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Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Enjoy posted:

Russian bots posting Marxist gibberish in Reddit threads FTW

Could you even tell the difference?

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Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Inceltown posted:

Could you even tell the difference?

yeah it's not super well-done

someone itt thought it was a simple markov bot immediately

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

That was more a comment on the quality of reddit posts than on the AI.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Peanut Butler posted:

yeah it's not super well-done

someone itt thought it was a simple markov bot immediately

actually I wrote it,

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That's totally a wrecker AI post anyway. It basically says the working class is vulnerable to reaction (true) and the solution is for communists to do nothing (lol)

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Remember kids: If you're going to go :killdozer: you need to go full :killdozer:

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1191520814220402688

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Inceltown posted:

If you don't see how poo poo posts about polarising topics could be useful to fire up electorates to help vote in a Trump-like then you're in for a shock.

There is definitely a lot more to getting a Trump than this, like the constant economic and social pressures years of treating citizens like poo poo, but it's never been just one thing.

even the top of the line bots are on the level of "schizophrenic rambling". posting gibberish isnt going to sway a significant number of people one way or the other

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

even the top of the line bots are on the level of "schizophrenic rambling". posting gibberish isnt going to sway a significant number of people one way or the other

Counterpoint

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He's done a fantastic job. He's done a fantastic job. And we're sending a signal by doing that to the rest of the country, to the rest of the world. That the Republican Party, you know what we stand for, but you see what's happening with the Democrats. They have gone crazy. [Audience shouts "Boo"] The do-nothing Democrats and they're not getting it done under.

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

even the top of the line bots are on the level of "schizophrenic rambling". posting gibberish isnt going to sway a significant number of people one way or the other

like 50% of the internet is on the level of schizophrenic rambling so they're on the right track

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/OBQDC/status/1192082457262059520

"stalin didn't kill enough people"

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



https://twitter.com/johnmilbank3/status/1192065387933917184?s=21

this dude is an “intellectual” who associates with a bunch of former Marxists who are now tradcath/Anglican (lol) anti-Liberal reactionaries on the spectrum from full monarchist to weird Blue Labourite

I put this in here cus milbank and his protege, Adrian Pabst, represent a pretty dangerous intellectual trend of appropriating Marxist language, perspectives, and frustrations and then using nutty antimodern illiberal ideologies to address the same problems identified by actual Marxist humanists. it’s interesting but disturbing, and they’ll definitely all be there when I present my paper on how neoliberal models of mutual aid are actually just capitalist entryism used to suppress opposition to the Washington Consensus and they will likely agree with the premise but attack the specific Marxist content of my arguments

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

It's a good thing loveless marriages compelled by faith don't affect children negatively.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

lol @ defending feudal era family relations. parents shouldn’t even be the primary people raising their own children after a few years

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

THS posted:

lol @ defending feudal era family relations. parents shouldn’t even be the primary people raising their own children after a few years

Pre-capitalist family relations did have other family members and even other people from the community raising or helping raise children though?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I don't think they're entirely wrong about the potential value of precapitalist social structures in informing the content and form of theoretical post-capitalist social structures but they're insane in that they think the only alternative to neoliberal nihilism is reimposing anachronistic social models like the church hierarchy or rigidly gendered family units or whatever

and as plutonis correctly pointed out, generally, most of their beliefs about the nature of pre-industrial family life are already incorrect and predicated on a caricaturized hagiography that doesn't acknowledge the collective parts of rural life in most of the world before the early modern era. that being said Milbank/Pabst et al absolutely do understand that and it's part of why they think we should just go back to parish based governance where you have childcare options through neighbors and the church, because they can't recognize any alternative structure that provides those same benefits without the insane imposition of outdated religious values on others

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/10/bernie-sanders-age-health-old-electability

So which one of you is Benjamin Fong?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
happy great october socialist revolution day

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/communistsusa/status/1191822474809397254

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Frog Act posted:

https://twitter.com/johnmilbank3/status/1192065387933917184?s=21

this dude is an “intellectual” who associates with a bunch of former Marxists who are now tradcath/Anglican (lol) anti-Liberal reactionaries on the spectrum from full monarchist to weird Blue Labourite

I put this in here cus milbank and his protege, Adrian Pabst, represent a pretty dangerous intellectual trend of appropriating Marxist language, perspectives, and frustrations and then using nutty antimodern illiberal ideologies to address the same problems identified by actual Marxist humanists. it’s interesting but disturbing, and they’ll definitely all be there when I present my paper on how neoliberal models of mutual aid are actually just capitalist entryism used to suppress opposition to the Washington Consensus and they will likely agree with the premise but attack the specific Marxist content of my arguments

that's a good premise for a paper. don't worry, i will be in the audience waiting for them to attack the marxist content, but then ask questions that set you up to do owns on them. kind of like an 'Alley-oop' (i hope this makes sense i don't actually know anything about basketball)


edit:

Frog Act posted:

I don't think they're entirely wrong about the potential value of precapitalist social structures in informing the content and form of theoretical post-capitalist social structures but they're insane in that they think the only alternative to neoliberal nihilism is reimposing anachronistic social models like the church hierarchy or rigidly gendered family units or whatever

and as plutonis correctly pointed out, generally, most of their beliefs about the nature of pre-industrial family life are already incorrect and predicated on a caricaturized hagiography that doesn't acknowledge the collective parts of rural life in most of the world before the early modern era. that being said Milbank/Pabst et al absolutely do understand that and it's part of why they think we should just go back to parish based governance where you have childcare options through neighbors and the church, because they can't recognize any alternative structure that provides those same benefits without the insane imposition of outdated religious values on others

reaching back towards tradtional, religious sociality in response to neoliberalism is ironic, because neoliberalism has been coupled, from the beginning, with right-wing traditionalist morality

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
They're not wrong that society today is more alienated and isolated even on immediate family level relations, but going "back" to feudal conceptions, even were there more family bonds and stronger relations isn't far enough, we want the whole negation of the negation and a return to our full human capacities to socialize and collaborate to create our material lives and exercise real power, so trads that appropriate Marxist language are just the worst kinds of dead ends, it's a complete non starter

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/EternalDago/status/1192440232068702208

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/mosagrey/status/1192431149458632706?s=19

Whew

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
:hai:

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

We should just come up with a new name for socialist police, especially since western countries already need to effectively tear down and rebuild it's law enforcement structure. Given how fundamentally alien the new organization(s) will be from what we know as cops, it would make things whole lot easier just to call them something different.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
we have a name for them and its Worker

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Citizen Militia

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Coprade

3
Aug 26, 2006

The Magic Number


College Slice
Stasi

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

StashAugustine posted:

Citizen Militia

Someone's been playing disco elysium

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames
all cops should be elderly women armed with wooden spoons

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Blue Cheka-mark

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Goast posted:

all cops should be elderly women armed with wooden spoons

All Cops Are Boomers

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

Blue Cheka-mark

lmao

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

StashAugustine posted:

Citizen Militia

in yugosliavia we had a "militia" yeah.

my grandpa was a lieutenant in it for ~30 years after the war ended. he was doing the columbo routine before columbo was even a thing lol. he'd go everywhere without his weapon and if lovely people gave him trouble he just said "well, we can go to jail now, or you can kill me and be in some real loving trouble because everyone at the station knows where i am" and they just gave up lol

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy


rpg avenue

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Truga posted:

in yugosliavia we had a "militia" yeah.

my grandpa was a lieutenant in it for ~30 years after the war ended. he was doing the columbo routine before columbo was even a thing lol. he'd go everywhere without his weapon and if lovely people gave him trouble he just said "well, we can go to jail now, or you can kill me and be in some real loving trouble because everyone at the station knows where i am" and they just gave up lol

Lol that's cool as hell

Solid Poopsnake
Mar 27, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Fong wouldn't be caught dead here. He hates online and hates fun because he's a liberal robot driving relentlessly towards a lanyard career.

Solid Poopsnake
Mar 27, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
Fen Bong

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THS
Sep 15, 2017

communist cops in a stable post-scarcity world will mostly have to deal with stuff like mental breakdowns and de-escalations, and would have to be trained in psychology and EMT stuff with a few specialized armed units for when the Joker takes the premier hostage or whatever

so my proposition is to call the organization Psi Corps

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