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I think they mentioned at one point that they recognize the writing is broken but are still willing to give it a chance because of how hosed up the writer's room/showrunning has been for the show the first 2 seasons. They're still enjoying new Trek. It's
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I see we've evolved from "I don't like Discovery" to "It annoys me that other people like Discovery"
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It annoys me that you don't like that it annoys me other people like Discovery
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It annoys me that you don't like that it annoys me other people like Discovery that's the spirit
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Oct 29, 2019 18:17
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jeeves posted:What I don't get is their loving love for Discovery. I think it may be because the podcasters both work in tv/film production so the technical of the series look great and are top notch. It is just seriously some of the worst writing around, way worse than the last season of Game of Thrones, and that was some serious poo poo. I still think the show doesn't actually look that great, it looks relatively expensive to me but aside from one or two vfx shots and that huge klingon set from the first season it still reminds me of any first person shooter from the last 15 years.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It annoys me that you don't like that it annoys me other people like Rick & Morty 
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It annoys me that you don't like that it annoys me other people like Discovery People, this is how causality loops get started. So when the podcast hits the nacelle and we all die over and over again, don't come crying to me.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:25
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You can come crying to me. I'm Frasier And I'm listening
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Powered Descent posted:People, this is how causality loops get started. So when the podcast hits the nacelle and we all die over and over again, don't come crying to me. 3
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A few pages I ran across from "Ideas for developing a graphic identity system for the new Starship Enterprise", Mike Okuda, 1987:  Graphic design is neat and also thank god TNG had Mike Okuda on board, without him it'd probably be way more generic. (And button-based and primitive looking)
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Oct 29, 2019 18:41
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MikeJF posted:A few pages I ran across from "Ideas for developing a graphic identity system for the new Starship Enterprise", Mike Okuda, 1987: just hook this poo poo directly into my veins
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Oct 29, 2019 18:45
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Quick, everybody vote the thread a three, to send a message to the next loop!
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Oct 29, 2019 18:46
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CPColin posted:Quick, everybody vote the thread a three, to send a message to the next loop! ...the shitposting will not be effective. I am gassing the thread.
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CPColin posted:Quick, everybody vote the thread a three, to send a message to the next loop! ...This is highly improbable.
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Grand Fromage posted:...the shitposting will not be effective. There are...four...threads!!!
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Snow Cone Capone posted:There are...four...threads!!! I posted in all the trek threads simultaneously and now I'm a salamander
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MikeJF posted:A few pages I ran across from "Ideas for developing a graphic identity system for the new Starship Enterprise", Mike Okuda, 1987: Ahhh I really want to see what these look like but I'm getting a 404 error.
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speakhard posted:Ahhh I really want to see what these look like but I'm getting a 404 error. try these  
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jeeves posted:What I don't get is their loving love for Discovery. I think it may be because the podcasters both work in tv/film production so the technical of the series look great and are top notch. It is just seriously some of the worst writing around, way worse than the last season of Game of Thrones, and that was some serious poo poo. For me it's their complete unequivocal love for every single second of Discovery and complete refusal to say anything negative about it - including the comics which from their descriptions sound like complete and total fanwank. Didn't think The Trouble with Edward was a laugh-a-minute comedy masterpiece? Then you must be a 'Not my Star Trek' hater. I'm sure a bit of negativity wouldn't destroy any special relationship they've established so far...
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Zaroff posted:For me it's their complete unequivocal love for every single second of Discovery and complete refusal to say anything negative about it - including the comics which from their descriptions sound like complete and total fanwank. Didn't think The Trouble with Edward was a laugh-a-minute comedy masterpiece? Then you must be a 'Not my Star Trek' hater. I've found a lot of vocal internet Discovery fans are very much like new-starwars fans in that there's such polarizing opinions they'd had to make their like of thing into an almost identity issue, a tribal thing, or even a political thing. They have to love every second of every episode to own the haters. They have to find every weird retcon or plot hole a massive improvement to the canon. But mostly they have to be always be posting about how great it is to own to basement dwellers who are probably just racist anyways and can't handle strong women who are good at science. And wow yeah I tried to watch the trouble with edward because John B. and tribbles but it was just incredibly not funny and shockingly mean-spirited. It really contradicted what we've seen of starfleet and humanity in general in trek. Dismissive cruelty, treating underlings as sub-human, and talk about marketing deals and selling cereal ?? "Its just a joke short, don't take it seriously!" folks might say, but a comedy short should maybe have some jokes or comedy in it. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Zaroff posted:For me it's their complete unequivocal love for every single second of Discovery and complete refusal to say anything negative about it - including the comics which from their descriptions sound like complete and total fanwank. Didn't think The Trouble with Edward was a laugh-a-minute comedy masterpiece? Then you must be a 'Not my Star Trek' hater. It's funny because they used to joke about how they were the only podcast not in "the pocket of Big Rod"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Q9T1rxIZI Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 22:25
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Now that's Ro like it, hubba hubba
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CPColin posted:Quick, everybody vote the thread a three, to send a message to the next loop! I suggest using the tractor beam to alter the thread's trajectory. 
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Baronjutter posted:It really contradicted what we've seen of starfleet and humanity in general in trek. So it was par the course for Discovery then? Obviously Kirk is so great him taking over the Enterprise leads to the era of humanity bettering ourselves and being enlightened. So how long do we think the Disco writers will be able to hold off on showing Kirk anyway?
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Humerus posted:So it was par the course for Discovery then? I don't know how they'll manage that 900 years into the future or whenever they are supposed to be now. My theory is they'll keep toying with the idea of a show set on the Enterprise, and when they can't get the guy who played Pike to come back for it, they'll just do another regular TOS reboot (which will also be a prequel, of course).
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I found a link to Stage9 and downloaded it and now I'm angry all over again because this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It's funny because they used to joke about how they were the only podcast not in "the pocket of Big Rod" I don’t believe that they like Disco because they are trying to get into CBS’ good graces. I do think that they are way too positive about it and brush over the show’s real problems, but they are allowed to be fans with bad analysis of the show
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MikeJF posted:I found a link to Stage9 and downloaded it and now I'm angry all over again because this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. I will never not be upset as to why these obviously super-talented people put their real names and contactinfo on this project. You KNOW you're gonna get in trouble, release it anonymously!!
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MrData posted:I will never not be upset as to why these obviously super-talented people put their real names and contactinfo on this project. You KNOW you're gonna get in trouble, release it anonymously!! This is specifically about video game fan projects but still relevant https://youtu.be/hqwP6uuYOWo
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Baronjutter posted:I've found a lot of vocal internet Discovery fans are very much like new-starwars fans in that there's such polarizing opinions they'd had to make their like of thing into an almost identity issue, a tribal thing, or even a political thing. They have to love every second of every episode to own the haters. They have to find every weird retcon or plot hole a massive improvement to the canon. But mostly they have to be always be posting about how great it is to own to basement dwellers who are probably just racist anyways and can't handle strong women who are good at science. Oh come on, this post has to be a joke. You're giving these people crap for the same goddamn thing you're doing-- fuckin' plankeye over here.
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Khanstant posted:Oh come on, this post has to be a joke. You're giving these people crap for the same goddamn thing you're doing-- fuckin' plankeye over here. "I can't stand people who have strong opinions about how good a movie was. But first, let me tell you how god-damned angry I am about a TV show."
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Khanstant posted:Oh come on, this post has to be a joke. You're giving these people crap for the same goddamn thing you're doing-- fuckin' plankeye over here. If you start to think that online trekkies (or any other fandom, really) are reasonable people who often won't desperately gobble up any new material whether they actually like it or not because their whole identity is wrapped up in being a fan then you've been hanging around here too long I actually watched that short trek to see what people were talking about and I'm laughing that the show can't stop being an rear end in a top hat even when it's trying to be ha-ha funny sweet jesus Like I'd love to just sit and have dinner with whoever's writing this stuff just to pick their brains, I wanna know how they grew up that they're like this as adults now. I have some theories but nothing I can confirm from all the way out here
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MrData posted:I will never not be upset as to why these obviously super-talented people put their real names and contactinfo on this project. You KNOW you're gonna get in trouble, release it anonymously!! There's only so anonymous you can be, especially if you want to register a website. Kibayasu posted:This is specifically about video game fan projects but still relevant https://youtu.be/hqwP6uuYOWo It's true but it must also be acknowledged that Star Trek has up until now had an established record of being extraordinarily permissive with fan works. And just because they have the right to be dicks doesn't mean I can't be upset about it.
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MikeJF posted:There's only so anonymous you can be, especially if you want to register a website. The latter part isn't really necessary though. Seed a torrent, then post on some forums from free wi-fi somewhere.
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Tighclops posted:Like I'd love to just sit and have dinner with whoever's writing this stuff just to pick their brains, I wanna know how they grew up that they're like this as adults now. I have some theories but nothing I can confirm from all the way out here I completely understand why it has that rear end in a top hat bent to the humor, like, look at the world for half a second and it becomes clear. I think to write like old-Trek you'd have to be hopelessly oblivious to reality to maintain that optimism.
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It's the natural way humans work to want to iterate off of all the works of fiction around them. Works that play off of already existing brands and ips already have a foothold in people's hearts and minds, so people are more likely to appreciate your work. That same foothold is what inspires so many people to make things on their own in the first place. That's why IP law is so vigorously enforced and is currently the centerpiece of the corporate titans that dominate the entertainment industry. That's what the big moneymaker is. And in the economic darwinism of the current shrinking industry oligopoly, companies that are chill about these things get absorbed by the companies that are real bastards about it.
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Khanstant posted:I completely understand why it has that rear end in a top hat bent to the humor, like, look at the world for half a second and it becomes clear. I think to write like old-Trek you'd have to be hopelessly oblivious to reality to maintain that optimism. I'm extremely pessimistic about the actual future and I think that this attitude is absolutely the wrong one for making relevant, good Star Trek stories People who don't think a better world is possible should not be making a show about how a better world is possible
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