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Xaiter posted:I keep thinking this, logically, yes. It seems like there's no way this is avoidable. Every single South Korean president has been locked up after office and democracy is only getting healthier here over time.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Every single South Korean president has been locked up after office and democracy is only getting healthier here over time. That and one of their Presidents was likely killed by the KCIA.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Every single South Korean president has been locked up after office and democracy is only getting healthier here over time. I don't know poo poo about South Korea outside of internet stereotypes, so I'll take your word for it. But every president? Is there some massive corruption issue or what the gently caress is going on? That said... It wouldn't shock me, wow, enforcing the drat laws in a democratic society is good for re-enforcing those democratic values. It does seem self-evident. It's just American political discourse, as described in my rambling nonsense, is absolutely bonkers and makes no sense with mission critical rules for a functional democracy only operating on pinky promises. Even when there's actual violations of the law, the potential "shame" it would bring our nation to charge someone exceeds our will to actually enforce those laws. And sadly, every time we compromise with  , we're left in a more precarious position as faith in the rule of law erodes. Which means when we finally do drop the hammer, the polarization that will result from "Wait, why are we enforcing the rules NOW? WITCH HUNT!!1!" will be pretty drat harsh.In the long run, totally makes sense enforcing the rules, re-enforces the values of a society. If enforcing those rules inflicts pain upon the political body of a Nation, then it has strayed from that society's values. Enforcing the drat rules wouldn't make us a perfect society or the best democracy by a long shot (glares at the existence of the Senate), but it would get us a heck of a lot closer to a functional society that can self-correct without violence, as is the goal of any democratic society. shitpost complete beep boop (gently caress didn't mean to be that long winded again) EDIT: Lote posted:That and one of their Presidents was likely killed by the KCIA. Jesus. That's bad. Xaiter fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Nov 1, 2019 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Every single South Korean president has been locked up after office and democracy is only getting healthier here over time. This is incorrect. Kim Dae Jung and Roh Moo Hyun weren't. Probably more. e: yup, and going back to the dictatorships it seems that more President's haven't been locked up than have been hadji murad fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Nov 1, 2019 |
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Lightning Knight posted:I just saw this on Twitter and I keep thinking about how unhappy the two older ones look and how they’ll probably cite this exact picture in therapy in like a decade lmao. Yeah, it should be child abuse to force your kids to do stupid poo poo like this because you're a fucktard. I don't care what side of the political aisle someone's on, pushing kids to display your stupidity is flat out wrong. Same as those mothers that enter their kids in beauty competitions (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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USPOL Fall: The Bugs Bunny GIF is now canon
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Blind Rasputin posted:USPOL Fall: The Bugs Bunny GIF is now canon I remember the thread where that just got empty quoted for pages and pages. Good times. I hope when Florida really does float away it takes that bloated ignoramus with it and then we can do that again.
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Going to assume that this was 2 years ago because "Good Ole Boy" Johnny doesn't see the kids anymore, because "reasons"
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hadji murad posted:This is incorrect. Kim Dae Jung and Roh Moo Hyun weren't. Probably more. Roh Moo Hyun killed himself because of bribery allegations. You're correct about Kim Dae Jung, only his minister of Justice was arrested. So amend my statement from all to most.
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Charlz Guybon posted:I was only talking about democratically elected presidents. Roh Tae Woo - not incarcerated Kim Young Sam - not incarcerated Kim Dae Jung - not incarcerated Roh Moo Hyun - not incarcerated, investigated before suicide Lee Myung Bak - sentenced to 15 years Park Geun Hye - sentenced to 25 years Hwang Kyo Ahn - not incarcerated
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I'm relatively certain if hundreds of photos of a male politician in sexual poses with their staffers were taken and released, they'd also be forced to resign. I think the photos really put it in your face and make it real. Secondly, a lot of people still cannot accept that some women are attracted to women and some men are attracted to men. Its really just sad. Its 2019.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Yeah, laws are the thing that stops him touche
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TulliusCicero posted:Going to assume that this was 2 years ago because "Good Ole Boy" Johnny doesn't see the kids anymore, because "reasons" how dare that family court discriminate against his economic anxiety
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i am harry posted:How dare you insinuate that I am Donald Trump Junior what the hell wow not even Donald Trump Jr wants to be Donald Trump Jr
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What the hell? https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1190153980212662272 https://www.morganton.com/news/local/man-charged-in-hit-and-run-that-left-woman-dead/article_eff54570-4622-11e6-9994-cb2756aea6f9.html Rincewinds fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Nov 1, 2019 |
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ManBoyChef posted:I think the photos really put it in your face and make it real. Secondly, a lot of people still cannot accept that some women are attracted to women and some men are attracted to men. Its really just sad. Its 2019. Katie Hill is bi too, which has a whole 'nother layer of people denying it exists. (except when hetero men want a threesome, at which point they usually insist that actually all women are bi because in our society every single sexual orientation and gender identity has this really odd way of being primarily defined from the prospective of cis men).
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Rincewinds posted:What the hell? The original got deleted. I wonder why?
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SpannerX posted:The original got deleted. I wonder why? boy, that wasn't where I expected things to go. Is it possible this sort of thing could get him charged with murder instead of a mere hit-and-run? Knowing he's a towering, colossal racist like this, makes it way more plausible he targeted her rather than just an accident.
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They were dressed as trump, obama and hillary.
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From a few pages back now:AhhYes posted:https://twitter.com/ArdenFarhi/status/1189948192986714118?s=20 Tayter Swift posted:Didn't this guy resign his position yesterday? This seems like an... odd path. A reminder in this case that even if the call was technically legal that's by no means an exoneration. Even without the quid pro quo the call still represents an atrocious abuse of power that justifies impeachment on its own. There being an actual crime just makes it that much more clean-cut and damning.
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Besesoth posted:Article III of Impeachment against Richard Nixon: quote:In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, contrary to his oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives on April 11, 1974, May 15, 1974, May 30, 1974, and June 24, 1974, and willfully disobeyed such subpoenas. The subpoenaed papers and things were deemed necessary by the Committee in order to resolve by direct evidence fundamental, factual questions relating to Presidential direction, knowledge or approval of actions demonstrated by other evidence to be substantial grounds for impeachment of the President. In refusing to produce these papers and things Richard M. Nixon, substituting his judgment as to what materials were necessary for the inquiry, interposed the powers of the Presidency against the lawful subpoenas of the House of Representatives, thereby assuming to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives. I've seen this cited a couple of times lately and I just can't help but wonder, was "papers and things" really the best wording they could come up with? Is that some kind of legalese? How hard would it have been to say "papers and other materials"?
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Data Graham posted:How hard would it have been to say "papers and other materials"? there's a supreme court case from a few years ago about whether a fish is a "tangible object" the ruling split 4-4-1
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:From a few pages back now: Also Morrison is not a legal expert and is in no way positioned to say whether or not what he heard was illegal.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I think there’s a chance he just improvs the whole thing. Since that's what he accused Adam Schiff of doing, yeah, that's exactly what he will do. SidneyIsTheKiller posted:From a few pages back now: Well he did say "I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed" which I read as "yeah it was illegal, but I'm not concerned about it"
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So the NSC attorney who placed the call on the codeword server is expected to testify: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/nsc-lawyer-who-placed-trump-zelensky-call-in-code-word-system-expected-to-testify/ One thing about that I've never really understood. My understanding is that placing calls on that server is unusual (illegal?) and also makes the information much harder to get rid of due to access issues and regs surrounding the disposal of classified information. Putting the call there has been presented mostly as an abuse of the classification system. But I have been wondering about that. If the goal was to make that information tough to access, why not just break the presidential records acts and destroy the transcripts/recordings? You're breaking the law either way. It seems to me that placing it on the secure server both draws attention to it and makes it much harder to get rid of. Could it be that this attorney did it to preserve evidence? Or is that giving them way too much credit?
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AhhYes posted:So the NSC attorney who placed the call on the codeword server is expected to testify: You're giving the Trump admin way too much credit. They literally put less thought into it than you have. Trump told them to do it, and they did it. That's it.
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AhhYes posted:So the NSC attorney who placed the call on the codeword server is expected to testify: Putting it onto the codeword system isn't illegal, just unusual as hell. The people in the administration basically thought they had found One Weird Trick™️ to effectively hide their crimes while not technically violating the records act.
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I imagine Junior is fixated on the Biden thing because he’s incredibly jealous of Hunter and his relationship with his father. I’m not even sure if Hunter and Joe are even that close, but probably better than Trump, who would turn on his son to save himself in a heartbeat.
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Shifty Pony posted:Putting it onto the codeword system isn't illegal, just unusual as hell. At least, that's the story the WH told.
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Shifty Pony posted:Putting it onto the codeword system isn't illegal, just unusual as hell. It basically works unless things get so bad they launch an impeachment inquiry
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Here's the costume tweet. Thanks discord embeds.
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Boogalo posted:Here's the costume tweet. Thanks discord embeds. Pretty sure this guy either just deleted his account or at the very least deleted all his tweets.
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skylined! posted:Jobs numbers are better than predicted. They predicted 89,000 and got 128,000, that's only going from "abysmally terrible" to "real bad"
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skylined! posted:They were dressed as trump, obama and hillary. Boogalo posted:Here's the costume tweet. Thanks discord embeds.
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