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Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard




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mjotto
Nov 8, 2017

Quavers posted:

Has PC gaming been saved yet?

Yes, using Fiber Optics!

Dynastocles
May 29, 2009

"If you'll excuse me, my dinner time is six o'clock. Only gangsters eat at 9 o'clock, after some bootlegging and a hot game of craps."

quote:

Good luck with that but remember if by some crazy event the doom merchants are correct..

...we ALL lose.


1 Corinthians 15:14-19 posted:

And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

Sanya Juutilainen
Jun 19, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

For some reason you keep misspelling Chris as Christ. Weird mistake, I tell ya.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

MostlyRandom posted:

Hi
I've been lurking here forever
I finally have something to contribute so I paid my tenner.

in the halloween video by CI not G they show the character editor in action.

I was under the impression that they rewrote Cryengine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYu9je0IQdQ&t=563s

character tool is a default cryengine module. (lumberyards character editor is EmotionFX and animation editor)

They are using the Lumberyard license to essentially use the version of cry engine they where using without licensing it from crytec. The current lumberyard is based on a later fork of cryengine.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

PARP

Sandweed fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Nov 5, 2019

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

I kept reading "Chris"

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010




BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

word

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Except that goons got refunds so its future backers that paid for OG backers to leave, thanks CIG for wasting all the money in the first place O7*$%

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010




Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Forum poopery

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 5, 2019

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Tokamak posted:

The example use-case (deferring initialisation of unneeded components of a spawning spaceship until required) is trivially solved with regular threads, but after reading more of the article I think they have much greater ambitions.

The use of fibers is emblematic of the way they have developed the engine 'on the go'. Whenever they implement a new feature, it is implemented on a per parent-object basis. This was okay when there were only a few ships and one location, so the copy/pasting was relatively minimal and trouble free. As they kept adding new content, it made implementing features a huge burden and forced them to come up with 'Object 2.0' (which provides a framework to 'macro' in features as needed). The side effect is that there is no real separation of concerns, and everything is poorly encapsulated. It has also led to a combinatorial object explosion, with everything simultaneously doing its own thing... poorly.

Untangling the big ball of poo poo would necessitate a rebuild of the engine and game assets, which isn't going to happen. They have realised that a lot of the game/object data is 'sparse', and only a small amount of it needs to be running at one time. It seems like the solution is to split up the game into logical chunks by sticking each parent-object inside its own fiber. So you end up with ship fibers, landing zone fibers, point of interest fibers, planet_surface[x, y] fibers... with the idea that you'd just freeze and unfreeze each fiber wholesale, rather then having to manage the individual components inside the chunk of poo poo.

I can see this becoming the basis for server meshing. They could extend the fiber functionality to allow fibers to be transferred between servers. So as a server reaches 100% utilisation, they could spin up a new server, transfer half of the active fibers, then transfer the relevant players over. While none of this is exactly seamless, you could see how someone might come to the conclusion that fibers are a solution to the pile of poo poo CIG has created.

CIG has made a ginormous batch spaghetti, so why not split up the spaghetti into individual containers of spaghetti, stick them in the freezer, and then thaw as needed. That way everybody gets a plate of spaghetti when they want it and when you no longer want spaghetti, you can pop it back in the freezer for the next person. It also means you can cook more spaghetti to freeze without worrying the old spaghetti. This is a very good and sane plan and we can foresee no problems with juggling a million containers of frozen spaghetti.

This is a top quality post
edit: If they really were mad enough to try sending fibers over the network to other servers, they might need to create fiber converters. Given how many cheap physical fiber converters I have seen break down in real life, I would say their software fiber converters constantly breaking would at least be thematically appropriate.

Bofast fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Nov 5, 2019

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Tane

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010





My harrowing 8-year journey to catch the horizon.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Forum poopery

Yes, and it is time for stimpire.txt.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Jim DiGriz
Apr 28, 2008

Maybe there is no room for guys like us.
Grimey Drawer

Dementropy posted:



My harrowing 8-year journey to catch the horizon.

What a beautiful Freudian slip in the title.

Armadillo Tank
Mar 26, 2010

Pixelate posted:

Crytek dumped their shiny FB-spanking lawyers for some little feisty guys. Their takes on the main lines of attack are:


Wow what? When did crytek change lawyers?

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1191736492898607104

We've come a long way baby!

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

Turbonerds. We are turbonerds. I quite like it.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Mirificus posted:

The things that are in Squadron 42 such as the Spectrum Services and the Empire -advocacy, military and diplomatic corps with all it's structures and organisations will also be in the PU

Narrator: those things are not in S42

Its insane to imagine how much these people give CIG the benefit of the doubt. Yep s42 has loving diplomacy mechanics, totally, they're just not in the PU and they've never been demo'd because..... ????

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Speaking of, I'm still waiting for my "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee" badge. To whom do I submit to for the badge?

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Dementropy posted:



My harrowing 8-year journey to catch the horizon.

So after some discussion with himself he decide it was a good idea to create this sub.

I wonder if that voice ever mentions anything else like "it's ok to eat the skin of disbelievers!"

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

MedicineHut posted:

Turbonerds. We are turbonerds. I quite like it.

We're a goddamn beacon of sanity. Their weird justifications that we're somehow bitter about the way the game is turning out tends to pre-suppose that there is a defined end-state for this thing, and there's absolutely no-way that some of us are actual professionals that would love someone to fix the latency problems across AWS.

Armadillo Tank posted:

Wow what? When did crytek change lawyers?

Around May, I believe. There was some noise when Skaddens missed a filing, and it turns out that they were in the process of peacing out and being replaced by an American IP Lawyer. He took over and resolved the motion to bond, putting everything back on track for Trial next year.


Colostomy Bag posted:

Yes, and it is time for stimpire.txt.

In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Armadillo Tank posted:

Wow what? When did crytek change lawyers?

Either Crytek realized they were gonna be REALLY REALLY expensive or it wasn't going in the direction they wanted.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

monkeytek posted:

Either Crytek realized they were gonna be REALLY REALLY expensive or it wasn't going in the direction they wanted.

Skadden never seemed to really get their teeth into it, and they actually looked fairly bad after the initial filing, but these new guys appear to have some fight in them.

I hope they're making sure that, y'know, CiG _actually moved to Lumberyard_.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





I mean, full-stop I'm definitely a turbonerd.

But I'm a fun turbonerd, who once owned a motorcycle.

mjotto
Nov 8, 2017

monkeytek posted:

Speaking of, I'm still waiting for my "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee" badge. To whom do I submit to for the badge?

Jane in Accounting has been mentioned before

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
reminder that those Do Nothing Elites at Frontier just released another failure of a game

this marks Frontier's fourth major release (not including expansion packs) in five years (seven if you count the start of Elite Dangerous' Kickstarter)

maybe they should know themselves some game development

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Beet Wagon posted:

I mean, full-stop I'm definitely a turbonerd.

But I'm a fun turbonerd, who once owned a motorcycle.
nerds are like motorcycles, they are fun until you try to do something cool and instead end up crashing in a spectacular fashion

Sanya Juutilainen
Jun 19, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

TheAgent posted:

reminder that those Do Nothing Elites at Frontier just released another failure of a game

this marks Frontier's fourth major release (not including expansion packs) in five years (seven if you count the start of Elite Dangerous' Kickstarter)

maybe they should know themselves some game development

So far 400 positive to 50 negative ratings, solid (and the negative ratings are mostly crashes and then some guy that complains that 18 minutes per year is too fast for them to bond with animals, wut).

Sanya Juutilainen fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Nov 5, 2019

Dynastocles
May 29, 2009

"If you'll excuse me, my dinner time is six o'clock. Only gangsters eat at 9 o'clock, after some bootlegging and a hot game of craps."

quote:

Stimpire.txt

"Punch them to a pulp, against their will" - pure poetry.

Every time I read this I discover something new.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
lol if you actually read the Stimpire.txt

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

TheAgent posted:

reminder that those Do Nothing Elites at Frontier just released another failure of a game

this marks Frontier's fourth major release (not including expansion packs) in five years (seven if you count the start of Elite Dangerous' Kickstarter)

maybe they should know themselves some game development

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

So far 400 positive to 50 negative ratings, solid (and the negative ratings are mostly crashes and then some guy that complains that 18 minutes per year is too fast for them to bond with animals, wut).
https://opencritic.com/game/7900/planet-zoo

Top Critic Average 83%
Critics Recommend 86%


How long until :trustme: says Star Citizen will have tigers and lions too? :v:

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

Also OUYA; a huge crowdfund success

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

So far 400 positive to 50 negative ratings, solid (and the negative ratings are mostly crashes and then some guy that complains that 18 minutes per year is too fast for them to bond with animals, wut).

I'm guessing the future president of Virtual Furries of America

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monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Quavers posted:

https://opencritic.com/game/7900/planet-zoo

Top Critic Average 83%
Critics Recommend 86%


How long until :trustme: says Star Citizen will have tigers and lions too? :v:

They will definitely have their poo poo for some strange mini-game.

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