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Anyone who is mid career or deeper should not be considering a switch from a good, stable position to a different company for less than a 20% raise. And that's before we get into commute and salary vs hourly.
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I took a 10% cut to get away from a monster of a boss and a poo poo work environment. That was worth it from a mental health perspective but that's the only time I would consider it. Cut my "commute" in half too, from 10 minutes to 5 
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Tibalt posted:The contract is 3 to 5 years, and at least part of the team would become permanent.
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I was in a similar situation a few years ago when I switched jobs. My old job was about 80% remote and even when I had to go in it was only for a few hours, I basically never spent a full 9-5 day in the office. My current job is eight hours in the office M-F, zero WFH allowed, and a 45 minute commute each way. I made the switch though because in addition to it being way better for my career, it was a 40% salary increase. It was just too much additional money to walk away from even if my QoL went down. I absolutely would not have made the same decision for only 10% more.
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Hourly vs Salary isn't necessarily a bad thing though. In general I prefer salary but they are some big perks (usually no "crunch", frequently more amenable bosses about flex schedules) to make it a wash. Everyone's mileage varies though. Based on what you put unless you are really unhappy/stuck where you are I don't think I'd make that move for under 20%.
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Antioch posted:I took a 10% cut to get away from a monster of a boss and a poo poo work environment. That was worth it from a mental health perspective but that's the only time I would consider it. Sounds like it wasn't a good position. If a place makes you miserable then taking a pay cut might be appropriate. But if not then don't leave for greener grass unless they are making it worth the gamble that the next place won't.
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We just had a team meeting basically because one of the senior doctors emailed the junior doctors and didn't start with a "dear all" and was a bit abrupt. So much pearl-clutching going on. Delicious
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Met a buddy / former coworker today, thinking about accelerating our “leave big firms, start our own boutique” plan. It’s really scary but exciting.
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Keetron posted:https://archive.is/uULD2
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Here's some SoftBank nonsense collected from other threads, and I strongly encourage you to view the 30-year vision at the bottom link (esp if you've ever had to make any strategy-adjacent deck): https://twitter.com/zebulgar/status/1192198379859636225 Guinness posted:Re: softbank silliness, how about this slide deck about their 30 year vision. It's really something.
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My bootlicking, treat-everyone-below-him-as-a-child, biggest idiot I've ever met boss got fired today. I wish I could have been there to see it. Apparently, his new boss told him he was either incompetent or malevolent and either was a deal-breaker. (he's both) Then he got perp-walked out. Now it's time to start rebuilding my team that he ran into the ground.
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That's awesome Dik Hz. Tales of corporate karma always make me smile  Does anyone have any suggestions for a gift for an outgoing managing director of a software start-up? He's leaving for personal reasons, and we'd like to give him something nice as a thank you. He doesn't drink so anything alcoholic is out.
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bee posted:That's awesome Dik Hz. Tales of corporate karma always make me smile
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Trabant posted:Here's some SoftBank nonsense collected from other threads, and I strongly encourage you to view the 30-year vision at the bottom link (esp if you've ever had to make any strategy-adjacent deck): Holy poo poo, that slide deck is some real 
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Yawgmoth posted:Oh this is the sequel I never knew I wanted. Bless you kind goon. This is pro click. The Pete story is great.
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I'm going to pitch universal human happiness 300 years in the future in my next project meeting.
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Volmarias posted:I expect that the answer is no, nice as it would be. Unless your employer decides to be exceptionally generous about this, your employment end date stopped the clock for that for good. Update: it jumped to 100% vested, idk if they mean it or if there is a quarterly audit that's gonna back it out. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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The Sean posted:I got a lovely email from a director of another division yesterday. What was the response???
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Trabant posted:Here's some SoftBank nonsense collected from other threads, and I strongly encourage you to view the 30-year vision at the bottom link (esp if you've ever had to make any strategy-adjacent deck): I think the part I like most is "aim to achieve". It's like they're a kid that's been caught doing something wrong and they're promising to TRY to not do it again.
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"we intend to make money instead of losing it at some point in the future" such a bold vision, give that man a raise etc
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Shugojin posted:"we intend to make money instead of losing it at some point in the future" 
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Tomfoolery posted:SoftBank value #4: think till our brains crush Im the CEO that puts telepathy in to a corporate powerpoint.
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Shugojin posted:"we intend to make money instead of losing it at some point in the future" The Silicon Valley thread.
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TFW you spot an error in finance’s spreadsheet and realise there is a large hole in your P&L that nobody spotted and you now have one month to fix.
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I'm very bored at my current job... like pulled stuff in my office and cleaned underneath it bored. While I'm looking for something new nothing worthwhile has come up. That said a sales job just came open at my current company and Im really tempted to take it. How much would I hate myself if I did given I've pretty much always just run warehouses
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Go and hang around with your best 3 sales people and think very carefully if you could have the same personality as one of them.
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doing a stint in sales will make you a better warehouse ops guy so i say go give it a shot
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So my official job role is more of data analysis but in the recent months I’ve been with this company I’ve also done sales support, operations, and a few other roles. Now I’m having to drive out to our warehouse in bum gently caress nowhere and make sure they get product out the door because they’re a month behind on shipping orders out and clients are getting pissed. I don’t know why I was chosen for this because I have no background in warehouse operations but apparently they literally need somebody out there that will tell people “load this pallet into that truck and load this pallet next” Then just now, after having been there all week, I find out that a random VP wants to have a 5 PM meeting tomorrow to talk about everything. I have never wanted to decline a meeting so badly.
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Sales is amazing and I would recommend everyone does a stint there. When it goes well it’s the best thing ever, when it goes badly it’s shattering, but one lesson it teaches is that you need to lose your ego. You cannot sell if you want to be the important person, because the customer is by definition more important than you are.
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Sales is fun, you should try sales. Worst case scenario you fail and have to go back to warehouse ops with a new appreciate for how the other half live. Worser case scenario you like it and end up spending a lifetime in meaningless sales roles as a leech on society, overpromising things you’ll never actually deliver because they only thing you care about is how big a commission you get. Why yes I have been meeting with *big ERP company* salespeople lately, why do you ask. Don’t worry, all our line of products is fully integrated and we will definitely do all the things on our product roadmap in the stated timelines.
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I mean, worst case scenario is ending up with a substance addiction after alienating your family chasing the dopamine rush that is "the big one". I feel like that happens to a good chunk of sales guys. That said, people who have gone through the sales ringer and moved on to something else tend to be way better at their new jobs because of that experience.
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Lockback posted:I mean, worst case scenario is ending up with a substance addiction after alienating your family chasing the dopamine rush that is "the big one". I feel like that happens to a good chunk of sales guys. Oh poo poo yeah that’s definitely a good one. “You have kids?” “Yeah I see them sometimes when I fly back home. Want to go to the strip club tonight?”
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So regional engineering manager got made redundant a month or so ago. A high up role, looking after around 20 plants over 3 countries for a gigantic multinational. So hes decided he wants a bit of a change of pace, so he’s got himself a forklift licence and has been applying for a bunch of warehouse/works loaders positions. His resume is a thing of beauty. No actual lies, but it’s full of things like, 10+ years working in an operations site, knowledge of stock keeping requirements, participation on OHS committees etc etc. Seeing him in full hi vis outfit is great, and it looks like he’s already got himself a job, after putting down one of his process engineers as a reference.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:big lol at the concept of a forklift license Someone's never met Staplerfahrer Klaus!
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