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Pretty much. The Bears cap situation is probably sub mediocre, but it's not the Vikings level where they are already over the cap next year, or the Falcons that are somehow both over the cap and have almost no ability to move contracts around to free up significant space.
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Yesterday immediately made me think of the Trestman second down field goal. Just this cowardly "nah, don't need more yards this is good enough" mind set. I hate it.
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Oct 28, 2019 18:53
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Dexo posted:What? They're already at $204 million next year in contracts (cap will be around $200 million). Eddie Jackson and Tarik Cohen will be in their final years and looking for extensions. They'll need a guard and a safety. To get any sort of cap space, they'll need to not pick up Floyd's option or cut Robinson. Where are you getting $20-$30 million for a good QB without cutting a lot of good players?
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Oct 28, 2019 19:09
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fishing with the fam posted:Yesterday immediately made me think of the Trestman second down field goal. Just this cowardly "nah, don't need more yards this is good enough" mind set. I hate it. Nagy did the same dumb poo poo last year in Miami.
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Oct 28, 2019 19:09
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MJeff posted:He [Aaron Jones] is the Matt Stafford to Dalvin Cook's Aaron Rodgers. this is hilariously apt, couldn't have put it better myself I'm not even down on Aaron Jones, I love him as a runner and receiver but it's so good to finally see Cook being the player he was supposed to be. His speed and shiftiness is incredible, against Washington he had one of the best runs of the year where he made the entire defense look like fools as one after another he set them up, let them shoot at him for the tackle and calmly avoided each one towards the space at the center of the field. Instead of letting guys chase him down he forced them to leave their feet and take themselves out of the play completely, it was gorgeous
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Niwrad posted:They're already at $204 million next year in contracts (cap will be around $200 million). Eddie Jackson and Tarik Cohen will be in their final years and looking for extensions. They'll need a guard and a safety. To get any sort of cap space, they'll need to not pick up Floyd's option or cut Robinson. They have ~19 million that can roll over into next year. Also you are getting that money by doing some cap things like back loading contracts and re-negotiating non-guarantees to move money later. Dexo fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 19:54
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fishing with the fam posted:Yesterday immediately made me think of the Trestman second down field goal. Just this cowardly "nah, don't need more yards this is good enough" mind set. I hate it. Coincidentally, my “on this day” thing from Facebook was a post 7 years ago complaining about Lovie settling for a 41 yard FG at the end of a Carolina game. Difference being Gould nailed it afterwards.
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Oct 28, 2019 19:57
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mastershakeman posted:mitch's 5 games against the vikings, including this year where he had just 3 passes These seem pretty factual and ‘sciency’, I guess I’ve(wrongly) associated the Vikings complete inability to do anything against the bears for the last three matchups as a shining example of Mitch’s brilliance under center. I also went to the week 17 game last year and Mitch made some really nice throws that game. His overall numbers weren’t impressive, but he threw some daggers that game and I think ran for a couple first downs as well. There seems to be something about the Bears for this Vikings team though, we just look so bad against them.
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DoctaFun posted:These seem pretty factual and ‘sciency’, I guess I’ve(wrongly) associated the Vikings complete inability to do anything against the bears for the last three matchups as a shining example of Mitch’s brilliance under center. We play like absolute crap in Chicago for some reason, but with last year being the exception win in MN. Divisional games are weird.
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DoctaFun posted:These seem pretty factual and ‘sciency’, I guess I’ve(wrongly) associated the Vikings complete inability to do anything against the bears for the last three matchups as a shining example of Mitch’s brilliance under center. The Bears defense has been remarkably good against the run (when Akiem Hicks plays) and when the Vikings can’t run the ball and have to rely on Kirk to make plays, well, you know the rest
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Niwrad posted:They're already at $204 million next year in contracts (cap will be around $200 million). Eddie Jackson and Tarik Cohen will be in their final years and looking for extensions. They'll need a guard and a safety. To get any sort of cap space, they'll need to not pick up Floyd's option or cut Robinson. They shouldn't pick up Floyd or Shaheen. Floyd is flat out a bust outside of packers games, it's weird.
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Dubious posted:trubisky is basically another ponder Nah he's better than ponder was. He's more of a Jake locker
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Unless I missed this. I'd anticipate him getting cut. https://twitter.com/PioneerPress/status/1188972641824202753
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Oct 29, 2019 02:30
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Hey NFC North thread, I'd like to posit a question. Is Matt Nagy the best coach in Chicago Sports. I'll hang up and listen.
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Oct 29, 2019 02:35
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David Ross hasn't hosed anything up yet. He's in the lead.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:David Ross hasn't hosed anything up yet. He's in the lead. Wait... what? Wow, I hadn't heard this yet.
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Dexo posted:Hey NFC North thread, I'd like to posit a question. Is Matt Nagy the best coach in Chicago Sports. Chicago sports? Quenneville is by far the best. Phil Jackson was good, but I dont know how much of that was just the sheer talent on the team at that time. I'm just now noticing you didnt say "ever." If that's the case, probably nagy. Renteria has a chance if he pushes the sox next year.
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Just to be clear, nobody actually thinks Kaep would make this team good, right? It’s just kind of a stopgap before they hopefully find a real QB in a draft?
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ZombieCrew posted:Chicago sports? Quenneville was by far the best.
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Was looking at the bears cap situation which isn't great but they aren't capped out by any means and... im sorry.
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beejay posted:Just to be clear, nobody actually thinks Kaep would make this team good, right? It’s just kind of a stopgap before they hopefully find a real QB in a draft? Kaep’s scrambling ability would help offset the weak o-line, but there’d be a limit on what he could do. Especially having been out of the game for a few years. The Bears’ bigger problem is that the defense will win them enough games that they’re not going to have a top-5 pick anytime soon, in a league where a decent chunk of teams will be looking to draft a QB, which means they have to gamble a lot more. Question- have all the Bears fans given up on Trubs?
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adaz posted:Was looking at the bears cap situation which isn't great but they aren't capped out by any means and... Double doink into the red
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The Bears having 2 2nd round picks but no 1st 3rd or 4th is what makes their cap situation more dire. They can free up some room yes but they are probably going to have suboptimal replacements for some spots. Maybe actually getting a decent QB is enough to have a better version of a team though even with crappier guys in other spots.
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Abugadu posted:The Bears’ bigger problem is that the defense will win them enough games that they’re not going to have a top-5 pick anytime soon, in a league where a decent chunk of teams will be looking to draft a QB, which means they have to gamble a lot more. Also, they don't have a first round pick next year because they traded it away for Mack Edit: How did I not see the post directly above me, whoops
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If there is a QB that slides having 2 seconds will allow them to move into the mid to late first round in theory But sure.
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The NFL put out a "Top 10 Lions plays at midway point of 2019" clip and the #3 was a TD called back as an incomplete: http://www.nfl.com/videos/detroit-lions/0ap3000001070924/Top-10-Lions-plays-at-midway-point-of-2019
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Dexo posted:If there is a QB that slides having 2 seconds will allow them to move into the mid to late first round in theory Yeah they could but what’s your point? That makes it even harder to help find cheap capable replacements when they wouldn’t have a pick until the fifth round.
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The "But sure" wasn't meant to be sarcastic. The thing is the Bears aren't thaat bereft of talent. The QB is just really bad. The Defense is still very very good
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Ah all good man. What I am getting at is we have most likely seen the peak of the Bears defense. And if the defense is very good instead of great and say an average QB is obtained, are they really a contender at that point? They’ll need to hit on some low round picks/undrafted guys to fill in the holes.
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Why couldn't they have just picked Watson or Mahomes 
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beejay posted:Why couldn't they have just picked Watson or Mahomes Gotta kiss those titties
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Hand Row posted:Ah all good man. What I am getting at is we have most likely seen the peak of the Bears defense. And if the defense is very good instead of great and say an average QB is obtained, are they really a contender at that point? They’ll need to hit on some low round picks/undrafted guys to fill in the holes. The Defense would be helped by an Offense that allowed them to not be perfect and didn't constantly put them on the field after a 3 and out. And an average QB would be able to hit recievers open on the sidelines. Players on defense are just loving drained.
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https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1189189301034110976 Please god what did I do to deserve this?
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1189189301034110976 they love all his intangibles, such as his [is white], that really differentiated him from Watson and Mahomes
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rofl what the gently caress is a want-to? I mean sure I guess it's great he really wants to be a QB someday but you'd think there's better metrics to measure his effectiveness somehow..
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Beethovens Fist Symphony posted:rofl what the gently caress is a want-to? Following a long tradition in Chicago sports: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfJw8LeSuY&t=114s
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Beethovens Fist Symphony posted:rofl what the gently caress is a want-to? Cutler broke this franchise in more ways than one.
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sticking with a QB that sucks but he tries real hard in the NFL
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Abugadu posted:Question- have all the Bears fans given up on Trubs? if they haven't yet when will they? I mean, christ Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1189189301034110976  his want-to? what a jokeYou can't perform better on game days by wanting to. I honestly feel a bit bad for the guy, he just ain't it
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