFleur is fine as an offensive playcaller, especially with reviving the play action which was criminally underused under Fat Mike. It's pretty obvious now that the previous GM and coaching regime was as stale as gently caress and replacing them with even average coaches would help Aaron return to form. Things have gone well so far but the jury is still out on how LaFleur will respond to high pressure situations in the playoffs, or how he reacts to teams adjusting to his scheme next year. An injury to one of the Smiths would absolutely derail the defense as well. Yea, I agree with this. I'll also add that I think if the defense continues to impress that Pettine will get some head coaching looks again, and a big question for any head coach is how they manage talented coordinators leaving.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Yea, I agree with this. I'll also add that I think if the defense continues to impress that Pettine will get some head coaching looks again, and a big question for any head coach is how they manage talented coordinators leaving. Pettine has said he doesn't want to be an HC again.
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Oct 26, 2019 18:11
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Pettine has said he doesn't want to be an HC again. He had a miserable experience with the Browns and is justifiably gunshy, but I wouldn't be shocked if that opinion changes if he gets in a couple of good years and the right team comes calling.
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Oct 26, 2019 18:23
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Ches Neckbeard posted:and sent most of the scouts some positional coaches and ALMOST McCarthy to Cleveland. Would the Browns be better off this season with McCarthy instead of Kitchens?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Would the Browns be better off this season with McCarthy instead of Kitchens? Said it before, I think it's a wash between them
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I think the salary jump between a coordinator and head coach would be enough to convince a guy who might not enjoy it.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Would the Browns be better off this season with McCarthy instead of Kitchens? Yes. Ches Neckbeard posted:Said it before, I think it's a wash between them You'd have less of everything wrong with Kitchens. Kitchens is the pupal stage of Mike McCarthy. You'd have boneheaded penalties, but less. You'd have lovely play calling, but less so. Also, Baker might've been better off under Fat Mike.
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LabyaMynora posted:You'd have lovely play calling, but less so. He was making Rodgers look washed and couldn't figure out how to use Aaron Jones. Right now the good part of the offense s Nick Chubb the running back. McCarthy might be good after a year off to consider what dumb poo poo he was doing in GB but directly after no way in hell.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:He was making Rodgers look washed and couldn't figure out how to use Aaron Jones. Right now the good part of the offense s Nick Chubb the running back. McCarthy might be good after a year off to consider what dumb poo poo he was doing in GB but directly after no way in hell. McCarthy's future success entirely relies on if he decides to bring back his clowncar of lovely assistant coaches he was super loyal to.
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Deki posted:McCarthy's future success entirely relies on if he decides to bring back his clowncar of lovely assistant coaches he was super loyal to. Wasn't Andy Reid in his late Eagles years like that too?
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sean10mm posted:Wasn't Andy Reid in his late Eagles years like that too? To the point of making his o-line coach his DC, yes
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GD_American posted:To the point of making his o-line coach his DC, yes That was amazing. Juan Castillo never forget.
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Dan Quinn probably isn't surviving today!
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Welcome to the thread Matt Nagy https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/status/1188547211971330049
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LabyaMynora posted:Thinking about the Browns and how Freddie Kitchens ended up as HC: I feel like every time a team does "Well we can't let our OC get away, we'll make him HC and fire whoever" has never worked.
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Oct 27, 2019 21:16
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Today was Dan Quinn's last game.
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Why fire Quinn now? There's nobody worth promoting and he's not ruining a QB.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Why fire Quinn now? There's nobody worth promoting and he's not ruining a QB. Also, the rest of the schedule is a buzz saw of Saints twice, Panthers twice, and 49ers. Ain't nobody want to deal with that. It's almost like you can argue no one *deserves* the rest of the Falcons schedule more than Quinn.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Why fire Quinn now? There's nobody worth promoting and he's not ruining a QB. Because having the players head out week after week to play half assed football for a dead man walking for another 8 weeks probably isn't a great way to build a decent foundation for next year. At some point you have to signal to the people there that you still give a poo poo about the product on the field.
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The knives are coming out for Fangio https://twitter.com/RyanKoenigsberg/status/1188555924245364736
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Will Elway side with a tall quarterback or the coach he hired? That's the cheap joke I came up with but I actually don't know. We need Drew Lock's thoughts here.
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Grittybeard posted:Will Elway side with a tall quarterback or the coach he hired? He's going to fire Fangio after one underwhelming season because he regrets keeping Vance Joseph on for the second year. I've been saying it since the beginning of the season, Elway's thinking is transparent as gently caress. He's not smart.
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