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mcvey posted:Hes a born again grifter chud feels really loving weird living in the state he's setting his grift up in, shits gonna dumb as hell and I can't wait.
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Alan Smithee posted:Where does Kanye stand on the maga thing these days could not possibly care less also his album sucks
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Nov 6, 2019 17:06
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Mania Kanye is exactly what protestant evangelicals deserve and I pray to God that all the idiot failsons and grifters are bringing him into their confidence about their many, many crimes and inhuman sociopath beliefs because the album where he addresses it all is gonna be incredible
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gonna lol if Kanye starting a cult that spreads the absurd prices of Jackson hole outside of Jackson hole causes wyomings latent racism to flair up and get national attention
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the ur-don jr story is when his dad told an interviewer that he was worried about naming his son don jr, bc if the son wound up being a dumbass it would tarnish his name
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Me, 6 months from now: "You know I never really had any interest in his stuff before but I definitely plan on buying The Failwell Machine when it drops"
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I don't really care if Kanye wants to go through a cliché evangelical-flavored midlife dad crisis but it was kind of gross how immediately all-in dumbshit American Christians went on Kanye because he's a Trump fan and made an extremely low effort Christian album. Even if you liked the album maybe take a bit of a wait and see approach on the guy who was very recently rapping about having his t-shirts ruined by the bleach on some girls butthole?
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counterpoint: doneld jerm turmp
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I don't really care if Kanye wants to go through a cliché evangelical-flavored midlife dad crisis but it was kind of gross how immediately all-in dumbshit American Christians went on Kanye because he's a Trump fan and made an extremely low effort Christian album. Even if you liked the album maybe take a bit of a wait and see approach on the guy who was very recently rapping about having his t-shirts ruined by the bleach on some girls butthole? Typically Christians are really stupid people who just want to be normal
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VROOM VROOM posted:These kids are the best a good left protest chant. loving finally
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Someone in the Trump thread nailed it when they said American Christians spend all their Sundays preaching about being "in the world, not of it" and how above and at war they are with the secular world but whenever someone like Trump or Kanye makes the laziest gesture towards them they instantly turn into the biggest starfuckers around. At least Kanye is making the minimal effort at learning the vocab needed to be Joel Osteen approved. Trump is constantly tipping his hand that he doesn't give a poo poo at all about Jesus and the Bible and is always making them clean up his mess so they can still say he's a good Christian man.
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Nov 6, 2019 18:17
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at least half of the songs on that album were obviously about his wife's rear end a month ago before he redid the entire thing in a manic episode. i dont think any of the conservatives welcoming him pay close enough attention to care really
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Nov 6, 2019 18:20
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Evangelical Christians have long ago fell into worshiping at the altar of materialism so its pretty much business as usual. Trump is merely their golden calf. Also, as chapo pointed out, the right has long held all the cards in regards to political power but have been constantly frustrated that they don't completely control the culture of the nation, so any apparent defection to their culture (like Kanye) is a Big Fuckin Deal to them. Even if everyone else knows its just Kanye going through one of his phases, they want to believe otherwise because that means that maybe they are winning the culture war for once.
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It makes more sense when you remember how revered he was by Liberals in the Obama era, and how committed people were into building an unimpeachable identity for Kanye. Like you remember the amount of pushback that would happen in the pop-culture discourse anytime anything remotely kanye-skeptical was uttered. Pitchfork had at least 3 articles essentially using respect for kanye as a litmus test. Anyway if you remember that then accepting Kanye is a "own the libs" button almost as enticing as Dondald Trump.
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It's like if chud culture suddenly seized control of parks and rec or something. That's the kind of lib-owning winfall they usually only dream about.
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/econbrkfst/status/1191566163454521344 So what I'm gathering here is that Ngo should be called a fat little porker at every opportunity
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:It makes more sense when you remember how revered he was by Liberals in the Obama era, and how committed people were into building an unimpeachable identity for Kanye. Like you remember the amount of pushback that would happen in the pop-culture discourse anytime anything remotely kanye-skeptical was uttered. Pitchfork had at least 3 articles essentially using respect for kanye as a litmus test. He's still revered! It'd take a few albums as bad as this recent one to actually hurt his career. Other than Trump I cant think of any other conservative celebrities who carry this much interest.
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:It's like if chud culture suddenly seized control of parks and rec or something. That's the kind of lib-owning winfall they usually only dream about. it makes sense but at the same time he was making incredible albums in the Obama era and so far in his MAGA moment he's made a 27 minute long album that feels like it's an hour of boredom. Farm Frenzy posted:He's still revered! It'd take a few albums as bad as this recent one to actually hurt his career. Other than Trump I cant think of any other conservative celebrities who carry this much interest. Yeah, in relative terms getting any sort of Kanye is understandably exciting when the next step down is like....Kevin Sorbo and Jon Voight lmfao. If I have to choose I'm a James Woods guy myself. John Carpenters Vampires is underrated.
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so Kanye, will it be Islam or Gnosticism next?
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It's just extremely funny to me because he seems to be going through the exact same thing my dad went through. Had 3(+) kids and realized he's insecure about what sort of moral code to install in them (I was the oldest and I probably did something bad that spooked him) so he freaks and outsources the whole thing to a lame and insidiously right wing "non denominational bible based" church and Promise Keepers style poo poo. It took me a looooooooooong time to realize that a lot of my personal problems and problems in my adult relationship with my parents stemmed from the church being unhealthy (if not downright abusive in ways) for all of us. And in fact it took even longer for me to realize it's not really enough to just reject it and move on, but you've also got to deal with lasting effects of growing up like that.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:so Kanye, will it be Islam or Gnosticism next? Islam baby
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Scorpion: Carry me across the river, Right Wing Christian Fox Right Wing Christian Fox: What about the times you said GWB doesn't care about black Katrina victims on live TV or rapped about Reagan trying to genocide black people with the AIDs virus or made an entire song about wishing you could date the porn star you're jacking it to. Scorpion: don't worry about it, I'm born again ya'll….uhhh…..stop having premarital sex, Bon Iver! RWCF: alright, climb on my head
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Dr. Killjoy posted:so Kanye, will it be Islam or Gnosticism next? someone's gonna teach him about roko's basilisk
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Typically Christians are really stupid people who just want to be normal Evangelical Christianity, particularly the Born Again strain, is big into redemption stories. The idea that a religious conversion can make someone do an immediate 180 is part of most if not all denominations of Christianity (see: Paul's conversion), but it's really the defining feature with Born Again folks. It's been a profitable grift for as long as grifting credulous Christians has been a thing. That Trump could suddenly become a devout and pious Christian is literally exactly what they both want to hear and expect to happen.
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Azathoth posted:Evangelical Christianity, particularly the Born Again strain, is big into redemption stories. The idea that a religious conversion can make someone do an immediate 180 is part of most if not all denominations of Christianity (see: Paul's conversion), but it's really the defining feature with Born Again folks. Also they're even worse at being suspicious of things they find validating than the rest of society (which is loving bad at it to begin with).
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The ur-texts for american protestantism will always be chick tracts, especially those where an awful irredeemable person finds salvation just by hollering at the point of death that he accepts jesus christ as his lord and savior
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The aspect I find most confusing about it is that Trump has never claimed to have a road-to-Damascus moment, and as far as I can tell, nobody's ever tried to reveal one or even make one up. His evangelical supporters just accept him at his word that he's a Christian who feels "very strongly" about it despite never bringing it up outside times where he's being quizzed about it, and even then he's obviously faking his way through it.
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Nov 6, 2019 19:45
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Typically Christians are really stupid people who just want to be normal Having been indoctrinated with christian bullshit as a kid I think the acceptance issue is more that they want "normal" to be exactly like them. That would explain why they're always trying to convert heathens and why they're so hung up on writing laws that force everyone to conform to their ideals.
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The Chairman posted:The aspect I find most confusing about it is that Trump has never claimed to have a road-to-Damascus moment, and as far as I can tell, nobody's ever tried to reveal one or even make one up. His evangelical supporters just accept him at his word that he's a Christian who feels "very strongly" about it despite never bringing it up outside times where he's being quizzed about it, and even then he's obviously faking his way through it. if i remember the various articles right. alot of them know he hates/doesnt care about them but they view him as a "respite" from the evils of progressive politics and poo poo before the end comes. so basicaly "he hates the people i dont like and he could rape my daughter and kill my wife in front of me but as long as he made "them" suffer, id vote for him".
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Dapper_Swindler posted:if i remember the various articles right. alot of them know he hates/doesnt care about them but they view him as a "respite" from the evils of progressive politics and poo poo before the end comes. so basicaly "he hates the people i dont like and he could rape my daughter and kill my wife in front of me but as long as he made "them" suffer, id vote for him". from what I’ve seen the end coming has kind of lost favor as the focus instead just proclaiming the next republican president as their version of the pope. weird we have wrapped around to medieval church politics
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Trump is also delivering what they really want - a huge pile of right wing judges with lifetime appointments. They'll overlook anything in exchange for those judges.
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hahahaha people signing up for a neo fascist forum with their school email address
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The Chairman posted:The aspect I find most confusing about it is that Trump has never claimed to have a road-to-Damascus moment, and as far as I can tell, nobody's ever tried to reveal one or even make one up. His evangelical supporters just accept him at his word that he's a Christian who feels "very strongly" about it despite never bringing it up outside times where he's being quizzed about it, and even then he's obviously faking his way through it. They tried to gin one up a while back with one of those megachurch pastors (might have been Falwell's kid, but I could have sworn it was someone else) who was talking a lot about how he'd had a whole bunch of private conversations with Trump and how that led to his conversion, but that was quietly dropped after he kept saying poo poo like "two Corinthians" and saying that he never asked for forgiveness because he didn't need it in favor of having Pence vouch for his evangelical cred, since Trump couldn't be bothered to learn the lingo of the grift (which is a huge part of the Born Again life) and was giving the game away. Pope Guilty posted:Also they're even worse at being suspicious of things they find validating than the rest of society (which is loving bad at it to begin with). Yeah, it's super taboo in most denominations to question whether someone is really a Christian if they say that they are, which is just perfect for scam artists.
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Azathoth posted:They tried to gin one up a while back with one of those megachurch pastors (might have been Falwell's kid, but I could have sworn it was someone else) who was talking a lot about how he'd had a whole bunch of private conversations with Trump and how that led to his conversion, but that was quietly dropped after he kept saying poo poo like "two Corinthians" and saying that he never asked for forgiveness because he didn't need it in favor of having Pence vouch for his evangelical cred, since Trump couldn't be bothered to learn the lingo of the grift (which is a huge part of the Born Again life) and was giving the game away. it's funny because they keep trying to orchestrate these things and then Trump just turns it into a "road to Trump" event, like when he made a bunch of evangelical leaders endorse him by shaking hands and smiling with him in front of his wall of softcore porn magazines he was in he doesn't even pretend, he's never atoned and will never apologize for anything, and anybody who ever suggests he has done something bad will be immediately destroyed, so the whole mammon grift just has to pretend this is all the case harder and harder every day
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